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By swordfishson, in Star Wars: Force and Destiny RPG

59 minutes ago, swordfishson said:

Before this goes in a direction I really don't want it to. Let me ask another question; how are red lightsaber crystals created and or found.

I used to assume, and I think that's how I think it used to be, that they were just found like the crystals that the Jedi used, but I think over the last couple years or so they've changed that and now red lightsaber crystals are created from the "bleeding" of a crystal that used to be a Jedi's, but was either stolen or the Jedi himself flipped to the dark side. Is this correct or am I off.

in game it's a non-mechanical element so PCs and GMs have free rein over that

1 minute ago, swordfishson said:

Alright thanks for confirming that for me, then my next question would be that if my character defeated a dark side user and took his lightsaber and used it would it turn back to it's original color or would it remain red.

Also,since I'm on the point of crystals, to clarify when Jedi initially get their Crystal; the crystal is colorless until it becomes "attuned" (I think this is the word I saw it earlier) to the to the Jedi. which then I assume determines its color which is more commonly than not blue or green with some exceptions. Do I understand this correctly or am I mistaken?

again free rein

3 minutes ago, swordfishson said:

Alright thanks for confirming that for me, then my next question would be that if my character defeated a dark side user and took his lightsaber and used it would it turn back to it's original color or would it remain red.

Also,since I'm on the point of crystals, to clarify when Jedi initially get their Crystal; the crystal is colorless until it becomes "attuned" (I think this is the word I saw it earlier) to the to the Jedi. which then I assume determines its color which is more commonly than not blue or green with some exceptions. Do I understand this correctly or am I mistaken?

Pretty much correct. The rules given for the Corrupted Crystal have rules for cleansing it. They don't say that it changes colors, but the Ahsoka novel shows this to be the case.

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4 hours ago, swordfishson said:

Alright thanks for confirming that for me, then my next question would be that if my character defeated a dark side user and took his lightsaber and used it would it turn back to it's original color or would it remain red.

Also,since I'm on the point of crystals, to clarify when Jedi initially get their Crystal; the crystal is colorless until it becomes "attuned" (I think this is the word I saw it earlier) to the to the Jedi. which then I assume determines its color which is more commonly than not blue or green with some exceptions. Do I understand this correctly or am I mistaken?

No, you are not mistaken. All kyber crystals in the current canon start out colorless before being attuned to a given Jedi. When this occurs, it takes on a hue befitting the true character of that Jedi. Common hues being blues and greens, but also yellows and purples. One even became black, becoming the crystal of the Mandalorian Darksaber.

4 hours ago, HappyDaze said:

Pretty much correct. The rules given for the Corrupted Crystal have rules for cleansing it. They don't say that it changes colors, but the Ahsoka novel shows this to be the case.

@HappyDaze is correct. Canonically, however, when a corrupted crystal is purified it does lose its red hue. In Ahsoka’s case, the crystals she purified became white, to signify her place outside of the Jedi . Ahsoka was not a Jedi, but still a paragon of the Light, and, as such, when these crystals attuned themselves to her, they took on a hue representative of her status—white. This is specifically spelled out in the book.

As such, it stands to reason that when a corrupted crystal is purified by a Jedi, and attunes itself to that Jedi, it will likely change to a color suited to that Jedi, be it any hue of blue, green, yellow, violet, purple, etc.

Thanks to both of you, very much appreciated for the info.

Does anyone have a source that kind of has a Foundation or formula for how to tell which color a character would have for there lightsaber? I know I've seen different things and such for different colors at different times throughout my life but I was wondering if there was anything or any where that had them all together.

25 minutes ago, swordfishson said:

Thanks to both of you, very much appreciated for the info.

Does anyone have a source that kind of has a Foundation or formula for how to tell which color a character would have for there lightsaber? I know I've seen different things and such for different colors at different times throughout my life but I was wondering if there was anything or any where that had them all together.

