14 minutes ago, DodgingArcs said:I know this is the Punisher Thread but what do we like about the Gunboats. It seems to me the action economy they need to be Missile platforms got nerfed fo oblivion.
Yeah, can't say I care much for the OS-1 config. I keep drifting back to ion canon + APT on the XG-1. Until we get some more interesting ordnance I think the OS-1s will stay in the hanger.
1 hour ago, HolySorcerer said:Yeah, can't say I care much for the OS-1 config. I keep drifting back to ion canon + APT on the XG-1. Until we get some more interesting ordnance I think the OS-1s will stay in the hanger.
I just can’t see it with Vynder. The ability requires an action which isn’t really any of the actions you want to be doing.
I guess if you have coordinate and then OS1 Proton Torp FCS or something. He can lock and reload a lot.
I guess I just don’t see how he does anything better than Redline who can arc dodge like a boss with Advanced Sensors.
Okay so FCS, Advanced Slam and 1 of each Proton Torp is 62pts. So that easily fits with Visier or Jendon (Vader or Palp). Throw in Redline or Deathrain and it could be a solid Alpha squad.
Yeah, boats are going to be xg-1ing it up precisely because Punishers have the whole "mobile ordnance" schtik covered
Granted, Vynder is (on non-fickle average) FAR tougher than a Punisher, but that's all the more reason to play the long game with ions + prockets
Also, small base and therefore easier to run around rocks with...yet MORE reason to ion
Vynder's also a bit cheaper than what I'd consider "barebones" redline
Major Vynder (41)
Proton Rockets (7)
Advanced SLAM (3)
Xg-1 Assault Configuration (0)
Ion Cannon (5)
[56]
"Redline" (44)
Advanced Sensors (8)
Proton Torpedoes (9)
Cluster Missiles (5)
[66]
So, really they've got little in common. Vynder's a control, mobile tank with a five dice ace up his sleeve, Redline kills **** fast and dies fast
14 minutes ago, ficklegreendice said:
"Redline" (44)
Advanced Sensors (8)
Proton Torpedoes (9)
Cluster Missiles (5)[66]
I really just can't seem to like Cluster Missiles, even on Redline. I've been putting Homing on there instead. It could be because I've mostly been playing against Aces players and not Swarm players.
19 hours ago, DodgingArcs said:I know this is the Punisher Thread but what do we like about the Gunboats. It seems to me the action economy they need to be Missile platforms got nerfed fo oblivion.
I think the generic Gunboats are much worse currently than they were in 1.0, but I really like Vynder.
I have played quite a bit of him with Harpoons in 1.0, but back then there were some hard counters to him (Black One, Countermeasures).
These are not present in 2.0, and he can run circles around less maneuverable and lower initiative generics TIEs, X-Wings, etc..
2 hours ago, baranidlo said:I think the generic Gunboats are much worse currently than they were in 1.0, but I really like Vynder.
I have played quite a bit of him with Harpoons in 1.0, but back then there were some hard counters to him (Black One, Countermeasures).
These are not present in 2.0, and he can run circles around less maneuverable and lower initiative generics TIEs, X-Wings, etc..
Jam is present but it does have more limitations.