So here we go with this stuff again, possible leaks? Probable points?

By Velvetelvis, in X-Wing

Well, then...the reddit has exploded again.

This was found on mynocks facebook page.as a kylo player I'm not even sure what to think about this.

if it's a fake then I guess whatever. If it's real then " the people deserve to know " crowd seems to be at it again.

either way...le sigh.. image0.jpg

So we lost Quickdraw for a generic pilot, a generic pilot who is also in a /fo? Also, lol on that Kylo pricing, there is no way he is worth 102 points.

Edited by HolySorcerer

That's what I'm talking about. Although....he was normally flown at about that price point in 1st.

Interesting. Yeah, the Silencer Kylo pricing seems really steep. Is kind of cool that they get a Knight of Ren Pilot.

Sad and perplexed by the possible cutting of Quickdraw.

All in all, i’m kind of hoping this turns out to be an early WIP for the points and slots.

1 minute ago, Velvetelvis said:

That's what I'm talking about. Although....he was normally flown at about that price point in 1st.

Sure, but he had upgrades at that price point, and a better dial.

I understand the immediate reaction to the 90 point mark for Kylo Ren but what we don't know is his talent, how many force charges he has (my guess is 3) and in comparison his father is 92 as a baseline. It's a medium base as well.

Huh.

I was expecting more pilots. The Resistance and FO factions are really going to have severely limited options for a while.

Did a quick search TN-3465 on Wookieepedia. She’s from some issues of the Phasma comic, and was killed by Phasma to keep a secret. Seems to be more sympathetic to others than the usual FO member.

She seems like a character that i’m happy got into the game, but if she’s suppose to be a replacement for Quickdraw, I’m a little miffed. She doesn’t fit the mental image of what I imagined QD to be (personality-wise) at all.

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16 minutes ago, Cgriffith said:

I understand the immediate reaction to the 90 point mark for Kylo Ren but what we don't know is his talent, how many force charges he has (my guess is 3) and in comparison his father is 92 as a baseline. It's a medium base as well.

Supposedly the silencer is getting a resculpt to shrink it down to how big it looked in the film, so it will probably be small.

1 minute ago, SabineKey said:

Did a quick search TN-3465 on Wookieepedia. She’s from some issues of the Phasma comic, and was killed by to keep a secret. Seems to be more sympathetic to others than the usual FO member.

She seems like a character that i’m happy got into the game, but if she’s suppose to be a replacement for Quickdraw, I’m a little miffed. She doesn’t fit the mental image of what I imagined QD to be (personality-wise) at all.

True, but she’s the first “named” TIE/sf pilot we’ve gotten in a story! And I quite enjoyed the phasma comic. So I’m glad she’s in the game.

2 minutes ago, SabineKey said:

Did a quick search TN-3465 on Wookieepedia. She’s from some issues of the Phasma comic, and was killed by Phasma to keep a secret. Seems to be more sympathetic to others than the usual FO member.

She seems like a character that i’m happy got into the game, but if she’s suppose to be a replacement for Quickdraw, I’m a little miffed. She doesn’t fit the mental image of what I imagined QD to be (personality-wise) at all.

Okay, she's from a comic nobody read, I'm sure she was amazing in it, I just don't want to have to say "TN-3465" when talking about a pilot, that should be a subtitle at most, give us a real name!

I forgot about the resculpt thing. Hopefully I can still use the big one. Its pai ted quite nicely.

Although, until this grows as a faction I'm not sure i would play it much anyways.

Ah...who am I kidding. I'm totally in for a 150 point kylo.

3 minutes ago, Forgottenlore said:

Supposedly the silencer is getting a resculpt to shrink it down to how big it looked in the film, so it will probably be small.

If that is the case then it all depends on the dial, force charges and talent. He like any other force user will come at a premium

22 minutes ago, Cgriffith said:

I understand the immediate reaction to the 90 point mark for Kylo Ren but what we don't know is his talent, how many force charges he has (my guess is 3) and in comparison his father is 92 as a baseline. It's a medium base as well.

Kylo has two force charges on a small base ship that lost two of its blues.

