2 minutes ago, Blail Blerg said:

Anakin never used one like this.

Which is not something most people will notice.

CIS should be red bases, but since rebels and resistance are already needed a different color.

I would have gone with purple instead of orange though. The geonosian starfighters had purple lasers, as well as the magnaguard electrostaffs.

Its an odd design too. I don't remember them being with the droid mounted in front.

Anakin had a blue modified one.

They shoulda made this the classic EP2 red version with obi wan

20 minutes ago, Blail Blerg said:

Anakin never used one like this.

Thank you.

17 minutes ago, Hiemfire said:

Not with an integrated astromech side mount. He did use a later version of the Aethersprite with the astromech partially blocking his forwards view though. Still, it is who they say the pilot is and those are his preferred colors....

You mean the Delta-7B. Like I detailed in my post.

18 minutes ago, Blail Blerg said:

Its an odd design too. I don't remember them being with the droid mounted in front.

Anakin had a blue modified one.

They shoulda made this the classic EP2 red version with obi wan

Technically untrue. The "Azure Angel" was in the non-canon 2003 Clone Wars series, and was promptly destroyed anyway. It was very, very sodding cool though.

However, very little exists to disprove Anakin DID have it... Except for this.



What's interesting is that...



He regressed to a Delta-7 by the time of the war's end, so something's definitely up here.

The front mounted droid by the way, Blail, is from TCW.

19 minutes ago, Captain Lackwit said:

Thank you.

You mean the Delta-7B. Like I detailed in my post.

Technically untrue. The "Azure Angel" was in the non-canon 2003 Clone Wars series, and was promptly destroyed anyway. It was very, very sodding cool though.

However, very little exists to disprove Anakin DID have it... Except for this.



What's interesting is that...



He regressed to a Delta-7 by the time of the war's end, so something's definitely up here.

The front mounted droid by the way, Blail, is from TCW.

Wait, what?

Also in Ep3, Anakin uses the yellow ETA-2 right?

33 minutes ago, Blail Blerg said:

Wait, what?

Also in Ep3, Anakin uses the yellow ETA-2 right?

Yep, his Actis was yellow. Probably where I got my presumption of his preferred paint scheme from too.

1 hour ago, Captain Lackwit said:

Thank you.

You mean the Delta-7B. Like I detailed in my post.

Technically untrue. The "Azure Angel" was in the non-canon 2003 Clone Wars series, and was promptly destroyed anyway. It was very, very sodding cool though.

However, very little exists to disprove Anakin DID have it... Except for this.



What's interesting is that...



He regressed to a Delta-7 by the time of the war's end, so something's definitely up here.

The front mounted droid by the way, Blail, is from TCW.

But aren't those Plo Koon's fighters?

From what I can find Anakin flew these, in order, during the Clone Wars

Azure Angel a heavily modified Delta 7 that used an integrated red astromech like normal Delta 7s. Also Legends now.

Anakin's Yellow Delta 7B, which is the one from Clone Wars and is what the paint job on the mini is obviously referencing.

A standard Delta 7 from a GBA game that came out before Episode 3, the one with Battle Droids that were immune/resistant against lightsabers. Legends.

Azure Angel II, from the older Clone Wars comic series and is also Legends.

Anakin's Yellow Eta-2, technically two of them since one is crashed in season five of Clone Wars with the ROTS one being destroyed during the crash landing of Grievous' ship.

The Yellow Eta-2 is technically his last ship as Anakin, but he does fly an Eta-2 that is painted green before he ended up getting rather heavily lava tanned. Also, just look at that R2 slot on the Eta 2 there, R2 is magic his whole lower half just disappears.

On another note, what color are people hoping for the Eta-2 and the Y-Wing? I suspect they will likely go with yellow for the Eta-2 and I'll need to repaint some for the other pilots but as for the Y-Wing I wonder if they will go with red or yellow.

1 hour ago, Animewarsdude said:

But aren't those Plo Koon's fighters?

From what I can find Anakin flew these, in order, during the Clone Wars

Azure Angel a heavily modified Delta 7 that used an integrated red astromech like normal Delta 7s. Also Legends now.

Anakin's Yellow Delta 7B, which is the one from Clone Wars and is what the paint job on the mini is obviously referencing.

A standard Delta 7 from a GBA game that came out before Episode 3, the one with Battle Droids that were immune/resistant against lightsabers. Legends.

Azure Angel II, from the older Clone Wars comic series and is also Legends.

Anakin's Yellow Eta-2, technically two of them since one is crashed in season five of Clone Wars with the ROTS one being destroyed during the crash landing of Grievous' ship.

The Yellow Eta-2 is technically his last ship as Anakin, but he does fly an Eta-2 that is painted green before he ended up getting rather heavily lava tanned. Also, just look at that R2 slot on the Eta 2 there, R2 is magic his whole lower half just disappears.

On another note, what color are people hoping for the Eta-2 and the Y-Wing? I suspect they will likely go with yellow for the Eta-2 and I'll need to repaint some for the other pilots but as for the Y-Wing I wonder if they will go with red or yellow.

Y wings with reinforce?

