8 minutes ago, whafrog said:

What I don't get is why they can't make more games like KOTOR and Jedi Academy. I get these were written when everybody bought their game and now subscriptions are a thing, but they still made a LOT of money, people would eat it up.

Because everything is a hyper-cross-marketing campaign run by the one of the largest multinational corporations on the planet... and they haven't figured out how they can also sell you Star Wars toys and a Star Wars board game with a Star Wars video game. At least with Star Wars comics and Star Wars novels, they can stick ads in the back.

11 minutes ago, whafrog said:

What I don't get is why they can't make more games like KOTOR and Jedi Academy. I get these were written when everybody bought their game and now subscriptions are a thing, but they still made a LOT of money, people would eat it up.

Dunno about KOTOR but going back 900 years with Yoda as a Padawan would be a good path to a big ol IP reset. Bring in some actual writers instead of the directors and producers who think they're writers...

I'm loving all the star wars comics being released by marvel. Haven't really been disappointed yet.

1 hour ago, 2P51 said:

Dunno about KOTOR but going back 900 years with Yoda as a Padawan would be a good path to a big ol IP reset.

Speaking of Yoda...total thread derail...

My recent campaign with my son was set back then: his character, after many perilous adventures, finds an egg which eventually hatches and out pops baby Yoda. The PC isn't a Knight yet, but he will be soon, and eventually he'll get Yoda as a Padawan.

Then, I was watching Rebels S4 last night, and noticed (again) the little Yoda figure in the Lothal cave paintings...it seems to suggest that the whole Lothal temple and future was set when Yoda paid the place a visit, and maybe set up the gateways between space and time.

Lightbulb! That's my next campaign. The PC and his new Padawan will eventually find themselves on Lothal (which may be unnamed at that point). The cave paintings only show Yoda, so it might be a good heroic out for my son's PC as he saves his Padawan in the name of "hope". If I do it right it could be epic, with a nice tie-in to the current story.

...and now back to the whine-fest...

1 hour ago, whafrog said:

My  recent campaign with my son was set back then: his character, after many perilous adventures, finds an egg which eventually hatches and out pops baby  Yoda. The PC isn't a Knight yet, but he will be soon, and eventually he'll get Yoda as a Padawan.

You have N’Kata Del Gormo as a PC?

What Disney needs to do is talk to their people at Marvel, and take a few pointers. Make a "Star Wars Cinematic Universe", where everything is linked, and builds off each other. And plan out what you are going to do.

I guess it's a matter of opinion.

I really liked Rogue One. Other people on here hated it.

I didn't see the alleged sequels or Solo, nor will I. There are still only four Star Wars movies; with some heavy editing I could make one decent movie by cutting up 2 and 3 (there is no epicsukk one, "All Hope No Hope"). Other posters on here love the sequels.

The Darth Vader comics are very enjoyable, IMO, as are the "The Empire" comics. I've got the final trade paperbacks in each series on the way from Amazon right now. At least, I'm *pretty* sure they're the final ones. If not, no biggie I'll just place another order. I'll be ordering some more of the models to build soon anyway, so why not. And more books as they are released.

If someone isn't in to comics, they probably would disagree with me about the above.

I don't really read Star Wars books. I got really sick of the only people in the Galaxy who could do anything all being named Skywalker. Or there being Jedi, dark Jedi, or Sith jumping out from around every corner. Mary Sue and her brother Marty characters. Et cetera. Oh and the Yuzong Veng or whatever they are.... ugh.

And I'm sure that there are people who absolutely *love* the books.

Different strokes and whatnot.

I'd like to see more content that goes similarly to Rogue One, and a lot less that goes the way of Solo or the alleged sequels. I think what I liked best about Rogue One is there were no Skywalker's and Jinn wasn't tripping over a Jedi every time she turned around. And even though she could hold her own in a fight, she wasn't an over lowered Mary Sue. AND they explained why she was as bad as she was (Saw Guerrera being responsible for her training).

