Is this legal:
That the dial on the ship base is not on the mat?

36 minutes ago, Doppelganger said:

Is this legal:
That the dial on the ship base is not on the mat?

Yes.

Ship dials do NOT count for the purposes of overlapping the table edge.

Thats not only for deployment too - even in play. If the only part of a ship off the board is a shield dial - the ship is ON the board.

14 hours ago, Drasnighta said:

Yes.

Ship dials do NOT count for the purposes of overlapping the table edge.

Thats not only for deployment too - even in play. If the only part of a ship off the board is a shield dial - the ship is ON the board.

But is it within the deployment zone? ?

Ships must be placed within their player’s deployment zones.

A ship consists of a ship base, a ship model, a ship token, and a ship card.

Within: If the entirety of a base or token is inside a specified band, that component is within that band.

If any portion of a ship’s orsquadron’s base is outside the play area, that ship or squadron is destroyed. For this purpose, ignore activation sliders, shield dials, and the plastic portions of a ship’s base thatframe shield dials

So the ship wouldn't be out of the play area but wouldn't be within the deployment zone either.

That's my read on this but I could be missing something. I actually asked to ffg the same but about the inner deployment limit just a couple of days ago.

That’s the answer I got when I asked Years ago ?

10 hours ago, ovinomanc3r said:

Ships must be placed within their player’s deployment zones.

A ship consists of a ship base, a ship model, a ship token, and a ship card . 

So wait, do I have to put my ship card in the deployment zone? ?

52 minutes ago, Bertie Wooster said:

So wait, do I have to put my ship card in the deployment zone? ?

Wait! You didn't?

2 hours ago, ovinomanc3r said:

Wait! You didn't?

9 hours ago, Bertie Wooster said:

So wait, do I have to put my ship card in the deployment zone? ?

Technically speaking the deployment zone is distance 3 from the Edge so as Long as your cards arnt further then distance 3 off the board they should be ok

9 hours ago, Bertie Wooster said:

So wait, do I have to put my ship card in the deployment zone? ?

Ship card being the black piece of cardboard with arcs and armament on it.

53 minutes ago, Ginkapo said:

Ship card being the black piece of cardboard with arcs and armament on it.

That's technically the ship TOKEN.

3 hours ago, Ginkapo said:

Ship card being the black piece of cardboard with arcs and armament on it.

The RRG says the ship card is the one with the speed chart.

4 hours ago, clontroper5 said:

Technically speaking the deployment zone is distance 3 from the Edge so as Long as your cards arnt further then distance 3 off the board they should be ok

Problem solved!

You leave this unwatched convinced everything was said and done and then THIS happens!

7 hours ago, clontroper5 said:

Technically speaking the deployment zone is distance 3 from the Edge so as Long as your cards arnt further then distance 3 off the board they should be ok

A player’s deployment zone is the portion of the setup area that is within distance 1–3 of his edge of the play area.

The setup area is the region of the play area in which ships, squadrons, obstacle tokens, and objective tokens are placed during setup.

The play area is the shared space occupied by ships, squadrons, obstacle tokens and objective tokens. The recommended play area is 3' x 3' for the core set and 3' x 6' for a 300 fleet point game.

Technically no. ?

47 minutes ago, ovinomanc3r said:

Technically  no. ?

You going to pull that? ?

Next step ?

Find The Rules that override the fact that ship cards are not placed in the play area.

It is there. ?

19 minutes ago, Drasnighta said:

You going to pull that? ?

Next step ?

Find The Rules that override the fact that ship cards are not placed in the play area.

It is there. ?

OK. Now you made me look. Page 6 of RRG.

"When a ship is destroyed, remove it from the play area and place it next to the matching ship card."

Can we infer that if the destroyed ship is placed outside of the play area, the ship card must be outside of the play area as well?

3 minutes ago, Bertie Wooster said:

OK. Now you made me look. Page 6 of RRG.

"When a ship is destroyed, remove it from the play area and place it next to the matching ship card."

Can we infer that if the destroyed ship is placed outside of the play area, the ship card must be outside of the play area as well?

That’s part of it, but not the bit itself.

Keep looking. ?

1 hour ago, Drasnighta said:

You going to pull that? ?

Next step ?

Find The Rules that override the fact that ship cards are not placed in the play area.

It is there. ?

I guess it is in the LTP but I will check everything.

1 hour ago, Drasnighta said:

That’s part of it, but not the bit itself.

Keep looking. ?

Well, the LTP Setup Diagram (LTP, p. 24) shows the ship cards definitely NOT in the play area.

What's the point of all this?

RRG, p. 10

Unsurprisingly under "Setup":

2. snip Each player places his ships, squadrons, and cards next to the play area and near his edge. snip

Just now, Green Knight said:

What's  the point  of all this?

Education on looking at the bigger picture rather than just disparaging a seeming lack of rules.

6 minutes ago, Green Knight said:

What's the point of all this?

RRG, p. 10

Unsurprisingly under "Setup":

2. snip Each player places his ships, squadrons, and cards next to the play area and near his edge. snip

I already saw that but then you place the ship in the deployment area an it is defined with its card. I mean, I didn't start it. I would go with the clear distiction between ship and ship card but it is true that ship is defined in the rrg with ship model, base, token and card.

3 hours ago, Green Knight said:

What's the point of all this?

RRG, p. 10

Unsurprisingly under "Setup":

2. snip Each player places his ships, squadrons, and cards next to the play area and near his edge. snip

I started this rabbit trail mostly out of curiosity. I know that no one in their right mind puts their ship cards in the deployment zone, but then I wondered why , confused by the sentence "A ship consists of a ship base, a ship model, a ship token, and a ship card." That "ship card" part is still kind of confusing to me, but I'm convinced now that the ship cards definitely don't go in the play area.

I guess this rule will make it easy to determine where a super class star destroyer will be placed!