14 minutes ago, geek19 said:

When do fleets need to be in by? For our draft...

On 9/4/2018 at 8:32 AM, CaribbeanNinja said:

Fleets due Friday, September 14

Fleet Submission Form link:

https://goo.gl/forms/TLHFnPWLP8s1MqOB2

Thanks @CaribbeanNinja!

I'm new to Vassal tournaments so sorry if I've missed this somewhere but how does the format work in terms of:

• Window for agreeing time to play a match
• Saving of log files to keep a record of the match
• Time limits during the match
• Any other Vassal 'tournament' rules (e.g. when can you use measuring - are you able to put multiple range measures on simultaneously?)

Apologies if this is all 101 stuff but don't want to slow things down unnecessarily for my opponents.

6 minutes ago, Zamalekite said:

Thanks @CaribbeanNinja!

I'm new to Vassal tournaments so sorry if I've missed this somewhere but how does the format work in terms of:

• Window for agreeing time to play a match
• Saving of log files to keep a record of the match
• Time limits during the match
• Any other Vassal 'tournament' rules (e.g. when can you use measuring - are you able to put multiple range measures on simultaneously?)

Apologies if this is all 101 stuff but don't want to slow things down unnecessarily for my opponents.

I’ll let people fill in specifics, but generally (as I often rulez-guy the World Cup)

1) Windows will be specifies by the event, in, play games by x date. The rules for non games should also be provided.

2) One person at least should log, ideally, Dropbox is used to share it, but it’s not exclusively required as long as both players are agreeing on results - there’s often public witnesses anyway.

3) No time limits other than “try to be quick” - vassal does allow you to save and return after all.

4) Try to conform to normal rules - only one set of measuring at a time unless it’s extremely necessary - at least in the past, messing about with multiple measures at once and trying to undo/redo them was a great way to never be able to remove the selected measurement. ?

but that is jyay generalist advice - I repeat, I am **not** a registered or listed TO/Judge/Marshall for this event and have no official authority in this capacity ?

6 minutes ago, Zamalekite said:

Thanks @CaribbeanNinja!

I'm new to Vassal tournaments so sorry if I've missed this somewhere but how does the format work in terms of:

• Window for agreeing time to play a match
• Saving of log files to keep a record of the match
• Time limits during the match
• Any other Vassal 'tournament' rules (e.g. when can you use measuring - are you able to put multiple range measures on simultaneously?)

Apologies if this is all 101 stuff but don't want to slow things down unnecessarily for my opponents.

These are ALL great questions.

We have a lot of newcomers (heck yeah!) and we need to reiterate stuff that seems easy for the vets.

Window for agreeing time to play a match - You'll have about two weeks (I'll make sure to include two weekends) to schedule your match with your opponent. Usually, this helps in getting the games in. However, If you cannot find a time, I'll have to step in and make a ruling (Usually, 1 party has an unforeseen issue and forfeits the match)

Saving of log files to keep a record of the match - Not required, but awesome. Saving the log files of your matches really is like a little journal of love that you share with the community. I'll make a battle report thread soon where you can share your reports and logfiles. Usually a google drive or dropbox link are shared.

Time limits during the match - NONE! I will tell you that your first VASSAL games will be longer than IRL ones. Later, however, they are actually quicker due to not having to pick anything up or go to a store! @Ardaedheland I had an epic match that lasted...

Any other Vassal 'tournament' rules (e.g. when can you use measuring - are you able to put multiple range measures on simultaneously?) - You shouldn't really ever use two tools (nav and range bands for example). The module will actually clear bands when you bring up the nav tool for this reason. The only thing that is allowed is nudging your squads into the desired location, and this should be done QUICKLY.

RULE NUMBER ONE: Communicate with your opponent. If you have a question or ruling try to figure it out between the two of you or ask a friendly observer for help. I'll have judges that you can ping or you can ping me directly. Usually, though, you can decide this amongst yourselves. We haven't ever had an issue with any play in the past, so don't be THE GUY

Less talkie, moah pew pew!

1 minute ago, Green Knight said:

Less talkie, moah pew pew!

There are currently 44 fleet submissions (including duplicates).

Get them in so that GK can finish his first round game (he'll be the first one) and then start complaining about the 2nd round start time!

9 minutes ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

@Ardaedhel

Sry Ard.... can't untag you....

Any other Vassal 'tournament' rules (e.g. when can you use measuring - are you able to put multiple range measures on simultaneously?) - You shouldn't really ever use two tools (nav and range bands for example). The module will actually clear bands when you bring up the nav tool for this reason. The only thing that is allowed is nudging your squads into the desired location, and this should be done QUICKLY.

