Push the Limit 2.0 confirmed for Rebels only

By Cloaker, in X-Wing

Meh, being 3/4 points undercosted apparently ain't **** compared to mass synergy pilots blowing squads WAY the **** out of proportion

"Math" is nice and all, but it's also horribly misleading without context

Edited by ficklegreendice
8 hours ago, Dengar5 said:

You can use math. You know, like how astronomers know when an eclipse will happen.

According to math, AP-5 is at least 3 points undercosted, probably 4. OP is correct in his assessment. And, in case you're wondering. Fenn Rau is actually very much still worth flying, but his cost is pretty close to balanced now. On a percentage basis, 1e Fenn Rau is the most undercosted ship in the game. His massive cost increase for 2e is absolutely correct. 2e has issues, but many things are significantly improved.

No offense, but FFG can use math too. There’s a reason all the cards aren’t simply mathematically costed using an algorithm and then printed with those values on them. And I wasn’t wondering about Fenn Rao but thanks for sharing.

EDIT: and for the record, the OP’s assessment is WAY beyond “AP-5 is 3-4 points under costed.” It’s the suggestion that, like PTL this will be a “must have” card in your builds that everyone will fly and you’d be crazy not too if you want to be competitive, filled with hyperbole about all the amazing value. If the post was “according to my spreadsheet AP-5 is 3 points under costed,” I wouldn’t have anything to say about it.

Edited by BigBadAndy

After 4 more games with him, I'll stand by my original premise; AP-5 at a 15% squad cost is the best ROI pilot the Rebels have, just barely edging out Rex. Thane is also just stupid great.

So I'll just this here, don't pay any attention to it

Death and TAXXXs

Thane Kyrell (48)
Elusive (3)
"Chopper" (Astromech) (2)
Servomotor S-Foils (0)

AP-5 (30)
Crack Shot (1)
R4 Astromech (2)

Captain Rex (32)

Blue Squadron Escort (41)
Servomotor S-Foils (0)

Blue Squadron Escort (41)
Servomotor S-Foils (0)

Total: 200

AP-5 — Sheathipede-Class Shuttle30

Ship Total: 30

Jan Ors — HWK-29042

Nien Nunb5

Moldy Crow12

Ship Total: 59

Luke Skywalker — X-Wing62

Ship Total: 62

Biggs Darklighter — X-Wing48

Ship Total: 48

(199)

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AP-5 — Sheathipede-Class Shuttle30

Ship Total: 30

Kyle Katatn — HWK-29038

Perceptive Copilot10

Moldy Crow12

Ship Total: 60

Wedge Antilles — X-Wing52

Predator2

Ship Total: 54

B iggs Darklighter - X-Wing48

R5 Astromech5

Ship Total: 53

(197)

Edited by ficklegreendice
17 hours ago, Dengar5 said:

You can use math. You know, like how astronomers know when an eclipse will happen.

According to math, AP-5 is at least 3 points undercosted, probably 4. OP is correct in his assessment. And, in case you're wondering. Fenn Rau is actually very much still worth flying, but his cost is pretty close to balanced now. On a percentage basis, 1e Fenn Rau is the most undercosted ship in the game. His massive cost increase for 2e is absolutely correct. 2e has issues, but many things are significantly improved.

Well howdy doo, look at that. Guess how we handle costs now? Digitally. That means we can fix problems on the fly! How wonderful is that?

On 8/18/2018 at 10:50 PM, ficklegreendice said:

"Math" is nice and all, but it's also horribly misleading without context

Statistics: giving context to math.

Also statistics: Making the numbers say whatever you want them to say.

I wish people would quote or link to the card they’re talking about in threads like this...