How many miniture expansions to reach the deploy cap

By Fulgrims, in Imperial Assault Skirmish

Hello,

I was wondering if anyone got a list of the ammount of blisters required for a full collection for skirmish - i'm not so much intrested in meta/what's usefull (most are, i have been unable to find a clear answer to my question due to that) as i am intrested in completing a full collection to reach the potential cap for any given unit.

So to get to the point - how much of each miniture expansion should i get to cover:
-Replace each token with a mini
-Have 4 deployment card for any regular unit
-Have 2 deployment card for any elite unit
-Have enough minis to cover each potential deployment

Is there a need to get any of the big boxes twice to fill those reuirements?

I'll list here the expansions i'm most intrested into, as sadly not all expansions are available in Poland yet.

While i'm at it I'd like to excuse myself from the start for my apparent ignorance on the subject.

[New spreadsheet bellow]

Edited by Fulgrims
Clarification

Seems i managed to get a decently made list, if anyone cares to double check:

Imperial Assault Ilosc Dep. card Hero Dep. card Elite (x1) Dep. card Regular (x1) Notes
Core Set 1x - - - Incomplete sets of stormtroopers, Imperial Officers, Eweb Engineers, Royal Guard, Probe droid, AT-ST, Rebel trooper, Rebel saboteur
Bliźniacze Cienie / Twin Shadows 1x - - - Incomplete sets of heavy stormtroopers, tusken raiders
Return to Hoth 1x - - - Incomplete sets of snowtroopers, SC2-M Repulsor tank, MHD-19, Echo base trooper
Bespin Gambit 1x - - - Incomplete sets of Ugnaught Tinkerer, Wing guard
Jabba's Realm 1x - - - Incomplete sets of Jet Troopers, Weequay Pirates, Gamorrean Guards, Rancor
W sercu Imperium/Heart of the empire 1x - - - Incomplete sets of AT-DP,Riot trooper, Sentry droid,clawdite shapeshifter, Darth maul (mini)
Najemnicy / Hired gun 2-6x - Hired guns hired guns 2 needed, 4 for card completion, 6 for full completion
IG-88 Droid 1-2x - IG-88 - 1 for card completion, 2 for mini completion
Boba Fett 1x Boba Fett - - "Hero", one needed
Bantha Rider 2x - Bantha Rider - 2 for both card and mini completion
Dengar 1x Dengar - - Hero, one needed
Bossk 1x Bossk - - Hero, one needed
Greedo 1x Greedo - - Hero, one needed
Jabba the Hutt 1x Jabba - - Hero, one needed
Kayn Somos 1x Kayn Somos - - Hero, one needed
Stormtroopers 2x - Stormtroopers Stormtroopers 2 needed (deploy cap), 3 for completion
General Sorin 1x General Sorin - - Hero, one needed
Agent Blaise 1x Agent Blaise - - Hero, one needed
ISB Infiltrators 2-6x - ISB Infiltrator ISB Infiltrator 2 needed, 4 for card completion, 6 for full completion
Great Inquisitor 1x Grand Inquisitor - - Hero, one needed
Captain Terro 2-3x Captain Terro Dewback Rider - 2 for cards, 3 for full mini replacement
General Weiss 2x Weiss AT-ST - One set for card completion, 2 set for mini completion
Royal Guard Champion 1x Royal Guard Champion - - Hero, one needed
R2-D2/C3PO 1x R2-D2, C3PO - - Heroes, one needed
Chewbacca 1x Chewbacca - - Hero, one needed
Rebel troopers 2-5x - Rebel Troopers Rebel Troopers 2x for elite card completion, 3 for std card completion, 5 for mini completion (deploy cap)
Rebel saboteurs 2-6x - Rebel Saboteurs Rebel Saboteurs 2x for elite card completion, 3 for std card completion, 6 for mini completion (deploy cap)
Wookie warriors 2-4x - Wookie Warriors Wookie Warriors 2x for elite card completion, 4 for std card and mini completion (deploy cap)
Alliance Smuggler 2-6x - Alliance Smuggler Alliance Smuggler 2x for elite card completion, 4 for std card completion, 6 for mini completion (deploy cap)
Echo base troopers 2-6x - Echo base troopers Echo base troopers 2x for elite card completion, 3 for std card completion, 6 for mini completion (deploy cap)
Leia Organa 1x Leia Organa - - Hero, one needed
Lando Calrissian 1x Lando Calrissian - - Hero, one needed
Luke Skywalker (jedi mode) 1x Luke Skywalker (Jedi) - - Hero, one needed
Alliance Rangers 2-4x - Alliance Rangers Alliance Rangers 2x for elite card completion, 3 for std card completion, 4 for mini completion (deploy cap)
Han Solo 1x Han Solo - - Hero, one needed
Obi-Wan Kenobi 1x Obi-Wan - - Hero, one needed
Edited by Fulgrims

I'm not 100% sure I'm following what you're looking for, but if you're looking to cover every theoretical deployment possibility then you're going to need 4 copies of every box. I believe there's at least one unit in each (royal guards, heavy stormies, wampas, wing guards, jet troopers, sentries, loth cats) that has two groups' worth of figures but only a single elite and a single regular deployment card. If you wanted a perfect complete set you would need to buy four copies to get the four regular deployment cards.

