13 hours ago, Bolshevik65 said:I've given up X Wing...
...approximately 18 months ago, but you do so enjoy coming back to point it out.
13 hours ago, Bolshevik65 said:(how many starters does one game need???)
You used to work for GW, why don't you tell us?
7 hours ago, Hiemfire said:Web site or phone app? If phone app double check that you don't have an update pending.
App Store is giving version of 1.0.1. In app says 1.0.3... but I’m assuming that because, like the rest of this hopeless “app”, it’s pulling that from the internet.
5 hours ago, FTS Gecko said:...approximately 18 months ago, but you do so enjoy coming back to point it out.
You used to work for GW, why don't you tell us?
One of the admittedly minor reasons I dropped X Wing is because it's got more than its fair share of people who behave like you, sarcastic trolls who are very brave behind a keyboard. I haven't met a single unpleasant person whilst playing Armada. One or two odd people yes, but some real unpleasant types seems to play X Wing both in online forums and in the real world.
I don't think I've ever played a Games Workshop game other than one or two games of 40K back in the 80s when I substituted for a player who dropped out of a campaign. I'm a 53 year old historical wargamer who drives a van for a living, I have better things to do than hang around with teenagers, it would look odd and I would not feel comfortable even if I was interested in the games, which I'm not.
Compare our postings. I wish the community, which includes you, all the best for the future with version 2. You chose to be rude to me.
Feel free to reply but I have said all I am going to say. I don't think anybody needs to see two people who have never met each other and are never going to meet squabbling online. FFG forums should be about the game, not about point scoring and arguing. I've made my point and I'm happy to leave it at that.
Good day.
Edited by Bolshevik651 hour ago, Sasajak said:App Store is giving version of 1.0.1. In app says 1.0.3... but I’m assuming that because, like the rest of this hopeless “app”, it’s pulling that from the internet.
Which store. Apple or Google?
On 9/13/2018 at 3:25 PM, TasteTheRainbow said:Oh nice. Which minis game is this good and cheap? I’ve been looking for it for about 35 years so far.
Guildball
This is a minor gripe, but a gripe none the less. I've been trying to like the app - it's more functional than it was, so an improvement already - but then I checked out the "variants" and one is the Battle of Yavin. I like that only one TIE Advanced is permitted and that's Vader, but I was then perplexed to see all of Inferno Squad in there for TIE/ln - only Iden was at Yavin. Then I checked out the rebs and they're missing Garven - he's Red Leader. It's the title on his card. Lol. C'mon FFG, you're better than that.
On 9/14/2018 at 4:07 PM, PanchoX1 said:my update screen also shows a 1.0.3 but no option to actually do an update. either in the app or in the apple store. strange.
I suspect the reason is because the apps share a common chabgelog but aren’t all deployed at the same time, I believe the Apple Store takes longest. I also believe that the contractors who built this did so using ReactNative which promises the ability to share a common UI codebase across Android and iOS (and web if you use ReactNativeWeb).
Meaning server side issues can be fixed immediately across all three, but platform specific are still bound by a release on the store.
My iOS version still won’t let me put a gunner on Boba w/Maurader...so cool.
On 9/13/2018 at 2:29 PM, TasteTheRainbow said:?
If FFG loses customers over this then those players need to get some perspective. I work on and use projects with budgets several orders of magnitude larger than FFG and none of us are ever surprised by a bid process leading to a product like this at launch. If you want a great product on day 1 you have to pay for it in beta testing and QA. All of that costs real money. FFG is not that big.
I disagree with this. Look at the apps produced by the community. Functionality over glitz.
Agreed that FFG hasn't the fat wallet that other companies have but with something like the app that's so important to the game you would think they would take the time to make sure bugs were at a minimum for launch.
I'm beginning to think we really are the beta testers and troubleshooters for X-wing.
Man, there's more shills on here than I thought.