Nothing much in the current canon. In Legends, during the KotOR era (particularly as depicted in the game), Blue signified Guardians, Green signified Consulars, Yellow signified Sentinels, though any Jedi could use a crystal of any color they wanted. Under the current canon, Blue and green are the most common colors, with yellow mostly being used for the Temple guards, and some rare blades having purple. There has been only one black blade, the Dark Saber, and Ahsoka's are the only known white ones to date. Basically, the choice of blade color is up to you, except for red, which is exclusively reserved for Corrupted crystals.

This is perfect, thank you so much. ?

My current idea us for his personal lightsaber to be yellow, but haven't come up with the way he got it yet; any ideas?

6 minutes ago, swordfishson said:

This is perfect, thank you so much. ?

My current idea us for his personal lightsaber to be yellow, but haven't come up with the way he got it yet; any ideas?

Simple, when he attunes the crystal, it simply turns yellow. It's that simple. Now, if you mean how he acquires the crystal to begin with, it really depends upon what era you're playing in. If it's pre Sith War KotOR era (before the devastation of Ossus), you can get a Mephite crystal from there, or one of any number of other crystal types from other planets known to have cyber crystals. If it's Prequel era, he could participate in a Gathering trial on Ilum. If it's Rebellion era or later, once again, there are numerous planets available, aside from Ilum, which is no longer accessible, and, by the time of TLJ, probably destroyed. You could even potentially find Ossus and acquire a Mephite crystal once again.

Well my character was born sometime during the Clone Wars before asajj Ventress dies, (obviously) so from that time till when I'll actually start playing him which would be around the same time that the first Death Star was destroyed. So sometime in between there I would have him acquire his Crystal and build his lightsaber

On a slightly different note would this make sense? "At the same time that the Death Star destroyed there is kind of this shift in the force that maybe exposes or in some way reveals some some Sith or dark side users for him to hunt."

14 minutes ago, swordfishson said:

Well my character was born sometime during the Clone Wars before asajj Ventress dies, (obviously) so from that time till when I'll actually start playing him which would be around the same time that the first Death Star was destroyed. So sometime in between there I would have him acquire his Crystal and build his lightsaber

On a slightly different note would this make sense? "At the same time that the Death Star destroyed there is kind of this shift in the force that maybe exposes or in some way reveals some some Sith or dark side users for him to hunt."

Well, Ilum is out of the question as it's firmly in Imperial control and being strip-mined. It's likely that it eventually gets turned into Starkiller Base. However, there are other planets you can get crystals from, including Dantooine (Dantari), Tatooine (Krayt Dragon pearl), Loord (Loordian crystal), Lwhekk (Saphith Gem), Barab IV (Barab Ingot), M'Hael (Dragite Gem), or any number of other planets.

36 minutes ago, swordfishson said:

Well my character was born sometime during the Clone Wars before asajj Ventress dies, (obviously)

Dathomirian Force-users have ways to animate the dead. Go for the creepy and have her corpse carry the child and give birth to your character. Anything's possible with the Force, right? ?

2 hours ago, HappyDaze said:

Dathomirian Force-users have ways to animate the dead. Go for the creepy and have her corpse carry the child and give birth to your character. Anything's possible with the Force, right? ?

Probably won't use that one, I was thinking they I leave them both dead and just use Holograms, holocrons and other teaching styles, but thank you for the idea.

Also thanks for the list of planets.

On 9/21/2018 at 6:05 PM, swordfishson said:

Alright thanks for confirming that for me, then my next question would be that if my character defeated a dark side user and took his lightsaber and used it would it turn back to it's original color or would it remain red.

Also,since I'm on the point of crystals, to clarify when Jedi initially get their Crystal; the crystal is colorless until it becomes "attuned" (I think this is the word I saw it earlier) to the to the Jedi. which then I assume determines its color which is more commonly than not blue or green with some exceptions. Do I understand this correctly or am I mistaken?

Check out the book Ahsoka. It’s pretty fast and easy read. Pretty much sums up all that stuff. I’d also recommend checking out the Clone Wars episodes that deal with Ilum, if not binge watch the whole series on Netflix. It’s good, especially once you get through season 1.

Also, lots of inquisitors to fight, if that’s your thing.

but really, do your own thing. Use what you want, discard what you want. As long as it’s fun and interesting you’ll be fine.

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