Future of 1.0?

By Games'n'Geeks, in X-Wing

15 minutes ago, Games'n'Geeks said:

One thing I'm thinking about is that surely FFG will be putting new stuff in when they re-release the ships, right? For example, the conversion kits has stuff for Phantoms, but surely that's not everything? Surely when Tie Phantom 2.0 gets released, it'll have new stuff in it that's not in the conversion kits otherwise what reason would we have to buy the new Phantom 2.0? Same goes for all the ships to be released for 2.0?

Obviously.... Did you open your conversion kits? Notice the extra packet of lil bases and stuff in there that kinda falls out and sticks out like a sore thumb? That's all new stuff they were wondering if they should force us to buy the new release kits or not for, obviously the decision not to anger their playerbase won out and they put all the new stuff in the conversion kits.

They will absolutely be releasing new content with all the upcoming packs, I bet much of the playerbase is waiting with bated breath to see if everyone is gonna need to own every ship to own every card or not.

I am sure there are a few 1.0 ships that won't see a reprint for years, especially with the new factions and new cartoon and eventually EP 9 coming out.

With that said, the manufacturing process for these models has greatly improved over time and if you don't already own it, you probably want the new version, and even if you do own it, probably still want the new version.

Just hard to know what ships will be MIA for years that you might want to pick up. I would say anything from the old EU and old video games would be last on the remake list.

1 hour ago, Mep said:

I am sure there are a few 1.0 ships that won't see a reprint for years, especially with the new factions and new cartoon and eventually EP 9 coming out.

With that said, the manufacturing process for these models has greatly improved over time and if you don't already own it, you probably want the new version, and even if you do own it, probably still want the new version.

Just hard to know what ships will be MIA for years that you might want to pick up. I would say anything from the old EU and old video games would be last on the remake list.

I heard rumors Disney Cancelled Episode 9 because of how **** LJ was received. I know I am happy about it.

Yes, the highest grossing movie of 2017 and the highest selling blu ray of 2018 won't see a squeal because 200 guys on the internet wanted snoke to be a vampire. ?

I don't want them to cancel Episode 9 but for the Force's sake, please somebody write a better script!! :D

20 hours ago, tsuruki said:

Obviously.... Did you open your conversion kits? Notice the extra packet of lil bases and stuff in there that kinda falls out and sticks out like a sore thumb? That's all new stuff they were wondering if they should force us to buy the new release kits or not for, obviously the decision not to anger their playerbase won out and they put all the new stuff in the conversion kits.

They will absolutely be releasing new content with all the upcoming packs, I bet much of the playerbase is waiting with bated breath to see if everyone is gonna need to own every ship to own every card or not.

I only have the Empire pack for now. What are you talking about specifically?

20 hours ago, Mep said:

Yes, the highest grossing movie of 2017 and the highest selling blu ray of 2018 won't see a squeal because 200 guys on the internet wanted snoke to be a vampire. ?

I love how the go-to counter whenever someone points out how crap TLJ was is to point at its box office. Have you seen a Transformers movie? Do you think McDonalds makes the best cheeseburgers because they sell the most? I can make a better cheeseburger than the worlds best selling brand, and I haven’t taken a cooking lesson since I was 12.

I didn’t need Snoke to be a vampire. I’d have settled for him being a character.

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2 minutes ago, Bakura83 said:

I love how the go-to counter whenever someone points out how crap TLJ was is to point at its box office. Have you seen a Transformers movie? Do you think McDonalds makes the best cheeseburgers because they sell the most?

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I didn’t want Snoke to be a vampire. I’d have settled for him being a character.

Because that's why studios make movies.... To make money. Someone thinking they are cancelling the sequel of a movie that made a ton of money because some internet fans are angry (and would be no matter what because no one can make a movie as good as nastalga) is just crazy.

5 minutes ago, Icelom said:

Because that's why studios make movies.... To make money. Someone thinking they are cancelling the sequel of a movie that made a ton of money because some internet fans are angry (and would be no matter what because no one can make a movie as good as nastalga) is just crazy.

I’m pretty sure he was making a joke...

...unlike the people who keep defending TLJ because it made money.

I’m not angry at TLJ because of nostalgia goggles. Rogue One and TFA were fine. Not great, but fine. Heck, I’d even put the prequels over TLJ. TJL was a narrative mess even some of the cast spoke out against. The only reason it made money was the same reason people go to McDonalds instead of somewhere better.