Regardless of which direction they go, Disney won't stop cranking out content until they've completely drained every penny of profit from this cash cow. And let's face it, there are plenty of people who will buy ANYTHING that has Star Wars on it. The only question that remains, I think, is at what point do they stop turning a profit because the content was so poor that the diehard "Buy Anything Star Wars!" crowd wasn't big enough to get whatever was created out of the red?

Time will tell.

I do hope that before the franchise dies, they produce a lot more movies like Rogue One, comics like Darth Vader, and video games like Republic Commando, Empire at War, or Rogue Squadron (1 and 2 only....3 was abysmal). I bought a Game Cube a year or two ago *just* so I could play Rogue Leader again. I haven't bothered with Battleground since the day I bought it. It was bad, really bad, but I thought maybe it would be fun to play drunk (Shadows of the Empire and MarioKart 64 are a blast when you're drunk). A bottle of Everclear and a couple of Rock Stars later, it still sucked, and hasn't been played since. I think I heard something about another one coming out but the first one was so bad I couldn't be bothered to find out. Maybe I'll see if the original PS2/XBox game is on Steam or something.

Maybe we'll all win, and Disney will make movies, games, etc, that I like *and* movies that fans of the alleged sequels, Battleground, and books will like. That's a nice thought.

Imo most of the new stuff has been good. TFA was good. R1 was awesome. TLJ was decent, there are parts of that movie that aren't great but the main storyline (Rey/Kylo/Luke) was great. I'm glad Snoke is gone.

Solo was good as well. I can't believe people didn't watch it. It's like the biggest fan service movie Disney has done. (But hey starwars is always about commenting on how bad a movie is even though you havent watched it, right?)

I've read most of the new books. All of them have been decent. With a few standouts (lost stars/thrawn)

The comics are great. All of those have been done well.

I'd say starwars is as good as it ever was. People didn't like the prequels and now people worship them and scream for that eras content.

I'm pumped we are getting new stuff people just need to stop being so **** about everything from this magical made up universe.

But yes FFG put decent stuff out to.

44 minutes ago, Edgookin said:

What Disney needs to do is talk to their people at Marvel, and take a few pointers. Make a "Star Wars Cinematic Universe", where everything is linked, and builds off each other. And plan out what you are going to do.

Why? We already have Guardians of the Galaxy. Or at least we did until the "pedo-friendly but totally joking" stuff came up.

I mean, I really liked TLJ, personally. And I thought TFA was better on second viewing, after being disappointed initially. Haven't really dived into the books, although did try Aftermath and struggled with it. FFG's stuff is fine, although TBH the more I play the less I'm actually using the published material.

In short, I kind of feel like your question is a bit meaningless. Because all this stuff is subjective...

2 hours ago, edwardavern said:

I mean, I really liked TLJ, personally. And I thought TFA was better on second viewing, after being disappointed initially. Haven't really dived into the books, although did try Aftermath and struggled with it. FFG's stuff is fine, although TBH the more I play the less I'm actually using the published material.

In short, I kind of feel like your question is a bit meaningless. Because all this stuff is subjective...

And reeks of trolling. Or at least sparking a flame war.

12 hours ago, HappyDaze said:

Why? We already have Guardians of the Galaxy. Or at least we did until the "pedo-friendly but totally joking" stuff came up.

Apparently Disney was worried about losing ticket sales to actual convicted-rapists-who-plead-down-to-battery and make bad faith arguments along with posting pro-assaulting-women tweets. But that's the world we live in now.

Rumor has it that Disney and Gunn are engaging in backroom negotiations but if that falls through Taika Waititi can always do it. He has the same sense of humor.

13 hours ago, Edgookin said:

What Disney needs to do is talk to their people at Marvel, and take a few pointers. Make a "Star Wars Cinematic Universe", where everything is linked, and builds off each other. And plan out what you are going to do.