More hull?

I guess a slightly better dial, but i'm honestly not sure anymore why the rebels took the armor off. In nucanon the ships were partially dismantled.

Should be interesting regardless.

3 minutes ago, Commander Kaine said:

Y wings with reinforce?

More hull?

I guess a slightly better dial, but i'm honestly not sure anymore why the rebels took the armor off. In nucanon the ships were partially dismantled.

Should be interesting regardless.

I'm not sure if they would get Reinforce, but someone has made the note that with all that armor they are near the length of the U-Wing so they might pump it up to a medium base. I do suspect new hull, and considering its role it will likely end up being the heavy ordnance carrier for the Republic.The question I'm wondering though is if they will make its dial and actions better to reflect it being newer and having better equipment on it or if they will make it heavier and give it less options in favor for giving it more hull and upgrade options. Still, just with how the Scum, Rebel, and Resistance Falcons differentiate themselves I'm sure the two variants of the Y-Wing will as well.

As for the Rebels, the Legends reason was it was easier to access the ship's mechanics so likely a mix of that and the them being scavenged from dismantling facilities and the second market. If they do stay on a small base though, might be funny to see Rebel players flying their Y-Wings as new models or near mint condition ones, or even having people play with them in a campaign where they start out as they are from the Clone Wars and then replace them with the Rebels version as the campaign went on.

6 hours ago, Hiemfire said:

Yep, his Actis was yellow. Probably where I got my presumption of his preferred paint scheme from too.

Lucas specifically chose to have Anakin associated with yellow vehicles. His pod racer, the Naboo fighter, the hotrod he commandeers, his Delta 7, his Eta 2.

10 hours ago, Animewarsdude said:

I'm not sure if they would get Reinforce, but someone has made the note that with all that armor they are near the length of the U-Wing so they might pump it up to a medium base.

What? How is the armor adding length to the Y-Wing?

1 hour ago, Yakostovian said:

What? How is the armor adding length to the Y-Wing?

The Rebel one is supposedly 16 meters long, whereas the Republic on is 23.04 meters long, mostly due to them extending the engine pods out with the armor. So since the U-Wing is 24.98 meters long some one in another thread suggested that it might be bumped up to a medium base.

From the image it sort of looks like the Rebels cut off a good half of the engine pods.

Are people going to get annoyed if I try and point out that the Clone Wars Y-Wing and the Rebels' Y-Wing are different models even accounting for the removal of the armour plates?

The OT Y-Wing is either the BTL-A4 or the BTL-S3. The Clone Wars version is the BTL-B. The differences go beyond just a designation, you actually can't physically fit the BTL-A4/S3 into the shape of the BTL-B - the proportions are different.

The distance from the astromech slot to the front of the cockpit is different, for example, and the reconfiguration of the bubble turret goes way beyond just stripping out armour. Others have already pointed out that the engines are different sizes, and I believe the position of the 'wings' on the BTL-A4 doesn't quite jive with how the engines join to the hull on the BTL-B.

The model posted above for comparion looks the Rebels CG model, which I believe had to take some subtle liberties with the original ANH filming model to make it look more like the TCW Y-Wing. I think, for example, that the front of the nacelles is longer and pointier than it should be.

The point of all that is basically to say there's no reason FFG can't do whatever the **** they want with the Republic Y-Wing's stats. I'd imagine more hull and an (even) worse dial, but for all the supposed added bulk the Y-Wings actually seen in the Malevolence episodes are pretty agile, all things considered. Reinforce seems like a decent shout in the face of that. Or maybe a BTL-B only modification that works along the lines of ablative plating but for missiles/torps?

13 minutes ago, GuacCousteau said:

Are people going to get annoyed if I try and point out that the Clone Wars Y-Wing and the Rebels' Y-Wing are different models even accounting for the removal of the armour plates?

The OT Y-Wing is either the BTL-A4 or the BTL-S3. The Clone Wars version is the BTL-B. The differences go beyond just a designation, you actually can't physically fit the BTL-A4/S3 into the shape of the BTL-B - the proportions are different.

The distance from the astromech slot to the front of the cockpit is different, for example, and the reconfiguration of the bubble turret goes way beyond just stripping out armour. Others have already pointed out that the engines are different sizes, and I believe the position of the 'wings' on the BTL-A4 doesn't quite jive with how the engines join to the hull on the BTL-B.

The model posted above for comparion looks the Rebels CG model, which I believe had to take some subtle liberties with the original ANH filming model to make it look more like the TCW Y-Wing. I think, for example, that the front of the nacelles is longer and pointier than it should be.

The point of all that is basically to say there's no reason FFG can't do whatever the **** they want with the Republic Y-Wing's stats. I'd imagine more hull and an (even) worse dial, but for all the supposed added bulk the Y-Wings actually seen in the Malevolence episodes are pretty agile, all things considered. Reinforce seems like a decent shout in the face of that. Or maybe a BTL-B only modification that works along the lines of ablative plating but for missiles/torps?

Not disagreeing with you at all, and funnily enough I was figuring that with the 1.0 and 2.0 Y-Wing model people could even play around with the idea of the Rebels having a mix of the A4 and S3 on the board, of course that is just fluff stuff.

