Oh right, one more thing that ruins my poor Palob: ordnance
Palob's survivability (after factoring his ability + mods) is unfortunately still tied to his green dice
Just means ordnance getting full hits do GUARANTEED damage, and sometimes with ruinous crits
Nothing ruins my poor Palob like proton torps 
Plus being at I 3 makes em kinda difficult to avoid since they're best on higher I platforms like Redline, Luke or wedge
Edited by ficklegreendiceTry running Jake sometime as Kyle's wing-man.
If you do it right you can take any action kyle wants that isn't focus (boost, Lock, Jam). Keep Jake in a position to boost or BR each turn, pass the focus action to kyle, and stay in kyle's mobile arc to get the second focus back.
Not top tier but I had fun flying it. Was able to block Soontir with Jake, still token up and let Luke Nuke'm.
Add 97pts of fun to...
| Kyle Katarn — HWK-290 | 38 |
| Perceptive Copilot | 10 |
| Engine Upgrade | * |
| Moldy Crow | 12 |
| Ship Total: 63 | |
| Jake Farrell — A-Wing | 40 |
| Ship Total: 40 | |
So, in rebels I only really like Xwings, moldy, and Sabine shuttle (have yet ti try arvel)
But kyle has really fun synergy with badasses like Wedge or pain-in-the-***...s like Biggs
Wedge with full mods on proton Torpedoes is disgusting
Plus, I've used Moldies to solo miniswarm pretty without issue. And I don't just mean Palob, I mean my Biggs + wedge + ap-5 list got mulched down to JUST Kyle v four Ties...and he still won
Obstacles + boosting + gobs of focus ftw
They're really nasty v low die count ships
Edited by ficklegreendiceYeah, i’ve been super pleased with the HWK so far, particularly Palob, as others have attested. Only really used Palob and Kyle so far, but I’m looking forward to giving the likes of Torkil and Jan a good try.
As someone who has always loved the HWK, it’s new dial, actions, and Moldy Crow makes me absurdly pleased.
HWKS FOREVER!!
13 hours ago, SOTL said:Yes.
Moldy Crow is the most undercosted upgrade in the game, Palob is the most undercosted pilot in the game, the whole HWK chassis has been given a fantastic upgrade in usefulness.
HWKs are crazy, especially Palob. It's nut to think that a HWK is probably the most dangerous jouster in the game, but Palob basically is.
What is Palob?
Disregard, it’s a scum pilot. I only play rebels.
9 hours ago, TasteTheRainbow said:Jan is pretty brutal with trick shot Dash.
Curious to see the list.
9 hours ago, TasteTheRainbow said:
Double post, disregard.
Edited by StriderZessei59 minutes ago, StriderZessei said:Curious to see the list.
| Jan Ors — HWK-290 | 42 |
| Trick Shot | 1 |
| Jyn Erso | 2 |
| Engine Upgrade | 3 |
| Moldy Crow | 12 |
| Ship Total: 60 | |
| Dash Rendar — YT-2400 | 100 |
| Trick Shot | 1 |
| Agile Gunner | 10 |
| Perceptive Copilot | 10 |
| Outrider | 14 |
| Rigged Cargo Chute | 4 |
| Ship Total: 139 | |
19 minutes ago, TasteTheRainbow said:
Jan Ors — HWK-290 42 Trick Shot 1 Jyn Erso 2 Engine Upgrade 3 Moldy Crow 12 Ship Total: 60 Dash Rendar — YT-2400 100 Trick Shot 1 Agile Gunner 10 Perceptive Copilot 10 Outrider 14 Rigged Cargo Chute 4 Ship Total: 139
Have you ever been tempted to try seasoned navigator on Dash?
Edited by StriderZessei15 hours ago, BCooper85 said:I've played 5 games of 2.0 so far and in 4 of those games I've used slightly different variations of Kyle and he's been my star pilot.
- The new Moldy Crow title is completely worth 12 points, giving the ship the ability to joust is awesome and really suits my play style.
- I generally fly in quite a tight pinwheel so the ability to move his mobile arc to cover my other ships for his ability to trigger is great.
- Not finding the dial an issue at all although I didn't really play with the 1.0 version and haven't checked to see how it's changed. The blue 3 straight is noice as is the stop.
- The focus into move turret action is great.
Haven't used the jam action yet as honestly I'm not sure when to use it!
hawks were always good in 1.0 as well, Palob and Jan Ors in particular. people under estimate support craft.
It was a fun jank tactic to cloak Palob, swap his cloak out for slicer tools with Vizago, and just fly around denying tokens and occasionally pinging someone for 1 damage.
15 hours ago, SOTL said:Yes.
Moldy Crow is the most undercosted upgrade in the game, Palob is the most undercosted pilot in the game, the whole HWK chassis has been given a fantastic upgrade in usefulness.
HWKs are crazy, especially Palob. It's nut to think that a HWK is probably the most dangerous jouster in the game, but Palob basically is.
I’ve been running Palob with Fearless and that just seems ridiculous! But it’s a lot of fun!
Yesterday I flew Luke with Kyle and Jan. It went really well. The way how well it went leads me to idea of flying him with Jan and Roarke.
