2.0 Bwing Discussion Thread

By Rakaydos, in X-Wing

So with the prizes for the last 1.0 season being revealed as 1.0/2.0 Bwings, lets talk about Bwings.

More expensive than Xwings, slower, with a redder dial, they gained an additional cannon slot, lost the (potential) crew slot, and several cannons dropped in price. But it's hard to find a good role for a Bwing in a list that an Xwing doesnt fill cheaper.

What builds for Bwings have the rest of you been looking at?

There's a literal, SINGLE point of difference between the blue X and B. They're basically the same cost

But yeah, dial restrictions make even the linked focus/roll a bit iffy.

Still, gotta consider utility of systems (new collision detector) and FOUR shields to selflessly soak crits with

For named B-Wings, I was looking at Debris Gambit for a little bit, but I think Squad Leader might be the best talent.

You could Coordinate Dutch to hand a TL back (if Squad Leader Ten Numb), or just coordinate some other ship, and still get the benefit of now being stressed.

AP-5 and Cassian seem like natural fits for support ships. Maybe throw Leia crew in there somewhere.

I think the two named Bwings actually give you a decent way to get double mods (rare now a days). Braylen can focus into a red roll, get his stress, and have Focus-Reroll for attack, and be able to reroll the defense die (not too shabby). I think you can take him cheap, maybe a cheap Talent and maybe an HLC, call it a day. That's only 55 points! Ten Numb desperately wants Adv. sensors, but again, you get double mods and clear your stress. More expensive, but a pretty decent knife fighter who can K turn like a Defender. Again, keep him cheap, so maybe Adv. sensors, Elusive, and HLC for 65. That's a third of your list, but you get something pretty cool for that.

If you roll in Braylen, just do yourself a favor and bring Cassian

Stressed Bs can't manuever for ****

1 minute ago, ficklegreendice said:

If you roll in Braylen, just do yourself a favor and bring Cassian

Stressed Bs can't manuever for ****

What's Cassian do for you? He only affects the ship he's on, and the Bwing doesnt have a crew slot. Leia would work better.

Advanced Sensor Bwings might have potential, but that's a 50 point ship minimum. The ability to move 2.5 speed sideways and turn around (AS barrel roll, 1T) might let them act in unexpected ways, but will it be enough?

Cassian U-wing

I know they were absolutely godawful garbage you wouldn't think twice about in 1st ed, but they're a lot better now

Cassian Andor — U-Wing 47
Elusive 3
Perceptive Copilot 10
Ship Total: 60
Braylen Stramm — B-Wing 50
Selfless 3
Ship Total: 53
AP-5 — Sheathipede-Class Shuttle 30
Ship Total: 30
Wedge Antilles — X-Wing 52
Predator 2
Ship Total: 54

Electronic Baffle might also work. 2 points and a damage, at END step, to remove stress.

I’m not sure the bwings have a ton going for them, but the system slot is looking like the best slot in the game right now. So there is that.

There is something to be said for that 1 speed talon roll and 2 k. This thing can knife fight with the best of them.

47 minutes ago, Kdubb said:

There is something to be said for that 1 speed talon roll and 2 k. This thing can knife fight with the best of them.

Until you meet a large based ship. (Which is why it’s getting the 2-talon in 2.0).

23 minutes ago, FlyingAnchors said:

Until you meet a large based ship. (Which is why it’s getting the 2-talon in 2.0).

B-wings are getting 1-speed talons in 2.0, not 2-speed. A 1-speed talon can clear a large base as long as the b-wings base centre line is outside the large bases bullseye arc (assuming the bump was head on).

https://imgur.com/gallery/jQzKwX8

So the talons do help, still not a perfect solution though.

What about trick shot/ collision detectors? Shoot with an extra die through a rock, then ignore hitting it. Or set up a sneaky move through a rock and catch em off guard.

1 hour ago, Nyxen said:

What about trick shot/ collision detectors? Shoot with an extra die through a rock, then ignore hitting it. Or set up a sneaky move through a rock and catch em off guard.

Eh, there's a reason Trick Shot is only 1 point. Mainly that it can be suprisingly difficult to line up an obstructed shot.

Cassian Andor in the U-wing with Kanan Jarrus and Tactical Officer would be a really nice wingmate for a couple of B-wings. That will be my first attempt to get them going. Cassian's ability now works at R3 and on a medium base he has a lot more reach than he used to. Kanan's force can either be used for further stress removal or help keep Cassian alive whilst he's coordinating.

As far as the B-wings themselves I say keep them CHEAP. If I were to pair the 2 uniques with this U-wing I'd say Ion Cannon and Advanced Sensors on Braylen, and Elusive, HLC and Advanced Sensors on Ten. Advanced Sensors actually works fairly well with having Cassian activate first. If you were using generics, maybe collision detector is a better option. Either that or don't worry about the coordinate as much I guess.

Hmmm...

Braylen Stramm (50)
Outmaneuver (6)
Advanced Sensors (8)

Cassian Andor (47)
Kanan Jarrus (14)
Leia Organa (8)

Ten Numb (50)
Outmaneuver (6)
Fire-Control System (3)
Static Discharge Vanes (6)

Total: 198

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Leia/Kanan can actually make a red maneuver blue, every 3 turns... On off turns, Cassian and Kanan clear stress.