With that said, there's no practical reason to ever do that. Even if you really wanted to run four sets of heavy stormtroopers or whatever, I'm sure you could buy two sets for the figures and borrow the cards from someone.

I think you put IG-88 in the wrong column. He's unique. You don't need more than 1 of him.

1 hour ago, aermet69 said:

I think you put IG-88 in the wrong column. He's unique. You don't need more than 1 of him.

Aye, thanks, tought he was elite, didn't see the dot.

3 hours ago, ManateeX said:

I'm not 100% sure I'm following what you're looking for, but if you're looking to cover every theoretical deployment possibility then you're going to need 4 copies of every box. I believe there's at least one unit in each (royal guards, heavy stormies, wampas, wing guards, jet troopers, sentries, loth cats) that has two groups' worth of figures but only a single elite and a single regular deployment card. If you wanted a perfect complete set you would need to buy four copies to get the four regular deployment cards.

With that said, there's no practical reason to ever do that. Even if you really wanted to run four sets of heavy stormtroopers or whatever, I'm sure you could buy two sets for the figures and borrow the cards from someone.

Yeah, i saw that. The figurine for those in the box usually cover both sets avalable (heavy troopers, snow troopers, etc...) buuut there only one of each standard and elite deploy, so in theory to have a full collection of deployment card its as you said, 4 boxes. Sadly not all figurines are avalable in boosters :<

Jabba's Realm and Heart of the Empire has at least 2 regular and 1 elite card for each unit. (Jets, Weequay, Gamorrean, Riots)

IT means only two of those boxes is needed for the cards..

...but... only four figures in each group in each box. so to get 4 regular deployments and 2 elite deployments (max) then you would need a third box to get all the figures needed.

Off the top of my head, you'd need 4 Core, 4 Twin Shadows, 2 every other box, `1 of each unique figure pack (except you need 2 Terros), 4 of each non-unique figure pack.

Wait, you mean to just have the max number of figures+cards for each type of deployment group, or you mean to be able to field any possible combination of figures? Because you could field 4 regular Hired Guns and 2 elite Hired Guns in the same skirmish list and that would mean you'd need to buy 6 Hired Guns packs. And you'd need to buy 6 Twin Shadows boxes to run 4 regular Heavy Stormtroopers and 2 elite Heavy Stormtroopers in a list (which is 40 points btw).

Edited by Tvboy
51 minutes ago, Tvboy said:

Off the top of my head, you'd need 4 Core, 4 Twin Shadows, 2 every other box, `1 of each unique figure pack (except you need 2 Terros), 4 of each non-unique figure pack.

Wait, you mean to just have the max number of figures+cards for each type of deployment group, or you mean to be able to field any possible combination of figures? Because you could field 4 regular Hired Guns and 2 elite Hired Guns in the same skirmish list and that would mean you'd need to buy 6 Hired Guns packs. And you'd need to buy 6 Twin Shadows boxes to run 4 regular Heavy Stormtroopers and 2 elite Heavy Stormtroopers in a list (which is 40 points btw).

Yup that was then intention - you got it all right only for the fact you'd need 3 Terros to be able to field all units as minis, without terro as a token (2 elites and terro himself).

Here's a spreadsheet i made that notes recommended (imo) and max ammounts:

