We get a glance into the hanger and it's compact.
Arrestor Scale Revealed - It's medium scale
Good scene not sure why it was dropped. really good backstory item.
51 minutes ago, Thraug said:Good scene not sure why it was dropped. really good backstory item.
With all the changes to Solo (Lord & Miller -> Howard), I imagine there are a lot of good scenes that were lost in transition. This was probably just a victim of that, and I agree, it would have been nice to include and explain why he was running around on the ground.
I thought this was a new Wave announcement... is it wrong to say I'm glad it isn't?
I really dislike the Arrestor, it's concept art that wasn't used in IV for a reason.
That scene was great!
7 hours ago, Piratical Moustache said:I thought this was a new Wave announcement... is it wrong to say I'm glad it isn't?
I really dislike the Arrestor, it's concept art that wasn't used in IV for a reason.
We really only have that old concept art and a very cartoonish toy to base an opinion on. With a decent, modern workup I think the basic design could be pretty cool.
Regarding the scene, yeah - it's actually quite solid, although maybe a bit ridiculous to have an officer (anyone flying is going to be an officer, even as a cadet - that's what he is training for) unable to even identify the rank of other officers, but...ya know, whatever, it could have been re-worked and was nice background.
As to the OP title - I'd agree there, too. The ship looks pretty close in rough dimensions to the Quasar Fire-sort-of-ship, although obviously with less horizontal and more vertical structure.
Edited by xanderfI like the scene too but see why it was cut.
If this scene was in: Headhunters would be cannon again, we'd have Arrestors for Armada (maybe). Oh an Onyx squadron?
2 hours ago, Touston said:I like the scene too but see why it was cut.
If this scene was in: Headhunters would be cannon again, we'd have Arrestors for Armada (maybe). Oh an Onyx squadron?
Headhunters already are from the Clone Wars at least ?
I love the arrestor. I think it has a place as a double fleet support upgrade ship to counterbalance the rebels having cheaper ships.
The scene is also pretty great to show han having that flight experience- and showing why he doesn't fit in the imperial order of things.
I think it got cut because his service in mimban was convincing enough to show his imperial service. Wish this could have been finished though, to show that even the empire acknowledged his piloting tallents.
The reference to Headhunters had me in fanboy nirvana. I first encountered them a long time ago...in the 90s reading West End Games' Star Wars Sourcebook. A great nod to the past, along with the Arrestor.
Edited by skirmisherTo me, that scene implies that the Arrestor was a training vessel like the aircraft carriers that plied the Great Lakes during WW2* If it was a training vessel, it wouldn't have taken part in any combat situations and hence it's absence in Armada. Just my rationalization.?
*Trivia from the Great Lakes State: USS Wolverine and USS Sable.
On 9/14/2018 at 12:20 PM, SuperMarino said:With all the changes to Solo (Lord & Miller -> Howard), I imagine there are a lot of good scenes that were lost in transition. This was probably just a victim of that, and I agree, it would have been nice to include and explain why he was running around on the ground.
Probably just cut for time. A lot of good scenes can end up on the cutting room floor in order to avoid going over a desired runtime. And as good as the scene is, with his line later to the heist team about washing out of flight school, it was probably viewed as not vital and got cut to save a few minutes elsewhere. EsPecially since the transition from the 'escaping corellia' sequence to the dramatic battle on mimban flows better without this scene inbetween.
Edited by mithril2098On 9/14/2018 at 1:20 PM, SuperMarino said:With all the changes to Solo (Lord & Miller -> Howard), I imagine there are a lot of good scenes that were lost in transition. This was probably just a victim of that, and I agree, it would have been nice to include and explain why he was running around on the ground.
This is actually a Ron Howard scene, one of his daughters is the female Imperial Officer who is on the tribunal panel. I only recently found this out.
On 9/17/2018 at 3:16 PM, mithril2098 said:Probably just cut for time. A lot of good scenes can end up on the cutting room floor in order to avoid going over a desired runtime. And as good as the scene is, with his line later to the heist team about washing out of flight school, it was probably viewed as not vital and got cut to save a few minutes elsewhere. EsPecially since the transition from the 'escaping corellia' sequence to the dramatic battle on mimban flows better without this scene inbetween.
Absolutely.
While there are cool elements to this scene I think it ultimately takes away more then it gives.
Sure it makes sense the Empire wants obedient soldiers but creative people like Han have potential to become Top Aces like Soontir Fel or whoever the one from Rebels is.
So why would they shift Han to the infantry? That's plain stupidity. Unless Han has an extensive pattern of disobedience not even the Commodore can overlook, which for me requires more context.
Plus cutting from the reruiter putting him in the flight academy to Mimban subverts the expectation we would see him at the academy. Much better transition imo.
On 9/20/2018 at 4:30 AM, Forresto said:While there are cool elements to this scene I think it ultimately takes away more then it gives.
Sure it makes sense the Empire wants obedient soldiers but creative people like Han have potential to become Top Aces like Soontir Fel or whoever the one from Rebels is.
So why would they shift Han to the infantry? That's plain stupidity. Unless Han has an extensive pattern of disobedience not even the Commodore can overlook, which for me requires more context.
Plus cutting from the reruiter putting him in the flight academy to Mimban subverts the expectation we would see him at the academy. Much better transition imo.
Guys like Soontir Fel had to pass training before becoming aces.
I'd guess that they probably "played along" with the expectations during training, then pulled all the stuff they're famous for once they'd made themselves an asset worth holding on to.
We need the Arrestor in Armada as a slightly tougher Quasar-Fire.
Same squadron value, but all titles increase its combat capability rather than help with squad pushing.
Want to move your entire squadball into engagement with the enemy at once? Quasar-Fire is what you need.
Want to shove around fighters like normal whilst slowing nearby ships as if you had inbuilt Tractor Beams or something? Arrestor Cruiser for you.
Edited by Indy_comI've managed to scale the ship. Between that scene and the hologram shot next to some Star Destroyers, I figured it should be about 900m.

Here is how it would compare in real size to the Heavy TIE and the Star Destroyer
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So yes. That would make it a medium ship.
Looks like it would have nebulon-b level shields with that neck ripe for chopping.
Looking at this ship again, the "radar dishes" could be immense versions of the atgar anti-vehicle cannon seen in ESB.