Rank the Disney-era Star Wars Films

By FTS Gecko, in X-Wing Off-Topic

1 - Rogue One
2 - Solo
3 - The Force Awakens
4 - the Last Jedi

Rogue One is without a doubt my personal favourite for a number of reasons. Firstly, in my opinion it fits perfectly alongside the Original Trilogy, leading directly into the events of A New Hope. It gives us one of the best space battles in the franchise, the best new original starfighter designs in the U-Wing and Striker and some really outstanding character designs (pretty much everyone on Jeddha). I'm a huge fan of Krennic as a villain as well.

Solo's up next, mostly due to the fact that it sidesteps the traditional Rebellion/Empire conflict and gives us a look into the seedier underbelly of the galaxy.

R1=8>7>solo

I really like all of them.

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1. Rogue One

2. TFA

3. TLJ

I haven't watched Solo to rank it.

1) Rogue One. Great action, characters I got invested in, and the best Vader scene every. It also introduced ideas like the Guardians of the Whills that I hope more is done with. Personal Score: 9.0

2) Force Awakens. I know it is a bit of a re-tread, but to me it’s like a good cover or remix of a favorite song. A new take on something classic. Personal Score: 8.5

3) Solo. I didn’t go into Solo with much expectations, so was pleasantly surprised by a fun adventure in the seedier underside of the Star Wars Universe. Some good performances and set pieces made it an enjoyable film. Personal Score: 8

4) The Last Jedi. While I am in the camp that likes TLJ and the story it is trying to tell, it’s got some problems in execution and B story decisions. Still, the highs out weigh the lows for me. Personal Score: 7.4

1. Rogue One - The main lead is boring but K2, Baze and Chirruit are cool and the last act was real fun.

2. TFA - While a fair bit of it is a retread of ANH, lacks much world building, and I don't like how they treated the OT characters it was fairly decent, had good action sequences, and relatively likeable characters.

3. Solo - Maybe it might change if I saw it again, but it felt boring for the most part in the theater. I was left fairly neutral on it.

4. TLJ - Don't like how they treated Luke, among many other points some critical some nitpicky. That and it clearly showed that the ST trilogy wasn't remotely planned out or that they obviously gave Rian Johnson far too much freedom to do whatever he liked. Probably the only Disney era film so far that I actually highly dislike/hate.

In before this becomes a dumpster fire... and of course it will...

  1. Rogue One - the first act jumped around a bit much to follow on the first pass, and I'll bet it lost a lot of non-Star Wars fans... but I enjoyed the second and third acts a lot.
  2. Solo - yet to re-watch though, so adjustments may follow. An interesting tale.
  3. TFA - It was fun. I had some serious concerns on how the storylines were being told and the holes that were left. I don't need everything spelled out for me, but I would like some sort of reaction from surrounding characters when somebody does something unbelievable... Too much freedom with writer/director combo. Didn't like how they setup Luke to be running off and hiding some place because of his failure, the flashy special effects for the sake of effects (Poe flying scene, splashing 10 fighters was a bit much, thanks... two would have been sufficient, really!) and some of the gaps in Rey... Luke claims to be a pilot several times during the initial ANH film... Rey... doesn't... In books she's a spaceship nut who spends time in the mechanics of them, and lots of time in simulators... that's not even touched on in the movie so people are left to assume it's some kind of latent force talent...
  4. TLJ - fun BUT many of the same complaints as TFA, really. With the additional that it shows that there isn't a story arc planned at all.

1) Solo: legit good crime caper that happens to take place in Star Wars

2) TLJ: Bold, experimental, and challenging

3) TFA: A feel-good nostalgia romp

4) Rogue One: Aesthetically right on, but really terrible characters and "look what we can do" razzle dazzle Tarkin was distracting, unnecessary, and tasteless. Doing the exact same gimmick with Leia was just ludicrous.

12 minutes ago, Sekac said:

4) Rogue One: Aesthetically right on, but really terrible characters and "look what we can do" razzle dazzle Tarkin was distracting, unnecessary, and tasteless. Doing the exact same gimmick with Leia was just ludicrous.

I actually didn't really mind Tarkin, though the Leia at the end was very much uncanny valley. They should of had Leia only shown from the back, or from the profile if they needed to see her face.

1- The Last Jedi

2-The Force Awakens

I personnally really love the Sequel Trilogy, all the new characters and what it brings to the Star Wars universe. It really resonate and connect with me. I also love that they didn't take the easy road and go for the fan service, but instead took the franchise in an unexpected direction. Can't wait to see how it will all end and what it will means for the Star Wars universe.

3-Rogue One

I loved Rogue One, but felt like the ending was rushed. We knew from the begining that they would all die, but since I didn't had the time to get invested in the characters, I didn't really care to see them all die. It felt like they were just following a checklist about who's gonna die next. My personnal opinion is that they should not have made a space battle and instead take the time to flesh out the characters a little bit more. Still a great movie.