19 hours ago, Bad Idea Comics said:This is a minor gripe, but a gripe none the less. I've been trying to like the app - it's more functional than it was, so an improvement already - but then I checked out the "variants" and one is the Battle of Yavin. I like that only one TIE Advanced is permitted and that's Vader, but I was then perplexed to see all of Inferno Squad in there for TIE/ln - only Iden was at Yavin. Then I checked out the rebs and they're missing Garven - he's Red Leader. It's the title on his card. Lol. C'mon FFG, you're better than that.
Yeah, while a minor gripe in the grand scheme of things, this oversight on a basic aspect of setting up a variant list reflects a general lack of care on the app in general. It's not just a single ship either, we have Horton Salm and Gray Squadron pilots available for the Y-wing. It's really not that hard and has little to do with coding.
1 hour ago, redxavier said:Yeah, while a minor gripe in the grand scheme of things, this oversight on a basic aspect of setting up a variant list reflects a general lack of care on the app in general. It's not just a single ship either, we have Horton Salm and Gray Squadron pilots available for the Y-wing. It's really not that hard and has little to do with coding.
I'm actually fine with generics in there, except for Cavern Angels (the illicit slot on X-wings has no place at Yavin) - generics are just lesser skilled pilots and their card designations don't mean much. The aces are a different story. That said, at least its better than it was - they used to have all the ships listed and when you picked a wrong one it would then get deleted from your list. So, this is an improvement. But an inaccurate one. Like I said, a minor gripe, and one I imagine they will fix in short order.
On September 14, 2018 at 9:31 AM, JJ48 said:I can understand the disappointment, but I don't get the "I just wasted $150" attitude. I could almost understand someone passing 2.0 altogether because of the app (though even that sounds a bit extreme), but if you've already spent the money, why not make the most of it?
It's just frustrating seeing people pass on an excellent meal just because it's not on china with real silverware, when paper plates and plasticware don't change the taste at all.
Anyone serves me beer in plastic... It's fightin' time!
If you've worked in software you will know about Scrum, Kanban, and other agile processes. You play planning poker as a Product Owner, usually. I had the freedom to advise a large coorporation, as I saw fit, for a while, on best processes.
I haven't looked at the app, but barring aestetics it's a few week job for a five man team, for this level of complexity. Two QAs can automise the QE process to check all functions to ensure a smooth release. Optimizing for different OS will add time though.
It appears that no QAs were employed, and the team had no unit tests, from what I've read here.
Good luck FFG. Pay peanuts...
On September 14, 2018 at 4:48 PM, Darth Meanie said:Yeah. To correct my earlier statement. . .
. . .I should have said "5 years of foibles."
Balance issues, the missing Blue Line, the collateral damage JM5K nerf-fest.
This app thing just seems to take it to an all-new level.
Plus, my wife just asked me if a couple more friends could get in on learning Magic. Seems like a great time to check out, and look back in a couple years to see what happened. I can always catch back up then.
Play Elder Dragon Legends (Commander, I think now) format, only spending money to play "draft" with new cards. My family has great fun, no need to collect multiples, and all cards are at least considered carefully when drafted. Otherwise, YOU'RE DOOMED into tragic, the gathering...
Oh, and by the way FFG, the best thing, other than the game mechanics and painted ships, is...
This forum.
Thanks for keeping it free and open, letting us express ourselves. Honestly, I don't think people are acidic here, only nervous that the game they love is in trouble. And it's Star Wars.
That's why the oldies keep coming back.
On 9/15/2018 at 3:29 PM, Bad Idea Comics said:This is a minor gripe, but a gripe none the less. I've been trying to like the app - it's more functional than it was, so an improvement already - but then I checked out the "variants" and one is the Battle of Yavin. I like that only one TIE Advanced is permitted and that's Vader, but I was then perplexed to see all of Inferno Squad in there for TIE/ln - only Iden was at Yavin. Then I checked out the rebs and they're missing Garven - he's Red Leader. It's the title on his card. Lol. C'mon FFG, you're better than that.
