I'm sure someone's asked this before but I flipped through a few pages and didn't see anything...

Are there any plans to release Hoth rebel troopers? I find it kinda odd that FF made Snowtroopers, the Snowtrooper E-Web Cannon, General Veers, the "snowspeeder", and the Rebel "dish cannon" (I can't recall it's actual name atm) but no rebel troopers in Hoth gear??? I know and have seen some people paint the standard rebel troopers to LOOK like Hoth rebel infantry but IMO it's not the same as having actual models with the appropriate cold-weather gear.

2 minutes ago, VOP2288 said:

I'm sure someone's asked this before but I flipped through a few pages and didn't see anything...

Are there any plans to release Hoth rebel troopers? I find it kinda odd that FF made Snowtroopers, the Snowtrooper E-Web Cannon, General Veers, the "snowspeeder", and the Rebel "dish cannon" (I can't recall it's actual name atm) but no rebel troopers in Hoth gear??? I know and have seen some people paint the standard rebel troopers to LOOK like Hoth rebel infantry but IMO it's not the same as having actual models with the appropriate cold-weather gear.

Give it time. It's certainly a safe bet that they will. I would guess that it will be before the CW drops

The rebels have long sleeves, gloves, and hats with ear flaps. I think that's what you're going to get for some time. They're designed to be highly customizable. "Snowtroopers" are "hostile environment troopers".

We might see it, but I don't think that there's going to be a lot of locale specific troops unless there is enough rule differentiation to support it. I for one would like to be able to field a relatively consistent army board to board.

1 hour ago, Brightguy said:

The rebels have long sleeves, gloves, and hats with ear flaps. I think that's what you're going to get for some time. They're designed to be highly customizable. "Snowtroopers" are "hostile environment troopers".

We might see it, but I don't think that there's going to be a lot of locale specific troops unless there is enough rule differentiation to support it. I for one would like to be able to field a relatively consistent army board to board.

Meh, go back and look at a picture of a standard rebel trooper and then look at a Hoth trooper - PLENTY of cosmetic differences.

Plus, with the release of the 1.4 FD cannon they now have sculpts for Hoth rebel troopers, so why not put out basic infantry with those sculpts too?? I do see your point though that they'd have to come up with Hoth trooper specific upgrades, weapons, abilities, etc to differentiate them from standard rebel infantry but I'm sure that wouldn't be too hard to do. Heck, even if they sold them with all the same cards and everything as regular troops I'd still buy them - I'm nitpicky like that I guess. If I'm gonna do a Hoth/cold world scenario I want my troops in cold-weather gear.

Over/under on how long it takes TauntaunScout to post in this thread?

2 hours tops.

16 minutes ago, FSD said:

Over/under on how long it takes TauntaunScout to post in this thread?

30 minutes ago, FSD said:

Over/under on how long it takes TauntaunScout to post in this thread?

That's kinda mean. It'll take at least 6 hours

I haven't seen a Star Wars game with ground based battle that hasn't included Echo Base Troopers.

So they will come out soon enough.

I think they could also use hoth troopers as the rebel equivalent of extreme environment troopers or maybe heavy troopers. Rogue one had a few guys wearing hoth gear on scary. I believe Sgt melshi had at least a hoth hat and gloves.

I expect that eventually both the rebels and the imps will get a third core option. Hoth troopers for the rebels, and some sort of mud trooper/imperial army trooper for the imps. Of course this is just speculation on my part, but I think fairly safe.

There is already an imperial naval infantry trooper in the new personnel box. Maybe that will be their third corps.

Sandtroopers. On dewbacks!

26 minutes ago, Shadow345 said:

Sandtroopers. On dewbacks!

Darn right!

Plus, they could do Hoth troopers on Tauntauns!!!

....also I kinda want an AT-AT....the model would be massive if done to scale with the infantry and it would probably cost like...$300+ but hey...they're putting the freaking Super Star Destroyer in Armada which is like...3 feet long. I'm curious how that thing is gonna move around when the standard battle-space is supposed to be 6x3.

A lot to cover here, in no particular order.

1) Yes eventually.

2) 11 hours. What was the pool up to?

3) I too hope Navy or Army troopers are the next corps Imperial option as they lend themselves to repainting as squads of Imperial-hired mercenaries.

4) To a certain extent I don't care if they release them. Teri Litorco's delightful painting guide deleted my initial hunger for "real" Hoth rebels. Hoth rebels in and of themselves are just something else to feel obligated to spend money on unless they coincide with tauntauns.

5) Dewbacks would cause me to actually care about my Imperial army again.

6) I've seen a game that barely included Echo Base troopers. It was D6. They provided ONE pose plus Han in Hoth gear... later on, a snowspeeder and a guy on a tauntaun were released. Not much to base an army on.

