8 points of shield value between the generic Rebel and Scum. Leaves 24 as the difference. Rebel YT-1300 primary 3= 24 points of cost for game effect valuation.

Good thing you can't take 4 rebel YT-1300s. Cause four turrets with double digit hit points each on large bases with boost and 3 turns would just be silly, you know.

Yeah, not letting this one go. Went 4-0 with Freighter Four. All four ships still on the board at the end of 75 minute rounds. Only two half pointed in worst game for a grand total of... Wait for it.... 50 points. The other two games won handily. It's just filthy if flown right and engaging with just a passing knowledge of Lancer dial.

Jumpmaster salters, prepare to unite.

What did I just read?

1 minute ago, Icelom said:

What did I just read?

Agreed. Can we get some actual information as opposed to cutesy nicknames?

I think he means this?...

Freighter Captain (46)
Shield Upgrade (*)

Freighter Captain (46)
Shield Upgrade (*)

Freighter Captain (46)
Shield Upgrade (*)

Freighter Captain (46)
Shield Upgrade (*)

Total: 200

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3 minutes ago, mightyspacepope said:

Agreed. Can we get some actual information as opposed to cutesy nicknames?

No, it needs more! Make it totally insensible so that I may live my day peacefully oblivious to the true meaning of the original post...

Edit:

1 minute ago, gennataos said:

I think he means this?...

Freighter Captain (46)
Shield Upgrade (*)

Freighter Captain (46)
Shield Upgrade (*)

Freighter Captain (46)
Shield Upgrade (*)

Freighter Captain (46)
Shield Upgrade (*)

Total: 200

View in Yet Another Squad Builder 2.0

Dang it... Now my ignorance has been thwarted...

2 minutes ago, Icelom said:

What did I just read?

Translation: Pretty sure @Cloaker ran 4 Scum YT-1300's, probably bare. The new Falcon dial is very similar to the 1.0 Lancer dial, so easy transition from 1.0 Lancer to 2.0 Scum Falcon.

The other stuff? Extraneous.

A version I threw together quickly...

Freighter Captain (46)
4-LOM (3)

Freighter Captain (46)
BT-1 (2)

Freighter Captain (46)
Greedo (1)

Freighter Captain (46)
Latts Razzi (7)
0-0-0 (3)

Total: 200

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these are scum falcons? Folks actually gonna buy four of them?! Too costly for my blood. Looks fun though.

It wasn't fun to fly. Felt dirty and not in a scummy dirty way. So far, the only NPE I've seen in almost 40 2.0 games. That's a good sign, honestly.

But yeah, anyone with money to burn and half a mind can win with it, often.

13 minutes ago, PanchoX1 said:

these are scum falcons? Folks actually gonna buy four of them?! Too costly for my blood. Looks fun though.

No, no of course not. They are going to buy 4 scum falcons for the chits and tokens and then 4 rebel ones for a classic falcon look to their list.

It is a list that takes a Howlswarm at least 6 rounds to kill- that's a lot of beef to chew through.

The return firepower isnt all that spectatular, though.

30 minutes ago, Rakaydos said:

It is a list that takes a Howlswarm at least 6 rounds to kill- that's a lot of beef to chew through.

The return firepower isnt all that spectatular, though.

That was my initial impression, until I saw that 2 dice focused attacks are actually not as bad in 2.0. Probably averaged at least 8+ focused dice attacks a game too. It was weird. You know how video racing games have those ghost images for racing time trials? It was like having always having a Shadow Falcon nearby. It just happened to not be the one you expect. Crazy.

On the bright side, after you've bought Freighter Four, you now have enough Escape Craft for my Three Craft Monte list:

Han Solo (Scum) (54)
Trick Shot (1)
Boba Fett (0*)
GNK " Gonk " Droid (10)
Dengar (6)
Engine Upgrade (9)
Lando 's Millennium Falcon (6)

Outer Rim Pioneer (24)
GNK " Gonk " Droid (10)

L3-37 (Escape Craft) (22)
GNK " Gonk " Droid (10)

Lando Calrissian (Scum) (Escape Craft) (26)
GNK " Gonk " Droid (10)

Autopilot Drone (12)

Total: 200* 

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Oh, and Supernatural Vader HATES them.