17 hours ago, ficklegreendice said:Oh right, one more thing that ruins my poor Palob: ordnance
Palob's survivability (after factoring his ability + mods) is unfortunately still tied to his green dice
Just means ordnance getting full hits do GUARANTEED damage, and sometimes with ruinous crits
Nothing ruins my poor Palob like proton torps
Plus being at I 3 makes em kinda difficult to avoid since they're best on higher I platforms like Redline, Luke or wedge
Freelance Slicer.
I tried it out yesterday, it's quite neat. It wouldn't stop the torp being fired at all, but it does take a bunch of the mods away when you can pinch a focus at SoC then kill their TL.
IMO new HWK without a title is worse than in 1.0. New HWK with a Moldy Crow title is much better than in 1.0.
4 hours ago, thespaceinvader said:Freelance Slicer.
I tried it out yesterday, it's quite neat. It wouldn't stop the torp being fired at all, but it does take a bunch of the mods away when you can pinch a focus at SoC then kill their TL.
also takes away the mods your title has been stashing
2 hours ago, ficklegreendice said:also takes away the mods your title has been stashing
But on the other hand, you can use it without as much risk as most people because you still keep mods even if you get jammed.
I'm really enjoying the new rebels lineup of ships that can be a strong support, yet still pull their weight in the fray of combat. I know everyone is loving the new HWKs (which I haven't tried yet simply because I haven't painted my HWK), but I would say that Cassian w/ Leia & Tactical Officer and Dutch with Torps + whatever are up there too in terms of support capability. They're all so much more interesting than the slew of range 0/1 FSR knockoffs like Evaan, Garven, Aaren Cracken, etc.
The second 2.0 game I ran was a four-ship list Jan with Moldy Crow, Norra in an ARC, AP-5 and Bodhi Rook. Double Coordinates allowed Norra to roll up with a Focus and TL rolling four dice on every attack.
Engine Upgrade may as well be stapled to the new Crow. 3 points is a dirt cheap price to pay to gain a white boost action, especially when Jan wants to stay stress-free going into the combat phase.
On 9/19/2018 at 10:27 AM, Cr0aker said:Try running Jake sometime as Kyle's wing-man.
If you do it right you can take any action kyle wants that isn't focus (boost, Lock, Jam). Keep Jake in a position to boost or BR each turn, pass the focus action to kyle, and stay in kyle's mobile arc to get the second focus back.
Not top tier but I had fun flying it. Was able to block Soontir with Jake, still token up and let Luke Nuke'm.
Add 97pts of fun to...
Kyle Katarn — HWK-290 38 Perceptive Copilot 10 Engine Upgrade * Moldy Crow 12 Ship Total: 63 Jake Farrell — A-Wing 40 Ship Total: 40
This inspired me to make this arguably much worse jank.
HWK-290 Light Freighter - Kyle Katarn - 64
•Kyle Katarn - Relentless Operative (38)
Trick Shot (1)
Perceptive Copilot (10)
Engine Upgrade (3)
Moldy Crow (12)
ARC-170 Starfighter - Garven Dreis - 68
•Garven Dreis - Red Leader (51)
Expert Handling (4)
Perceptive Copilot (10)
R3 Astromech (3)
UT-60D U-wing - Benthic Two Tubes - 65
•Benthic Two Tubes - Cavern Angels Marksman (47)
Advanced Sensors (8)
Perceptive Copilot (10)
Pivot Wing (Open) (0)
Total: 197/200
View in the X-Wing Squad Builder
Although maybe it should be Esege instead of one of them.
On 9/20/2018 at 2:04 AM, Innese said:I ran Palob with the Lando (Scum) Crew... It was wonderful.
Palob + Moldy Crow + Lando! thats some pretty nice synergy.
1 hour ago, Da_Brown_Bomber said:Palob + Moldy Crow + Lando! thats some pretty nice synergy.
It was horribly consistent, getting 3-4 hits & 2 evades every time I had to roll. The matchups helped too, with a Whisper in one providing Evades, Barrage Bombers providing Focus in another, etc.
It comes out a little on the expensive side, but in 2.0 where it can be hard to token-stack or get multiple mods, its a lot of fun.
Is Nien Nunb worth flying on Kyle Katarn w/ engine upgrade and moldy crow? I haven't put him on the table yet, but focus -> rotate arc seems like it could be happening a lot. It seems like clearing stress on all of the slights could be quite strong.
4 hours ago, ThinkingB said:Is Nien Nunb worth flying on Kyle Katarn w/ engine upgrade and moldy crow? I haven't put him on the table yet, but focus -> rotate arc seems like it could be happening a lot. It seems like clearing stress on all of the slights could be quite strong.
You shouldn't be rotating your arc that much at all on a HWK. Set it to one side and kite.
When you do, being able to focus or lock and rotate is nice, but probably not worth the points you'd need to invest in Nien.
Ships they wanted to make better were made better
Ships they wanted to tone down has been completely knocked on their ka-base.
Ships that have been forgotten about are pretty much meh.
I think we can all say the HWK-290 is in the 1st category.