4-Solo

Another good movie, but I don't think there is something memorable from it. It was a good summer movie, I'll rewatch it once it comes out on Blu-Ray, but I don't think I'll revisit it very often.

9 minutes ago, Animewarsdude said:

I actually didn't really mind Tarkin, though the Leia at the end was very much uncanny valley. They should of had Leia only shown from the back, or from the profile if they needed to see her face.

Pretty much my opinion.

Tarkin was a good addition to the story and it made sense. Leia though, they didn't had to show her face.

1) Rogue One - The Dirty Dozen in Star Wars, what's not to love? I think being killed by the Death Star at the end was a little unnecessary, as the original audio story had them all being gunned down and the plans being entrusted to Leia's care by one of the spies as they lay dying (a bit morbid, also not as showy, I suppose).

2) The Force Awakens - Yes it was a A New Hope clone, but I enjoyed (some of) the characters and T-70s. Who doesn't like T-70s?

3) The Last Jedi - Had its issues to be sure, and deviated from what I think they had planned, but still by no means a bad movie.

4) Solo - Again not a bad movie, but felt a little more like Young Indiana Jones in space for me. Loved the surprise cameos, though!

15 minutes ago, Animewarsdude said:

I actually didn't really mind Tarkin, though the Leia at the end was very much uncanny valley. They should of had Leia only shown from the back, or from the profile if they needed to see her face.

I was perfectly fine with the addition of Tarkin, and loved the dynamic between him and Krennic. The Empire in all it's politicking and backstabbing glory. Plus far from being tasteless, I'm sure that if anyone would approve of making an appearance from beyond the grave, it would be Peter Cushing.

The Tarkin/Krennic rivalry may have been a foregone conclusion, but seeing it play out is what helped make Krennic such a compelling character for me (well, that and Ben Mendelsohn's sneering performance). Krennic surrounded himself with the trappings of success - the uniform, the cape, the private shuttle, the personal guard - but he was shown to be deeply insecure. Instead it was the quietly confident, understated calm of Tarkin that took advantage.

13 minutes ago, Stryker359 said:

2) The Force Awakens - Yes it was a A New Hope clone, but I enjoyed (some of) the characters and T-70s. Who doesn't like T-70s?

While on the one hand I would love to have seen more of a design step between the OT and ST like we did with the PT to OT I think the T-70 is far better of a step up than the Legends keeping the T-65 but them giving it variants to keep it relevant ala the XJ variant.

24 minutes ago, Animewarsdude said:

While on the one hand I would love to have seen more of a design step between the OT and ST like we did with the PT to OT I think the T-70 is far better of a step up than the Legends keeping the T-65 but them giving it variants to keep it relevant ala the XJ variant.

Agreed. Though I am a big fan of the XJ-series in the Legends continuity (StealthX ftw!), the T-70 was an obvious upgrade and an actual new ship. The way it was designed and looked like the original McQuarrie concept art was pretty nice, too. Plus the nod to Legends by having the T-70 being a Incom/FreiTek (who made the E-Wing) design was also pretty cool.

1 minute ago, Stryker359 said:

Agreed. Though I am a big fan of the XJ-series in the Legends continuity (StealthX ftw!), the T-70 was an obvious upgrade and an actual new ship. The way it was designed and looked like the original McQuarrie concept art was pretty nice, too. Plus the nod to Legends by having the T-70 being a Incom/FreiTek (who made the E-Wing) design was also pretty cool.

Well if you are a fan of the Stealth X then I recommend Mel's version if you ever want to fly one in X-Wing. I mean, I understand why the authors didn't want to replace the X-Wing, they wanted to be able to write using the iconic ship in their works but it really did seem to be something that should have been updated and honestly I do like the design. I'm more curious to see the T-85, really sort of hoping it will be the PT to OT style jump between the ARC-170 to T-65, though it might not be that drastic since it is part of the same line 'X-Wing'.

StealthX (1/270) 3d printed

1 minute ago, Animewarsdude said:

Well if you are a fan of the Stealth X then I recommend Mel's version if you ever want to fly one in X-Wing. I mean, I understand why the authors didn't want to replace the X-Wing, they wanted to be able to write using the iconic ship in their works but it really did seem to be something that should have been updated and honestly I do like the design. I'm more curious to see the T-85, really sort of hoping it will be the PT to OT style jump between the ARC-170 to T-65, though it might not be that drastic since it is part of the same line 'X-Wing'.

StealthX (1/270) 3d printed

The most common "StealthX" model (i.e. the one you've shown) doesn't fit with what the authors specified - it's supposed to be all odd angles and shrouded engines (F-117 in space), while most of the 3D modellers have done something that looks so rounded off it wouldn't be out of place sitting next to the USS Enterprise.

Regarding the T-85, Wookiepedia states that the entire New Republic fleet was sitting above Hosnian when it had its little accident, which means there likely won't be any more. From an aesthetic point of view, I believe it's meant to be something like 90% similar to the T-70. That said, I'd love to see what the artists come up with.