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6 minutes ago, Bakura83 said:

I’m pretty sure he was making a joke...

...unlike the people who keep defending TLJ because it made money.

I’m not angry at TLJ because of nostalgia goggles. Rogue One and TFA were fine. Not great, but fine. Heck, I’d even put the prequels over TLJ. TJL was a narrative mess even some of the cast spoke out against. The only reason it made money was the same reason people go to McDonalds instead of somewhere better.

No one is defending TLJ, we are saying its idiotic disney would cancel episode 9 after the monetary success of TLJ because people got angry on the internet.

Yes, star wars is like a big mac. People complain how bad that hamburger is with their mouth full as the shove that big mac in their mouth. Ever since the prequels people have been hating on SW all the while buying the crap out of it. For two decades now people have love to hate star wars. If they ever make another great SW movie again people wouldn't know what to do with it. "... that was better than Empire, but wait, it can't be, but it was, but it can't be, but it was, but it can't be, but that Thanos was really cool, so I guess it was .... but I don't want it to be ...."

28 minutes ago, Bakura83 said:

Do you think McDonalds makes the best cheeseburgers because they sell the most?

To be fair, as much as I love GBK and Five Guys, sometimes a McDonald's cheeseburger is literally the only thing that will do.

1 hour ago, Games'n'Geeks said:

I only have the Empire pack for now. What are you talking about specifically?

There's a separate bag in the Empire conversion kit that contains three additional TIE Fighter pilots tiles (Del Meeko, Gideon Hask and Seyn Marana) and one additional TIE Advanced pilot (Ved Foslo), along with their punchboard base tokens. These extra pilots were to come with the new TIE Fighter and TIE Advanced expansions, and were added into the conversion kit at a later date. The Rebel and Scum conversion kits have similar extra pilots.

Oh, I do think I have those! It was a small packet with 4 tiles.... so are you saying that the TIE Fighter and TIE Advanced expansions won't have new stuff? New skills/upgrades?

44 minutes ago, Icelom said:

Because that's why studios make movies.... To make money. Someone thinking they are cancelling the sequel of a movie that made a ton of money because some internet fans are angry (and would be no matter what because no one can make a movie as good as nastalga) is just crazy.

Here's a better idea: Make a good movie and it will make more money than a bad movie that's just relying on previous reputation and a massive fan-base. SW Ep8 made $500K in 2017, Black Panther made $700K, Avengers $670K, Incredibles 2 $605K in 2018. Imagine what SW would've made if Ep7 and Ep8 were actually great movies? Let's move on guys.

https://www.the-numbers.com/market/2018/summary

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6 minutes ago, Games'n'Geeks said:

Oh, I do think I have those! It was a small packet with 4 tiles.... so are you saying that the TIE Fighter and TIE Advanced expansions won't have new stuff? New skills/upgrades?

Yup. As far as I can tell from the wiki, all cards found in Wave 1 boxes (Firespray, X-wing, Fang, TIE Advanced, TIE fighter) are found in conversion kits too. With the exception of things like Quick Build cards, which the conversion kits seem to lack.

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Black Panther total gross was 1.3 B, the Last Jedi total gross was 1.3 B. Keep in mind TLJ opened at the end of the year and a good chunk of it's change was made the following year. It skews the numbers and it is always good to keep the facts correct. Yeah there are a lot of guys on the internet that hate it because snoke wasn't a vampire. Everyone else is buying it. It is what it is.

Thinking a bunch of guys on the internet didn't get to live out their twilight 2.0 fantasy in star wars is going to impact X Wing's future is silly. The future of X wing will be Clone Wars, EP 9 and the Resistance which will slow down the 2.0 conversions of all the old ships. I don't see a massive dump of 2.0 product being done, instead a slow roll out with new ships never in X wing before with a few of the old ships showing up. Even if they did one old ship per faction per wave a few times a year, it will take a few years to see all the ships in 2.0 format. I don't see them doing any 1.0 reprints to replenish stock.

With that said, there is enough used old stuff out there I don't see it being hard to get what you want if you are willing to buy used.

11 hours ago, Games'n'Geeks said:

Oh, I do think I have those! It was a small packet with 4 tiles.... so are you saying that the TIE Fighter and TIE Advanced expansions won't have new stuff? New skills/upgrades?