Imperial Assault Qty Dep. card Hero Dep. card Elite (x1) Dep. card Regular (x1) Notes
Core Set 1x (4) - - - Incomplete sets of stormtroopers, Imperial Officers, Eweb Engineers, Royal Guard, Probe droid, AT-ST, Rebel trooper, Rebel saboteur need 4 for all, only 1 stormtrooper blister needed then
Twin Shadows 1x (4) - - - Incomplete sets of heavy stormtroopers, tusken raiders. 4 needed for full set.
Return to Hoth 1x (2) - - - Incomplete sets of snowtroopers, SC2-M Repulsor tank, MHD-19, Echo base trooper 4 needed for full set. Only 2 eacho base troopers needed then.
Bespin Gambit 1x (2) - - - Incomplete sets of Ugnaught Tinkerer, Wing guard. 2 needed for full cards and minis.
Jabba's Realm 1x (2) - - - Incomplete sets of Jet Troopers, Weequay Pirates, Gamorrean Guards, Rancor. 2 needed for full cards and 3 for full minis.
Heart of the empire 1x (2) - - - Incomplete sets of AT-DP, Riot trooper, Sentry droid, clawdite shapeshifter, Darth maul. 2 needed for full cards and 3 for full minis.
Hired gun 4x (6) - Hired guns hired guns 2 needed, 4 for card completion, 6 for full completion
IG-88 Droid 1x IG-87 - - 1 for card completion, 2 for mini completion
Boba Fett 1x Boba Fett - - "Hero", one needed
Bantha Rider 2x - Bantha Rider - 2 for both card and mini completion
Dengar 1x Dengar - - Hero, one needed
Bossk 1x Bossk - - Hero, one needed
Greedo 1x Greedo - - Hero, one needed
Jabba the Hutt 1x Jabba - - Hero, one needed
Kayn Somos 1x Kayn Somos - - Hero, one needed
Stormtroopers 2x - Stormtroopers Stormtroopers 2 needed (deploy cap), 3 for completion
General Sorin 1x General Sorin - - Hero, one needed
Agent Blaise 1x Agent Blaise - - Hero, one needed
ISB Infiltrators 2x (6) - ISB Infiltrator ISB Infiltrator 2 needed, 4 for card completion, 6 for full completion
Great Inquisitor 1x Grand Inquisitor - - Hero, one needed
Captain Terro 2x (3) Captain Terro Dewback Rider - 2 for cards, 3 for full mini replacement
General Weiss 2x Weiss AT-ST - One set for card completion, 2 set for mini completion
Royal Guard Champion 1x Royal Guard Champion - - Hero, one needed
R2-D2/C3PO 1x R2-D2, C3PO - - Heroes, one needed
Chewbacca 1x Chewbacca - - Hero, one needed
Rebel troopers 3x (5) - Rebel Troopers Rebel Troopers 2x for elite card completion, 3 for std card completion, 5 for mini completion (deploy cap)
Rebel saboteurs 3x (6) - Rebel Saboteurs Rebel Saboteurs 2x for elite card completion, 3 for std card completion, 6 for mini completion (deploy cap)
Wookie warriors 3x (4) - Wookie Warriors Wookie Warriors 2x for elite card completion, 4 for std card and mini completion (deploy cap)
Alliance Smuggler 3x (6) - Alliance Smuggler Alliance Smuggler 2x for elite card completion, 4 for std card completion, 6 for mini completion (deploy cap)
Echo base troopers 3x (6) - Echo base troopers Echo base troopers 2x for elite card completion, 3 for std card completion, 6 for mini completion (deploy cap)
Leia Organa 1x Leia Organa - - Hero, one needed
Lando Calrissian 1x Lando Calrissian - - Hero, one needed
Luke Skywalker (jedi mode) 1x Luke Skywalker (Jedi) - - Hero, one needed
Alliance Rangers 3x (4) - Alliance Rangers Alliance Rangers 2x for elite card completion, 3 for std card completion, 4 for mini completion (deploy cap)
Han Solo 1x Han Solo - - Hero, one needed
Obi-Wan Kenobi 1x Obi-Wan - - Hero, one needed
Edited by Fulgrims

You're missing the Darth Maul, Ahsoka Tano and Emperor Palpatine Packs from Heart of the Empire (1 of each)

You'll also need to review Bespin Gambit.

I don't recall how many wing guard cards there are in the box, 1 elite / 2 regular or 1/1.

If it's 1/1 you'll need 4 boxes just for the cards. If its 1/2 then you just need 2 boxes.

For figures there are 6 guards in the box, and a max of 5 deployments in a 40 point team ( either 2/3, or 1/4 elite/regular)

This means 2.5 boxes needed just for the figures.

Wing guards are 2/1 with enough minis to cover all 3 deploys i belive.

Didn't knew about Ashoka/Palpatine/Maul minis packs, they're not available in Poland.

5 hours ago, Fulgrims said:

Wing guards are 2/1 with enough minis to cover all 3 deploys i belive.

Didn't knew about Ashoka/Palpatine/Maul minis packs, they're not available in Poland.

There are definitely only two sets of wing guard figures - I remember how long it took to paint them :P

Ok, fair enough. ?

On ‎8‎/‎21‎/‎2018 at 11:21 PM, Fulgrims said:

i'm not so much intrested in meta/what's usefull

I have a complete collection like you are asking for, including 4 Core Sets etc. ... but I have to say that there is more categories than meta, what's useful, or not. I'd call that Top Tier (top of the meta), good, still playable (but not meta), and absolutely unplayable. There are deployment cards that you just will NEVER use or just will never use 4 times.

E.g. for the core set. 2 Core sets are reasonable. Then you have maxed all elites and even the regular Officers and regular Stormtroopers. And you have maxed the figures for Royal Guards etc. Core Set 3 and 4 are just for the regular cards of Royal Guards, Trandoshans etc. But these don't make any sense at all (anymore).

So if I could go back in time, I'd really stop myself from buying more than 2 of any box or blister.

So to make a reasonable version of your list, it's any unique blister 1 time and everything else 2 times. The Terro/Dewback blister can be good 3 times (1 for the unique, 2 for the Dewbacks). And in some meta lists, you might find 3 Alliance Smugglers.

Edited by DerBaer

If you'd be searching for a meta list, I'd tell you to not buy Twin Shadows, Hoth and Bespin at all ...