No seriously I don't know.

But Oicunn with dauntless title and intimidation (the basic Oicunn IMO) is 93pts if I am right! I was comparing with rebel Landon that is naked at 92, it look like imperial bias to me

OK, better dial and green dice for the YT, but the improved HP for Decimator, and the pilot ability of Oicunn, shooting at range 0 ( the range bonus apply or I am wrong?), When title allow to focus or change arc... What do you think about that?

Is Oicunn a good deal for you?

(Sorry for the betclick title)

Captain Oicunn (84)
Intimidation (3)
Agent Kallus (6)
Fifth Brother (12)
Dauntless (6)

Total: 111

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I keep looking at this, and it seems legit. 5th Brother isn't... awesome, but he does allow for Force powers, which are a great deal. Plus Kallus, so you can get even more actionless mods.

This is half your list, but it would be relentless murder.

My favorite part of the new decimator is the blues (formerly known as greens) moving from 2 bank to 1 bank..

No, Oicunn is almost certainly not the best large base. He doesn't come with any way to get double mods.

Now, Rebel Lando...

No

Oicuun is the COOLEST large ship, but you have to remember how many times per game you'll actually get to block anyone (and therefore use his ability) without any means of repositioning

Odds are, it'll be FAR less often than Cheri getting his ability for only 4 more points (plus the bump in I all the way up to 5)

Cheri (trickshot, tua, Vader, agile gunner) is an even 120 points

Don't really even need Vader (drops Cheri to 106 points), he's just a badass

2 hours ago, Punning Pundit said:

Captain Oicunn (84)
Intimidation (3)
Agent Kallus (6)
Fifth Brother (12)
Dauntless (6)

Total: 111

View in Yet Another Squad Builder

I keep looking at this, and it seems legit. 5th Brother isn't... awesome, but he does allow for Force powers, which are a great deal. Plus Kallus, so you can get even more actionless mods.

This is half your list, but it would be relentless murder.

5th Brother is a waste of points, the rest is legit though.

And anyway, the best large base ship is probably Scum Han. Or Trandoshan Slaver.

30 minutes ago, SOTL said:

And anyway, the best large base ship is probably Scum Han. Or Trandoshan Slaver.

Why do you say that?

scum han's FAR more difficult to enable than his text would suggest. Obstruction is really hard to pull off, especially with that fat a base and no 1-turns

Slaver might do okay, do a TIE swarm or mini-swarm still eviscerates it in short order

Ultimately, the winner will probably be the Lambda because it's the cheapest

1 hour ago, Dengars Toilet Paper said:

Why do you say that?

It's absurdly cheap.

3 hours ago, SOTL said:

5 hours ago, Punning Pundit said:

5th Brother  is a waste of points, the rest is legit though. 

I just read your excellent article about list building and I want to talk about this.

Brother is a waste of point, but if I follow your advice, kallus is the waste. Kallus is weak against swarm, when swarm is the worst enemy for this list. Brother give lot more adaptability. I really respect your opinion but are you sure kallus are a good idea when Oicunn is at the command?

By the way, you are legend!

Fifth bro is twice as expensive as Kallus, so I can see why he's a waste of points

Only ever justified using him on Redline because you can still fit a four TIE fighter mini-swarm and because, with Advanced Sensors, Redline can do all sorts of crazy shenanigans and then use Fifth Bro on a Proton Torpedo

But if Redline could take Kallus, I'd take Kallus

9 hours ago, player2422845 said:

But Oicunn with dauntless title and intimidation (the basic Oicunn IMO) is 93pts if I am right! I was comparing with rebel Landon that is naked at 92, it look like imperial bias to me

I would not be underestimating Lando. His ability works on himself now, so if his buddy doesn't need the action Lando has stress-free PtL after any blue move. That is... rather terrifying on a large-base turret with boost.

The Lambda is amazing. Too bad it can take Tarkin, because that would be NASTY.

I hope we get the sentinel, a meaner lambda (possibly 4 dice attack? please?)

A 4/3 front rear arc with a tanky reinforced ship, with the current empire crew selection would be amazing, even if it moves like a truck.

But really, the Lambda is stupendously good. All the named pilots are cool, the title is useful, and the rear arc is amazing. And it comes cheap.

I'm looking forward to fly this:

Captain Kagi — Lambda-Class Shuttle48

Fire-Control System3

Ciena Ree10

Director Krennic5

Ship Total: 66

Soontir Fel — TIE Interceptor52

Outmaneuver6

Stealth Device*

Ship Total: 66

Alpha Squadron Pilot — TIE Interceptor34

Ship Total: 34

Alpha Squadron Pilot — TIE Interceptor34

Ship Total: 34

This is how I'd roll, y'all:

29 minutes ago, MaxPower said:

This is how I'd roll, y'all:

Captain Oicunn — VT-49 Decimator	84
Intimidation	3
Death Troopers	6
Proton Bombs	5
Shield Upgrade	*
Dauntless	6
Ship Total: 107

Wouldn't you want Ablative plating over shield upgrade?

It's only one more point, and if you are intending to be in your own blast radius, it will give you 2x protection.

If I summarise the general trend.

- Oicunn is OK but not that cheap

- Oicunn ability is harder to trigger than expected

- keep it cheap and I he will do the job

- rebel Lando is maybe better because of double mod possibility

Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

12 hours ago, ficklegreendice said:

Oicuun is the COOLEST large ship, but you have to remember how many times per game you'll actually get to block anyone (and therefore use his ability) without any means of repositioning

It experienced that in 1.0 recently...I went all in with Oicuun, Mara JAde, Anti-puirsuit lasers, intimidation and Dauntless, and blocked exactly 0 times...(in my defense, it was an A-wing swarm opposing me, and I messed them up, but not in the cool way I hoped I would...).

4 hours ago, Commander Kaine said:

The Lambda is amazing. Too bad it can take Tarkin, because that would be NASTY.

It can, if oyu put Krennic on it too. But then it's getting expensive.

Does Optimised Prototype work on a Decimator? If it shoots out the front arc, does that fulfil the requirements?

12 minutes ago, Archangelspiv said:

Does  Optimised Prototype work on a Decimator? If it shoots out the front arc, does that fulfil the requirements?

I think so, if you attack in your front arc with primary.

4 hours ago, Archangelspiv said:

Does Optimised Prototype work on a Decimator? If it shoots out the front arc, does that fulfil the requirements?

4 hours ago, player2422845 said:

I think so, if you attack in your front arc with primary.

I actually think it doesn't. There seems to be difference between the front arc symbol and the turret arc symbol for a reason. I believe that front arc symbol is specifically talking about a weapon that has that symbol, which the turret does not.

We really do need clarification on that from FFG.

I'd concur. The Decimator doesn't have a V primary weapon. It has a bowtie.

49 minutes ago, thespaceinvader said:

I'd concur. The Decimator doesn't have a V primary weapon. It has a bowtie.

In fact I just took the reference rules, and at arc, that is what I understand

All ships have 4 arcs

"The turret arc indicator points toward one of ship’s four standard arcs"

"A ship’s firing arcs include all shaded arcs on the ship’s ship token plus all (Mobil arc symbol ) arcs, if any."

1 hour ago, Ixidor said:

I  believe that front arc symbol is specifically t   alking about a weapon that has that symbo   l  ,

Optimised prototype required the ship to fire with primary weapon, in the front arc. I may be wrong, but with this wording, it look like all condition s are fulfilled for a Decimatorn ( it have a turret primary weapon)