10 minutes ago, Cloaker said:

Oh, and Supernatural Vader HATES them.

NOW you're just giving clickbait memes.

10 minutes ago, Rakaydos said:

NOW you're just giving clickbait memes.

I didn't even expect it. It just didn't wound up happening that way. Vader hated that his Force / ATC shenanigans were fruitless. He had to run and lost on points. It was kinda funny. Kinda.

1 hour ago, gennataos said:

I think he means this?...

Freighter Captain (46)
Shield Upgrade (*)

Freighter Captain (46)
Shield Upgrade (*)

Freighter Captain (46)
Shield Upgrade (*)

Freighter Captain (46)
Shield Upgrade (*)

Total: 200

View in Yet Another Squad Builder 2.0

You could even switch to Hull Upgrades instead of shield. Crits in 2.0 generally aren't as bad as they were in second edition, and the points you save could allow you to upgrade one pilot to Lando, or to add upgrades like Han Solo, BT-1, IG-88D, or Inertial Dampeners.

3 minutes ago, PhantomFO said:

You could even switch to Hull Upgrades instead of shield. Crits in 2.0 generally aren't as bad as they were in second edition , and the points you save could allow you to upgrade one pilot to Lando, or to add upgrades like Han Solo, BT-1, IG-88D, or Inertial Dampeners.

I'm guessing you mean 2.0 isn't as bad as 1.0? Have you played 2.0 games yet? Cuz I don't know anyone who's played 2.0 who agrees with that (until maybe now?).

12 minutes ago, gennataos said:

I'm guessing you mean 2.0 isn't as bad as 1.0? Have you played 2.0 games yet? Cuz I don't know anyone who's played 2.0 who agrees with that (until maybe now?).

Yah, when I took 6 damage from 3 dice I was rather sad...

Fuel leak after a hull breach sucks.

Well, if it is that good, expect to see the points value shifted upwards in one of the updates.

13 minutes ago, gennataos said:

I'm guessing you mean 2.0 isn't as bad as 1.0? Have you played 2.0 games yet? Cuz I don't know anyone who's played 2.0 who agrees with that (until maybe now?).

I have not played with the 2.0 damage deck yet, so I may have misread it.

Or I may just have a disproportionate hatred of the old Damaged Sensor Array crit, which would never fix itself no matter how many times I rolled for it.

6 minutes ago, PhantomFO said:

I have not played with the 2.0 damage deck yet, so I may have misread it.

Or I may just have a disproportionate hatred of the old Damaged Sensor Array crit, which would never fix itself no matter how many times I rolled for it.

The "roll for it" nonsense is gone, thankfully. But, man...crits seem to happen a LOT more often and they can cascade into crippling a ship so very quickly.

32 minutes ago, VanderLegion said:

Yah, when I took 6 damage from 3 dice I was rather sad...

Fuel leak after a hull breach sucks.

???

Fuel leak is just a weak direct hit.

Just now, HolySorcerer said:

???

Fuel leak is just a weak direct hit.

Not when you also have a hull breach, because that means that the HIT you take from Fuel Leak gets flipped up into a crit as well. Oh, and same for the HIT from Direct Hit. It's more about Hull Breach being painful than the fuel leak.

1 minute ago, gennataos said:

Not when you also have a hull breach, because that means that the HIT you take from Fuel Leak gets flipped up into a crit as well. Oh, and same for the HIT from Direct Hit. It's more about Hull Breach being painful than the fuel leak.   

Direct hit does the same thing with hull breach, only it does it instantly. Fuel leak is nothing special, its hull breach that's the real killer.