7) It all hinges on this question. "Could they be kept in-stock?" I can't build up my Hoth imperial army cause everyone is sold out of snowtroopers.

7b) Echo Base troops won't matter without some sort of Echo Base commanders.

Echo base troops would work, provided their ability wasn't just the same as the Snowtroopers.

Something referencing the trenches they manned?

I remember seeing a fat-barreled blaster in the Hoth trench scene. Shouldn't be impossible to make it the heavy option.

Unit should be defensive, not a snowtrooper clone.

2 hours ago, Indy_com said:

Echo base troops would work, provided their ability wasn't just the same as the Snowtroopers.

Their abilities could be identical to fleet troopers or snowtroopers and I'd still buy 3 of them... This is a miniature wargame. Appearances of units matter as much or more than stats to many, many people.

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Something referencing the trenches they manned?

Basing stats on snippets of film is what ultimately frayed D20 into utter madness. This isn't a boardgame or cardgame, anyone can "reflect" trenches by making them out of styrofoam and paint.

53 minutes ago, aniron said:

I remember seeing a fat-barreled blaster in the Hoth trench scene. Shouldn't be impossible to make it the heavy option.

Unit should be defensive, not a snowtrooper clone.

Not too worried about heavy options, FFG has been releasing those without much regard to what was seen in movies, they'll come up with something.

The entire imperial army is arguably defensive, so, that would also be a snowtrooper clone in a sense.

I don't want them to be a latest gimmick that fills a statistical novelty. Looking for something versatile hopefully. For my tauntaun cavalry regiment.

Don't see why they'd need to be different than regular rebel troopers, statistically. They're essentially just rebel troops wearing winter clothing.

12 minutes ago, Canuck7 said:

Don't see why they'd need to be different than regular rebel troopers, statistically. They're essentially just rebel troops wearing winter clothing.

Yeah I generally agree. But I get that people want something new though. I just don't want their stats to be all about being different from, or the counter to, unit X.

In many games they are simply better, more expensive, rebels. I could get on board with that. I don't like that rebels frequently outnumber Imperials in this game, it is contrary to the faux history of the GCW.

19 minutes ago, TauntaunScout said:

Their abilities could be identical to fleet troopers or snowtroopers and I'd still buy 3 of them... This is a miniature wargame. Appearances of units matter as much or more than stats to many, many people.

Basing stats on snippets of film is what ultimately frayed D20 into utter madness. This isn't a boardgame or cardgame, anyone can "reflect" trenches by making them out of styrofoam and paint.

By "reference the trenches" I meant something like "Discard a dodge token after moving to gain heavy cover until the end of the turn"

9 minutes ago, Indy_com said:

By "reference the trenches" I meant something like "Discard a dodge token after moving to gain heavy cover until the end of the turn"

That's a good idea for a mechanic but for like a camouflage ability or something.

Because it's a typical miniatures game, units can actually move into heavy cover. If that were applied to Echo Base troops they'd be saying "because they took cover in the movie, they don't need to take cover in the game" which is sort of the opposite of the intent. I'd give them a free rest action or free aim token if they are in cover or something.

Just now, TauntaunScout said:

I'd give them a free rest action or free aim token if they are in cover or something.

Free recover in when in cover would be pretty neat, since their "anti-armour/ion" exhaust weapon would be marginally better

31 minutes ago, Indy_com said:

Free recover in when in cover would be pretty neat, since their "anti-armour/ion" exhaust weapon would be marginally better

Yeah, reflecting their squad heavy weapon being designed to be setup semi-permanently in one spot.

A lot of people seem to despise anything that requires recovery but I don't. I find, especially towards the end of the turn, I have units with a leftover action that can't really be responsibly used, so may as well recover. Like you find yourself slightly out of range but in cover. You'd be mad to walk into range out in the open, and any dodge/aim tokens are liable to be discarded and not used.

19 hours ago, VOP2288 said:

I'm sure someone's asked this before but I flipped through a few pages and didn't see anything...

Are there any plans to release Hoth rebel troopers? I find it kinda odd that FF made Snowtroopers, the Snowtrooper E-Web Cannon, General Veers, the "snowspeeder", and the Rebel "dish cannon" (I can't recall it's actual name atm) but no rebel troopers in Hoth gear??? I know and have seen some people paint the standard rebel troopers to LOOK like Hoth rebel infantry but IMO it's not the same as having actual models with the appropriate cold-weather gear.

Honestly I think they're just spacing stuff out for marketing reasons.

How I would do hoth Rebels. Base rebel troopers. Swap nimble for low profile and unhindered. Maybe some key word that gives rerolls while in cover.