##unvote

Oh - missed it in my post.

##vote Vis

I'd really rather vote LTD, but I think that we are better off taking out one of our restricted suspicion pool of 2 for SK rather than trying to find the scum in the pool of 3.

@Onidsen why would LTD vote on the only other scum in group one?

I can see how easy it would look for me to be the SK, but I'm not it unfortunately (tho I had a sick backstory hoping I'd be it, was heavily disappointed on how it turned out...)

7 minutes ago, Onidsen said:

Neither LTD o  r Matt makes sense as a SK, unless they de  liberately were not using their kill -  which would definitely a m  istake, but there  's an outside possibility. Still, I think that we should focus on LP or on Vis as the SK.

This forgets the (slim) possibility of there having been 2 attempts on N1, unless Doc only protects against one attempt?

##unvote oni

##vote vis

if oni was role blocked he could not have performed a kill in my mind. so i think he is town (with only one mafia left)

if LP is the medic then i think LTD is scum

if LTD is medic (claims otherwise) then i think LP is scum.

@Matt3412 - It's a good question. But there is only one person in group one who is guaranteed not scum, and that's Lord Preyer (they survived a kill), and they are the only one that didn't vote on Nippy.

Actually, maybe not. Now that we have confirmed the existence of a SK, what if it wasn't a SK kill that was blocked D1, but the scum kill? In this scenario, LP is scum but was targeted by the SK and saved by the doc? That means that Jabbawookie again wouldn't have used the vig kill.

Then we have a SK that we have no idea about - pool of 4 - and a pool of the same 4 for scum.

But even still - LP professed a desire to burn down Nippy too. Everybody in that chat was against Nippy. So whoever is the scum, they either voted on him or acted like they were going to. So, the last scum bussed their partner. If Nippy was already a lost cause, then voting (even hammering!) on him is the obvious thing for a scum teammate to do, in order to get town cred.

@Visovics - that's true, we don't know the answer to that.

@clontroper5 - If a player is protected by the Medic, but is attacked by the scum and a Serial Killer (or the scum and a Vigilante), does the Medic protect against both attacks or just one?

##unvote

I am still suspicious, but I don't want to move too fast. With only 4 votes to hammer, we could easily get a hammer before important discussion has finished playing out. I want to hear from @Caldias and his scans before we pull the trigger on anything. Frankly, I think that now might be the best time for the medic to come forward, although I'll leave that to their discretion.

Actually, now might be a decent time for a mass roleclaim.

##vote LTD

I think he's our SK, he and Gnips were at each other in the group, and didn't seem throughout the game to have any ties

and then his thinking that I looked suspicious because I hammered Gnips, like come on, if the guy is clearly scum, obviously the best is to stand aside amirite?

I’m not the scum - I’ve been on or started three scum lynch trains.

SK has to be Vis or LP as Onidsen says.

If someone is attacked twice the medic would be overpowered

role wise this is what i have been going off,

Cladias; sergeant town

podracer; Rolebloker town

matt;

well im gonna restart;

role wise this is what i have been going off,

Cladias; sergeant town

podracer; Roleblocker town

matt; paranoid marine(missed) crewman N2 town

LTD; claims not medic unknown

LP; attacked no claim unknown (most likely town)

Vis; not here day one, unknown

Onis; coward town

1 minute ago, LTD said:

I’m not the scum - I’ve been on or started three scum lynch trains. 

SK has to be Vis or LP as Onidsen says  .

of which:

Ovi wasn't known to scum as deserter

Gnips looked like a lost case and you followed the train saying that you preferred to vote someone else (me)

fact manipulation to your own favour is quite easy my friend

2 minutes ago, Visovics said:

of which:

Ovi wasn't known to scum as deserter

Gnips looked like a lost case and you followed the train saying that you preferred to vote someone else (me)

fact manipulation to your own favour is quite easy my friend

@Visovics no LTD was first vote on GNIPS you were hammer

however he appeared to not be online when everything went down i will give you that.

1 minute ago, Matt3412 said:

@Visovics no LTD was first vote on GNIPS you were hammer

oh his name is after yours, I thought he had voted 2nd then, my bad then

I think I was second vote on GNiPs.

I think this puzzle is done - too many roles - too easy to confirm.

## vote visovics

I dont think we should hang vis today if we think he's sk. I can RB him tonight.

We need to get claims from those who have not claimed today and work out our night actions as a unit

All we need is cladias to finger the medic,

then we would know 100% who the 2 scum people are.

pod roleblocks the survivor and we win tomorrow with a hang.

2 minutes ago, PodRacer said:

I dont think we should hang vis today if we think he's sk. I can RB him tonight.

We need to get claims from those who have not claimed today and work out our night actions as a unit

I’m down for that, can we please have a doc on Pod tonight?

tho Sk/scum could no kill to incriminate me if the action is planned ?

The remaining scum is a roleblocker, I assume. I was blocked from investigating last night.

who do you want to lynch today Cal?

##Vote LTD

3 hours ago, clontroper5 said:

@Onidsen : 4 to hammer

@Matt3412 : 4 to hammer

@Lord Preyer : 4 to hammer

@LTD : 3 to hammer (podracer)

@PodRacer : 4 to hammer 

@Caldias : 4 to    h  ammer 

@Visovics : 1 to hammer (onidsen) (Ltd) (Matt3412)

@clontroper5 my vote is for vis now I think you missed it

##vote vis

3 minutes ago, Matt3412 said:

@clontroper5 my vote is for vis now I think you missed it

##vote vis

Yes I did. Updated properly now

time to claim Vis