Half Points in 2.0? Do you round up or down

By eagletsi111, in X-Wing Rules Questions

So a Tie fighter has 3 hull, half points is 1.5, when do you score the half point bonus. Is it when you have done 2 hits or 1?

Thanks,

6 minutes ago, eagletsi111 said:

So a Tie fighter has 3 hull, half points is 1.5, when do you score the half point bonus. Is it when you have done 2 hits or 1?

Thanks,

Down in the case of an odd number of health; you need to do 2 danage to a Tie fighter.

Edited by Innese

That's what I thought, But others were arguing with me about it. where does it state that?

1 hour ago, Innese said:

Down in the case of an odd number of health; you need to do 2 danage to a Tie fighter.

Down would mean you only need to do 1 damage, 1.5 rounded down is 1

8 minutes ago, eagletsi111 said:

Down would mean you only need to do 1 damage, 1.5 rounded down is 1

Down when rounding for the health remaining needed to count as half. As in a TIE fighter needs to have 1 remaining.

If a ship has 3 health, or 5, or 7, have I done more half at 1, 2, or 3 damage? No I’ve done at least half (But not enough ti destroy) at 2, 3, and 4.

1 hour ago, eagletsi111 said:

That's what I thought, But others were arguing with me about it. where does it state that?

Nowhere, yet.

The 2e tourney rules have not been released yet.

App says "Threshold" 2 health for a tie. It's 4 health for a defender and gunboat.

So...if you are *at* health is that threshold? Do you give up half points? Or below 2 health? Vague reference is vague.

what about mov points? round up or down? is a half point academy at 23 points worth 11 mov or 12 mov?

To answer all of your questions: they just fixed the squad builder.

Steps:

1 - Generate a squad

2 - Go to share, PDF

Next to each ship, you see:

- half points (rounded up)

- threshold (in health, so a combination of hull and shields)

They have not changed the version of the squad builder (still 1.0.3), but that change is recent (they had calculation errors before and the half points and threshold only appeared if you had at least one upgrade).

Edited by dotswarlock
3 hours ago, eagletsi111 said:

So a Tie fighter has 3 hull, half points is 1.5, when do you score the half point bonus. Is it when you have done 2 hits or 1?

Thanks,

Why is any rounding required?

Is 2 health out of 3 health more or =/less than half? its more so you don't get the half points.

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Fel has 3 health native.

He has 1 damage card on him.

His health is now at 2.

Is that at, above, or below the 2 health threshold?

31 minutes ago, viedit said:

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Fel has 3 health native.

He has 1 damage card on him.

His health is now at 2.

Is that at, above, or below the 2 health threshold?

Based on the V1 tournament rules (since V2 is not there), I believe the proper way to read it: "Once Soontir Fel has suffered at least 2 health damage".

In V1, you would get half points if you did half or more damage.

is this even a rule in 2.0? we have no tournament rules yet

43 minutes ago, Vineheart01 said:

is this even a rule in 2.0? we have no tournament rules yet

That is correct; we do not have tournament rules for 2.0 just yet. All we have are interviews where the developpers said that half points were now for each ship (can't find the link at the moment, sorry) and the fact the squad builder shows notions of half points and threshold for every ship.

So it's by no means confirmed, but based on former V1 rules and current indications, it would be reasonnable and consistent. That's the best we can do at the moment.

3 hours ago, viedit said:

App says "Threshold" 2 health for a tie. It's 4 health for a defender and gunboat.

Where in the app is this?

You only round the actual half points. You don't round at all to determine whether you get the half points.

A TIE has 3 health. Half of that is 1.5. So that is the minimum to receive half points. Is 1 damage more or less than 1.5? Less, so no half points. Is 2 more or less than 1.5? More, so yes half points.

Dont over think it. To get half points you have to do at LEAST half damage, no rounding.

How many points you receine on that half, THAT is where you need to round.

6 minutes ago, sharrrp said:

How many points you receive on that half, THAT is where you need to round.

so do you round up or down? I think it's down but I'm not positive.

44 minutes ago, papy72 said:

Where in the app is this?

You have to go to the "Share" function after you save a list. There is an option to create a PDF. It will be in there.

In terms of POINTS SCORED , you round down. A ship that's normally worth 41 points would be worth 20 points if you scored half damage on it.

In terms of DAMAGE DEALT , you don't round: you simply have to calculate whether or not half of their total health is missing. For a ship that has (for example) 5 hull and 2 shields, you would need to deal a total of 4 damage to drop them below half. In this case, their damage threshold would be listed as 4... you have to deal 4 damage (and have that damage stick around) to qualify for half points. Note that a ship with regen-like abilities (R2 Astromechs restore shields, R5 can repair your hull, etc) can actually lift a ship back above the threshold, given the right situations.

8 hours ago, emeraldbeacon said:

In terms of POINTS SCORED , you round down. A ship that's normally worth 41 points would be worth 20 points if you scored half damage on it.

Based on what the app is currently showing, it appears that it would be rounded up to 21. See the Rho Squadron Pilot in previous posts where half points of 37 is shown to be 19.

So from the app.

Do you have to beat the threshold, or equal it.

If a ship has threshold of 2.

Have to get it to 2

or have to get to 1.

And is threshold health remaining or damage done.

We don't know.

We won't know until the tourney rules are released.