My heart tells me that would be awesome but my head tells me it wouldn't work out the way we want it to. And, speaking of someone who read Marvel comics for 30 years, the MCU is kind of boring. Every movie looks the same, has the exact same plot beats, and only seems to be an advertisement for the next movie. I don't want TV directors directing blockbuster movies, I want movie directors directing blockbuster movies.

I'm okay with one Star Wars movie having a different look from another Star Wars movie. I'd rather Star Wars be a setting that different directors with different tastes can play in and one in which they don't have to worry about tripping over each other. Want to do a couple of movies in the era of the Old Republic? Cool, do that. Want to do a standalone story about a fighter pilot who survives the Battle of Endor and goes on to become a farmer who gets hassled by gangsters and has to break heads to protect his family? Do that.

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And reeks of trolling. Or at least sparking a flame war.

Talking about Star Wars on the Internet is like rolling gasoline into a fireworks factory.

34 minutes ago, Concise Locket said:

I'm okay with one Star Wars movie having a different look from another Star Wars movie. I'd rather Star Wars be a setting that different directors with different tastes can play in and one in which they don't have to worry about tripping over each other. Want to do a couple of movies in the era of the Old Republic? Cool, do that. Want to do a standalone story about a fighter pilot who survives the Battle of Endor and goes on to become a farmer who gets hassled by gangsters and has to break heads to protect his family? Do that.

If the novels are any indication, differences from author to author create a lot of friction among many Star Wars fans. I'm willing to give most any of them a try--I recently found a Karen Travis novel at a used bookstore for $1 and said, "what the heck, let's give it a try" (but it's really not good...)--but that's a fading point of view. The focus of so many on having everything be canon and the associated One True Way believers among fans say that your views on this are very much in the minority. That's not a bad place to be on a personal level, but that's not where Disney is looking to make their $.

39 minutes ago, Concise Locket said:

Rumor has it that Disney and Gunn are engaging in backroom negotiations

I know that the first round of them fell through .

On 8/29/2018 at 6:28 AM, 2P51 said:

We have precisely zero confirmation, announcements and teasers for anything past 9 as of right now, call it a pause or a lack of information, tomato tomatoe imo, same F-ing thing. 

What happened to the announcement of the Boba Fett film with director James Mangold (of Logan) attached?

Apologies... Double post.

I've been keeping up with most of the new canon in books and novels, only skipping the junior stuff really. Of course some are more enjoyable than others, and I tend to enjoy the ones our esteemed forumgoers do not like, so I guess my point is that there's always more to consume if you are not liking some of it. Some of it's great for fan service and filing in caps, others are just great ideas.

9 hours ago, themensch said:

I've been keeping up with most of the new canon in books and novels, only skipping the junior stuff really. Of course some are more enjoyable than others, and I tend to enjoy the ones our esteemed forumgoers do not like, so I guess my point is that there's always more to consume if you are not liking some of it. Some of it's great for fan service and filing in caps, others are just great ideas.

Any recommendations themensch?

I’ve just finished the Inferno Squad one which was ok & have picked up Canto Bight but not started as yet.

Cheers ?

Funny thing. . . everyone complained because TFA was too much like a remake of ANH, then everyone complained because TLJ went in a totally different direction and did it's own, completely different thing.

I'd agree that the writing on the new trilogy could be a little tighter, they could have had the story all planned out in advance, but I'm fairly content with the movies we've gotten, and I haven't regretted seeing any of them in the theater.

On the novel side of things, we're getting some good ones. Zahn is back doing Thrawn books, which are good, and a few of the others I've read I've been good, too. Only one was bothersome to me (so bothersome I didn't even finish it), but it was apparently a Legends book that had to be reworked into a new canon book, and Legends was notoriously hit-or-miss. Haven't checked out any of the comics, but I should.