9 minutes ago, HolySorcerer said:

I   just don't want to have to say "TN-3465"      whe  n  talking a  bout a pilo  t,

Tina

If FN-whatever gets named Finn, TN can be Tina (assuming she is, in fact, a girl).

And what if ISYTDS didn't change? That could be a good chunk of his pricing.

11 minutes ago, WAC47 said:

True, but she’s the first “named” TIE/sf pilot we’ve gotten in a story! And I quite enjoyed the phasma comic. So I’m glad she’s in the game.

I’m definitely glad she made it in. The little I gleaned from the wiki seemed like an interesting scenario I need to look in more fully. But still...I spent a lot of time with QD. And from how she played, a personality formed in my head.

Anyway, I’ll get over it. But I do agree, having a pilot from actual lore is nice.

12 minutes ago, HolySorcerer said:

Okay, she's from a comic nobody read, I'm sure she was amazing in it, I just don't want to have to say "TN-3465" when talking about a pilot, that should be a subtitle at most, give us a real name!

Well, she’ll have a subtitle that might be more acceptable. If not, I’m all for @Forgottenlore ‘s suggestion of Tina, in keeping with a previously established naming system.

4 minutes ago, Forgottenlore said:

Tina

If FN-whatever gets named Finn, TN can be Tina (assuming she is, in fact, a girl).

Your assumption is correct.

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ZERO bombs!?!?

**** this **** , I'm out

7 minutes ago, LHyoda said:

And what if ISYTDS didn't change? That could be a good chunk of his pricing.

It doesn't look like it's changed much, but the pilot crits aren't nearly as bad as they used to be. There is no blinded pilot or damaged cockpit anymore. Panicked pilot is kinda mean, but it's not even close to the old ones.

28 minutes ago, HolySorcerer said:

Okay, she's from a comic nobody read, I'm sure she was amazing in it, I just don't want to have to say "TN-3465" when talking about a pilot, that should be a subtitle at most, give us a real name!

Tn-3465 is her real name. Just as Finns was FN-something

Presuming it's true, yada yada.

TIE/fo looks really well priced at 27. An extra HP over a TIE/ln, but for only 4 points, plus a better dial and a TL action. That said, equivalents to Iden Versio and Howlrunner almost surely don't exist.

Hrm. TIE/sf at 5 points more than an X-Wing... feels high at first impression, just a little. Generic-with-talent really seems a lot higher than I'd expected, 6 points higher than the baseline Init 2. That's Wedge prices. I'm on record for liking how they adjusted the rear arc stuff (you can white-rotate linked off any action, and you have to set-up your choice of 3-dice forward, or 2 f/r with split fire), but that was contingent on them being reasonably priced.

TIE Silencer seems cheap in the generics, though. Either Sienar-Jaemus Analysts with Advanced Sensors and some sort of Tech upgrade (maybe Primed Thrusters?), or Knight of Ren, presuming they've got a single force point seem like they could be a solid enough squad. I find it interesting that only Kylo and Blackout can take the title.

2 minutes ago, RafaelNN said:

Tn-3465 is her real name. Just as Finns was FN-something

FN-2187

Princess Leia's cell block number from A New Hope; JJ Abrams said he did that on purpose.

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7 minutes ago, RafaelNN said:

Tn-3465 is her real name. Just as Finns was FN-something

Fine, her real name is stupid then, find something more tabletop friendly than a serial number, maybe something like "Quickdraw".

So FFG seems to think that a force token is worth about ten points, and I think that's played out here with Kylo being 23 points more than Blackout for the same I and ship. I'm really glad that FFG can change points now because I don't think it's worth that much, especially when virtually all force abilities require you to spend one of those tokens. I'm really doubting that any of the force pilots are going to end up in the meta, except maybe Luke but he has effectively infinite force.

The rest of the pricing actually looks pretty fair to me. OL going up 2 points from 1e in exchange for I6 sounds about right. There does seem to be a real lack of pilots though, especially for the TIE/fo which is getting a box. They needed to put out like 10 of them, not the 6 that we got. I wonder if 7 Zealots will actually be good.

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