The variants are so lame that I find it hard to believe the brainstorming session didn't place in the men's room at the urinals.
8 hours ago, Stoneface said:I'm beginning to think we really are the beta testers and troubleshooters for X-wing.
Yeah, I'm pretty positive about it at this point.
There is an entire subforum devoted to us finding the mistakes. . .
15 hours ago, Larky Bobble said:If you've worked in software you will know about Scrum, Kanban, and other agile processes. You play planning poker as a Product Owner, usually. I had the freedom to advise a large coorporation, as I saw fit, for a while, on best processes.
I haven't looked at the app, but barring aestetics it's a few week job for a five man team, for this level of complexity. Two QAs can automise the QE process to check all functions to ensure a smooth release. Optimizing for different OS will add time though.
It appears that no QAs were employed, and the team had no unit tests, from what I've read here.
Good luck FFG. Pay peanuts...
Thinking about the fact that whoever would be designing the app had the same amount of notice that everyone else at the company did about what was coming out, it reminded me of my old Magic days when people who worked on the digital version were intentionally kept out of the loop about what new cards were coming until just a few days before the set dropped. The game crashed for about a week every single time there was a update for the new expansion. If that’s what happened here, if the IT team is being kept in the dark, or only received the info as an afterthought, we can expect this to be an issue with each new wave going forward.
3 hours ago, Boris_the_Dwarf said:Thinking about the fact that whoever would be designing the app had the same amount of notice that everyone else at the company did about what was coming out, it reminded me of my old Magic days when people who worked on the digital version were intentionally kept out of the loop about what new cards were coming until just a few days before the set dropped. The game crashed for about a week every single time there was a update for the new expansion. If that’s what happened here, if the IT team is being kept in the dark, or only received the info as an afterthought, we can expect this to be an issue with each new wave going forward.
Yeah...but MTG is enormously complex as a game, and that is what they were implementing. I was amzed they evr got it running, given the infinite loops that some card inteactions created (blue screen time for computers). NDAs would create further complexities, but it was already very complex.
This is a collector and collator program. No more. The data fields are tested with simulations but the real info should do nothing different. There is no complexity for NDAs to interfere with.
I don't get you. Implying that you defend FFG when people say they're out for money (Which of course they are as they are here selling a game they made) yet in bringing it up you are putting that very question into the forefront.
Then you say the part they're making money off of is fine and object to their app which is free to download....
That doesn't make sense.
1 hour ago, Larky Bobble said:Yeah...but MTG is enormously complex as a game, and that is what they were implementing. I was amzed they evr got it running, given the infinite loops that some card inteactions created (blue screen time for computers). NDAs would create further complexities, but it was already very complex.
This is a collector and collator program. No more. The data fields are tested with simulations but the real info should do nothing different. There is no complexity for NDAs to interfere with.
Not to go off topic, but don’t get me started on NDAs at Wizards of the Coast... or FFG for that matter. It was worse than being in law enforcement. I know people there (WotC) who weren’t even supposed to tell anyone - even other people at the company - that they worked there! One guy I know who worked there said he was a Secret Service Agent. ?
23 hours ago, Kandiak said:My iOS version still won’t let me put a gunner on Boba w/Maurader...so cool.
and I've noticed that the Italic formatting code issue is still there as well.
On 9/15/2018 at 10:51 AM, Bolshevik65 said:historical wargamer
"A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away." What more do you want?
Cool new feature in LaunchBayNext, want to know how much any ship in your squad is at half points?
On 9/16/2018 at 7:10 PM, Darth Meanie said:The variants are so lame that I find it hard to believe the brainstorming session didn't place in the men's room at the urinals.
Yeah, I'm pretty positive about it at this point.
I actually come up with some of my best ideas while on the crapper...
11 hours ago, Kandiak said:Cool new feature in LaunchBayNext, want to know how much any ship in your squad is at half points?
What is this "half points" thing people keep talking about?