CN - to this effect, I personally really like the rule that was established by (I think it was GK?) that when moving squads you can have up to 2 range bands up. It greatly expedites the process since vassal is so stupidly precise (alternative is fliping bands back and forth a million times for each squad movement to make sure everything is range 1 there but not there etc etc.)

Ever since that tournament that has been my standard method of squad movement for vassal because it really really does make things profoundly more streamlined while still accounting for the "if you mess up by 1 pixel I'm gonna know" element of vassal.

40 minutes ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

There are currently 44 fleet submissions (including duplicates).

Get them in so that GK can finish his first round game (he'll be the first one) and then start complaining about the 2nd round start time!

Why is there even a second deadline?

Making a list is super easy!

15 minutes ago, BrobaFett said:

CN - to this effect, I personally really like the rule that was established by (I think it was GK?) that when moving squads you can have up to 2 range bands up. It greatly expedites the process since vassal is so stupidly precise (alternative is fliping bands back and forth a million times for each squad movement to make sure everything is range 1 there but not there etc etc.)

Ever since that tournament that has been my standard method of squad movement for vassal because it really really does make things profoundly more streamlined while still accounting for the "if you mess up by 1 pixel I'm gonna know" element of vassal.

As long as the two are part of the same squad movement and done for simplicity, I agree.

Just now, CaribbeanNinja said:

As long as the two are part of the same squad movement and done for simplicity, I agree.

Indeed thats the caveat, just like throwing up dis on the squad you are targeting + dis on the targ you are moving, or dis on the target you are avoiding etc.

20 minutes ago, BrobaFett said:

CN - to this effect, I personally really like the rule that was established by (I think it was GK?) that when moving squads you can have up to 2 range bands up. It greatly expedites the process since vassal is so stupidly precise (alternative is fliping bands back and forth a million times for each squad movement to make sure everything is range 1 there but not there etc etc.)

Ever since that tournament that has been my standard method of squad movement for vassal because it really really does make things profoundly more streamlined while still accounting for the "if you mess up by 1 pixel I'm gonna know" element of vassal.

Two range bands for squads is also nice in that you can quite quickly see "yea not possible" without taking 5 minutes and trying to remember which star the imaginary range band went to

Are me and @Aresiusbanned from top tier admirals then?

16 minutes ago, Ginkapo said:

Are me and @Aresiusbanned from top tier admirals then?

no you need all the help you can get

48 minutes ago, BrobaFett said:

no you need all the help you can get

I was falling on the sword for everyone here.... its not like I cant win with YVs anyway.

I have a fleet with a -26pt bid. Can I submit that?

Was palpatine legal for this tourney?

2 minutes ago, PodRacer said:

Was palpatine legal for this tourney?

No, only released product.

48 minutes ago, Ginkapo said:

I was falling on the sword for everyone here.... its not like I cant win with YVs anyway.

I have a fleet with a -26pt bid. Can I submit that?

Yes. But maybe consider submitting a different fleet after that

3 hours ago, Green Knight said:

Why is there even a second deadline?

Making a list is super easy!

I find it super hard.

Next time GK prepares lists for everyone in advance to speed things along.

1 hour ago, Ginkapo said:

I was falling on the sword for everyone here.... its not like I cant win with YVs anyway.

I have a fleet with a -26pt bid. Can I submit that?

Just make sure it's 26 so when I do 27 I still have 1st player

4 minutes ago, clontroper5 said:

Just make sure it's 26 so when I do 27 I still have 1st player

I think 50 is the best we’ve seen.

3 minutes ago, Drasnighta said:

I think 50 is the best we’ve seen.

I still claim Starting the Bidding Wars!! #Armada2016

5 minutes ago, Drasnighta said:

I think 50 is the best we’ve seen.

Probably the same sort of person who queues overnight at an Apple Store whenever a new iPhone is released

1 minute ago, Zamalekite said:

Probably the same sort of person who queues overnight at an Apple Store whenever a new iPhone is released

And writes 'first' on every YT vid

4 minutes ago, Doppelganger said:

And writes 'first' on every YT vid

Even though they are like 8th...

5 minutes ago, Zamalekite said:

Probably the same sort of person who queues overnight at an Apple Store whenever a new iPhone is released

I have a feeling it was @thecactusman17 after a list screwup, but I sincerely apologize if I a.m. misrepresenting someone...