1 hour ago, FTS Gecko said:

I was perfectly fine with      the addition of Tarkin, and loved the dynamic between him and Krennic. The Empire in all it's politicking and ba  ckstabbing  glory   .

The dynamic was fine, choosing his political rival to be a dead actor was completely unnecessary. There is no reason it needed to be Tarkin. Especially because ANH made Tarkin appear to be firmly in charge of the death star, not that he had consolidated power mere hours before. I appreciate the attempt to sync the 2 movies up, but that didn't fit well.

1 hour ago, FTS Gecko said:

Plus  far from being tasteless, I'  m  sure that if    anyone would  approve of making an appearance   from beyond the grave, it would be Peter Cushing      . 

If the only thing that takes it from tasteless to far from tasteless is an assumption about how a dead person would feel about their likeness being used without their permission, then I suppose it's "far" from it. But without guesswork, it is very tasteless.

49 minutes ago, Stryker359 said:

Regarding the T-85, Wookiepedia states that the entire New Republic fleet was sitting above Hosnian when it had its little accident, which means there likely won't be any more. From an aesthetic point of view, I believe it's meant to be something like 90% similar to the T-70. That said, I'd love to see what the artists come up with.

Which is a bit stupid, but at the same point nothing says that there weren't some around either being produced in a factory, unless the new canon wants to say the capital built all its ships and kept them exclusively in orbit, or that some were off world getting maintenance work or on patrol.

10 minutes ago, Sekac said:

If the only thing that takes it from tasteless to far from tasteless is an assumption about how a dead person would feel about their likeness being used without their permission, then I suppose it's "far" from it. But without guesswork, it is very tasteless.

Not the same thing but they did at least get permission from his family to use his appearance in the film.

27 minutes ago, Sekac said:

If the only thing that takes it from tasteless to far from tasteless is an assumption about how a dead person would feel about their likeness being used without their permission, then I suppose it's "far" from it. But without guesswork, it is very tasteless.

I assume you object to the use of Tarkin in Rebels (and potentially Leia in The Resistance) for the same reason then? Or actors who assume the likeness of another person for a biopic, like Gary Oldman as Winston Churchill?

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7 minutes ago, FTS Gecko said:

I assume you object to the use of Tarkin in Rebels (and potentially Leia in The Resistance) for the same reason then? Or actors who assume the likeness of another person for a biopic, like Gary Oldman in Churchill?

No, not like those. Neither are an attempt to make it look like a dead actor played a role he never played.

Do you seriously not get that?

It's actually like using Frank Sinatra to dance with a vacuum cleaner in a commercial and saying "he's probably cool with it."

Rogue One is #1 by a lot.

TLJ would be #2 because the plot and designs were more original than TFA.

TFA is #3 because of above. I feel it has more action and is more fun than TLJ though. Definetly a missed opportunity.

Solo I've only seen once so can't judge yet. It could be anywhere from 2-4.

Can't rank Solo, yet, I've only seen it once and was so suprised by its merits that I would probably overrate it as my favourite.

Of the others, I like TFA best as it is the most consistent movie in tone, aesthetics, and entertainment value. Very strong start and the dip in the middle isn't too bad, and while the finale is stupid with yet another sphere of death, it still manages to tie the movie up nicely.

Then TLJ, because it has much stronger characters than...

Rogue One. Both movies are pretty inconsistent in quality, R1 in pacing and TLJ in tone. R1s finale is spectacular, but it would be much more so if I were invested in the characters on any level. Aweful first two acts that are only worth it for the looks (two-tubes are the best aliens new to star wars). TLJ is a great movie that forgot to turn of the annoying comedy side-track. Not that all the humor is a miss, I love Lukes first lesson with Rey for example, but quiet moments could use more breathing room. TLJ has U-55 loadlifters, which are cuddely cute baby-GR-75s and therefor make everything 10 times better. 10/10 screw prog plushs, give me a loadlifter plush please.

Rogue One is my favorite followed by Solo.

On 8/28/2018 at 12:04 PM, Animewarsdude said:

Which is a bit stupid, but at the same point nothing says that there weren't some around either being produced in a factory, unless the new canon wants to say the capital built all its ships and kept them exclusively in orbit, or that some were off world getting maintenance work or on patrol.

The new canon compartmentalizes the galaxy just way too **** much. The 1st Order just blew up 5 planets and the rest of the galaxy just doesn't care? There should be a huge resistance.

3 hours ago, Jo Jo said:

The new canon compartmentalizes the galaxy just way too **** much. The 1st Order just blew up 5 planets and the rest of the galaxy just doesn't care? There should be a huge resistance.

There may be, but so far only a couple of days have passed since those 5 planets were destroyed, along with the bulk of the New Republic military.

It wouldn't make much sense if there was already a major resistance effort a few days after getting blindsided.

On 8/28/2018 at 11:51 AM, Red Castle said:

Pretty much my opinion.

Tarkin was a good addition to the story and it made sense. Leia though, they didn't had to show her face.

Tbh that scene beforehand was sooo brutal. I think they needed something lighter there.