Yeah, all the pilot cards and upgrades in the Wave 1 expansions can be found either in the core set or conversion kits, so the only reason to pick up the expansions is if you want more ships/dials or the quick build cards (which are also available as a pdf on the support section of the FFG website).

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2 hours ago, FTS Gecko said:

To be fair, as much as I love GBK and Five Guys, sometimes a McDonald's cheeseburger is literally the only thing that will do.

Mmmm ....... chicken nuggets

So, what did you all have for breakfast? I had Raisin Bran.

7 minutes ago, Do I need a Username said:

So, what did you all have for breakfast? I had Raisin Bran.

I had one of those protein drinks that comes in a little bottle. Not actually that bad of a breakfast, when you're stretched for time.

7 hours ago, Bakura83 said:

I love how the go-to counter whenever someone points out how crap TLJ was is to point at its box office. Have you seen a Transformers movie? Do you think McDonalds makes the best cheeseburgers because they sell the most? I can make a better cheeseburger than the worlds best selling brand, and I haven’t taken a cooking lesson since I was 12.

I didn’t need Snoke to be a vampire. I’d have settled for him being a character.

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Burn mui Fuego ? ?

On 9/18/2018 at 8:59 PM, Mep said:

Yes, the highest grossing movie of 2017 and the highest selling blu ray of 2018 won't see a squeal because 200 guys on the internet wanted snoke to be a vampire. ?

7 hours ago, Mep said:

Black Panther total gross was 1.3 B, the Last Jedi total gross was 1.3 B. Keep in mind TLJ opened at the end of the year and a good chunk of it's change was made the following year. It skews the numbers and it is always good to keep the facts correct. Yeah there are a lot of guys on the internet that hate it because snoke wasn't a vampire. Everyone else is buying it. It is what it is.

Thinking a bunch of guys on the internet didn't get to live out their twilight 2.0 fantasy in star wars is going to impact X Wing's future is silly. The future of X wing will be Clone Wars, EP 9 and the Resistance which will slow down the 2.0 conversions of all the old ships. I don't see a massive dump of 2.0 product being done, instead a slow roll out with new ships never in X wing before with a few of the old ships showing up. Even if they did one old ship per faction per wave a few times a year, it will take a few years to see all the ships in 2.0 format. I don't see them doing any 1.0 reprints to replenish stock.

With that said, there is enough used old stuff out there I don't see it being hard to get what you want if you are willing to buy used.

That's true Mep. BP and infinity war, prob grossed more in 2018 than TLJ did, but because TLJ's numbers were split from late dec 2017 into jan 2018, it might have more money overall..

11 hours ago, Mep said:

Yeah there are a lot of guys on the internet that hate it because snoke wasn't a vampire. Everyone else is buying it. It is what it is.

Thinking a bunch of guys on the internet didn't get to live out their twilight 2.0 fantasy in star wars is going to impact X Wing's future is silly.

What in the blue **** are you whickering on about @Mep ? Vampires? Twilight? Have you been chewing on the deathsticks?

Guys, please bring the TLJ conversation elsewhere. So tired of that dead horse.

Back on topic --- so no reason to buy 2.0 Wave 1 aside from extra dials? I'm glad the box set X-Wing came with the movable wings or I'd have bought an X-Wing 2.0 ship.

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9 minutes ago, Games'n'Geeks said:

Guys, please bring the TLJ conversation elsewhere. So tired of that dead horse.

Back on topic --- so no reason to buy 2.0 Wave 1 aside from extra dials? I'm glad the box set X-Wing came with the movable wings or I'd have bought an X-Wing 2.0 ship.

You don't need to buy any wave 1 ships from 1.0 unless you want the ships, you get all the cards in the conversion kit. That doesn't apply to Saw's or to the TIE Reaper, and it doesn't apply to post-wave-1 2.0 ships, although they've said they will have a mechanism to get those cards without buying ships you already have.

2 hours ago, You Look Like A Nail said:

You don't need to buy any wave 1 ships from 1.0 unless you want the ships, you get all the cards in the conversion kit. That doesn't apply to Saw's or to the TIE Reaper, and it doesn't apply to post-wave-1 2.0 ships, although they've said they will have a mechanism to get those cards without buying ships you already have.

Pilots and upgrades from Lando's Falcon are also not in the core set or conversion kits.