There was a rumor floating around that Disney was considering pulling EA's license for Star Wars games because it's not going as well as they wanted it to. The gist was that Disney gave the license to EA wholesale because, being a big game studio, they could pump out lots of Star Wars games. In five years, we've gotten. . . three. Allegedly, Disney even invited EA people to the set for the Star Wars movies, to gather data for any tie-in games they wanted to make, and EA just said "ah, no thanks." The microtransaction lootbox debacles haven't helped, either, and that's what EA wants as their business model since that's what makes the most money. I haven't heard anything new on this in ages, and there's a part of me that would really like someone else to start making Star Wars video games, branching out beyond multiplayer shooters. Though that would also probably mean Star Wars: The Old Republic gets shut down, which would make me very, very sad.

But yeah, on the whole, Star Wars isn't quite the media juggernaut its been in the past, with new novels, games, comics, toys, etc. popping up like weeds every time you turn around. Charitably, one could say Disney wants quality over quantity. Less charitably, one could say they've made some major misjudgements about who can utilize these licenses effectively.

8 hours ago, AceSolo5 said:

Any recommendations themensch?

I’ve just finished the Inferno Squad one which was ok & have picked up Canto Bight but not started as yet.

Cheers ?

Oh geez, that's a tough call!

For the com...er, graphic novels, I have a hard time picking a favorite but I do enjoy the ongoing Darth Vader series and the short C3PO one was stellar. For the books, that's equally tough. I come into it not expecting to be blown away and that has suited me well. I like how things tie things together and I can often overlook foibles. I haven't done Inferno Squad yet but I did like Canto Bight all right - it really does flesh it out well enough to set a game there. Were I to recommend any of the books to start it would be Darth Plagueis as that one profoundly changed the way I view all of Star Wars lore. It even made me appreciate The Phantom Menace!

34 minutes ago, themensch said:

Oh geez, that's a tough call!

For the com...er, graphic novels, I have a hard time picking a favorite but I do enjoy the ongoing Darth Vader series and the short C3PO one was stellar. For the books, that's equally tough. I come into it not expecting to be blown away and that has suited me well. I like how things tie things together and I can often overlook foibles. I haven't done Inferno Squad yet but I did like Canto Bight all right - it really does flesh it out well enough to set a game there. Were I to recommend any of the books to start it would be Darth Plagueis as that one profoundly changed the way I view all of Star Wars lore. It even made me appreciate The Phantom Menace!

I’ve been catching up on new canon via the audiobooks. Just a small handful still unlistened at this point. Just finished Last Shot yesterday. Canto Bight is probably up next.

One minor point, since the book talk had been about the new canon: Darth Plagueis is a Legends book, so may or may not “fit” anymore.

18 minutes ago, Nytwyng said:

I’ve been catching up on new canon via the audiobooks. Just a small handful still unlistened at this point. Just finished Last Shot yesterday. Canto Bight is probably up next.

One minor point, since the book talk had been about the new canon: Darth Plagueis is a Legends book, so may or may not “fit” anymore.

Oh snap, it didn't make that cut, did it? Still good though.

Yeah I too keep up using audio books - who has time to sit around and read, anyway? They are fantastic even if the voice actors are usually the same which can lead to character confusion for me.

1 hour ago, themensch said:

Oh snap, it didn't make that cut, did it? Still good though.

Yeah I too keep up using audio books - who has time to sit around and read, anyway? They are fantastic even if the voice actors are usually the same which can lead to character confusion for me.

I haven’t read/listened to it yet. In fact, I haven’t been able to track down a copy of the hardback at a reasonable price.

Is the audiobook abridged or unabridged?

And I’m right there with you on lack of time to sit and read. While I’ve been reading the physical copy of Outbound Flight, I’ve also listened to Aftermath: Empire’s End, Thrawn, Thrawn: Alliances, Last Shot, and maybe one more.

Meanwhile. I’m still only about 1/3 through Outbound Flight. ?

5 minutes ago, Nytwyng said:

I haven’t read/listened to it yet. In fact, I haven’t been able to track down a copy of the hardback at a reasonable price.

Is the audiobook abridged or unabridged?

Unabridged via audible, unsure about other sources.