Found this pic which is closer to the filming model Y-Wings

And this one from Rebels with the Y-wing having some of its hull pulled off, granted doesn't change the model variation just that these had similar armor, of course I rather like the look of the original cross sections armor too.

22 hours ago, thespaceinvader said:

Res and FO are the same colour as Rebel and Imp respectively IIRC.

22 hours ago, eMeM said:

This

Call me confused. I get it that Episode VII was just a lousy remake of Episode IV but if you are going to change faction why not change colors? Or more importantly why change colors only for the prequel factions? Trade Federation shot red and Naboo shot green right?

2 hours ago, GuacCousteau said:

Are people going to get annoyed if I try and point out that the Clone Wars Y-Wing and the Rebels' Y-Wing are different models even accounting for the removal of the armour plates?

The OT Y-Wing is either the BTL-A4 or the BTL-S3. The Clone Wars version is the BTL-B. The differences go beyond just a designation, you actually can't physically fit the BTL-A4/S3 into the shape of the BTL-B - the proportions are different.

The distance from the astromech slot to the front of the cockpit is different, for example, and the reconfiguration of the bubble turret goes way beyond just stripping out armour. Others have already pointed out that the engines are different sizes, and I believe the position of the 'wings' on the BTL-A4 doesn't quite jive with how the engines join to the hull on the BTL-B.

I did a comparison a while ago. BTL-B is massive, but the "core" is roughly in the same place, including the astro. But it's impossible that all the bulk is just armor (or this is the most armored ship in Star Wars with like solid 2 meters of side armor), engines are clearly different, guns are huge, and of course the cockpit has been redesigned.

I think the BTL-B will still be a medium. The model will have longer engine pods and the armor and be wider but I don't think they'll go medium with it. Partially because I think it would overlap too much with the ARC-170 at that point (they already overlap in role a good bit).

Note that the canon length of the BTL-A4 with engine pods stripped (the Rebel version) is 16.24 meters. The canon length for the ARC-170 is 12.71 meters (though wing span is 19.85 meters). My point here is that everything seems to be wrong everywhere.

EDIT: If someone knows of a shot where we can compare the models in an episode, that would be awesome! I don't recall them being used simultaneously, though.

57 minutes ago, eMeM said:

I did a comparison a while ago. BTL-B is massive, but the "core" is roughly in the same place, including the astro. But it's impossible that all the bulk is just armor (or this is the most armored ship in Star Wars with like solid 2 meters of side armor), engines are clearly different, guns are huge, and of course the cockpit has been redesigned.

Might not make sense but the armor does not have to be a solid set of chunks. Having it spaced a bit away from the 'core' and a possible second layer of plating would increase the area a blaster shot has to disperse after hitting the outer plates. A bit like current anti-HEAT shell protection.

41 minutes ago, Ixidor said:

EDIT: If someone knows of a shot where we can compare the models in an episode, that would be awesome! I don't recall them being used simultaneously, though.

They flew alongside in a few episodes, the first of which being 'Zillo Beast'.

6 minutes ago, Animewarsdude said:

They flew alongside in a few episodes, the first of which being 'Zillo Beast'.

Too bad they aren't closer together and we don't have the same angle there on both but the Y-Wing does look a good bit longer than the ARC-170. Interesting.

30 minutes ago, Ixidor said:

Too bad they aren't closer together and we don't have the same angle there on both but the Y-Wing does look a good bit longer than the ARC-170. Interesting.

If it helps, the Arc-170 and Y-Wing show up in the following episodes:

3-02: Arc Troopers

3-12: Nightsisters

4-05: Mercy Mission

4-06: Nomad Droids

5-08: Bound for Rescue

5-09: A Necessary Bond

5-18: The Jedi Who Knew Too Much

23 hours ago, Animewarsdude said:

But aren't those Plo Koon's fighters?

From what I can find Anakin flew these, in order, during the Clone Wars

Azure Angel a heavily modified Delta 7 that used an integrated red astromech like normal Delta 7s. Also Legends now.

Anakin's Yellow Delta 7B, which is the one from Clone Wars and is what the paint job on the mini is obviously referencing.

A standard Delta 7 from a GBA game that came out before Episode 3, the one with Battle Droids that were immune/resistant against lightsabers. Legends.

Azure Angel II, from the older Clone Wars comic series and is also Legends.

Anakin's Yellow Eta-2, technically two of them since one is crashed in season five of Clone Wars with the ROTS one being destroyed during the crash landing of Grievous' ship.

The Yellow Eta-2 is technically his last ship as Anakin, but he does fly an Eta-2 that is painted green before he ended up getting rather heavily lava tanned. Also, just look at that R2 slot on the Eta 2 there, R2 is magic his whole lower half just disappears.

On another note, what color are people hoping for the Eta-2 and the Y-Wing? I suspect they will likely go with yellow for the Eta-2 and I'll need to repaint some for the other pilots but as for the Y-Wing I wonder if they will go with red or yellow.

Maaaaaaaaaaan you ain't gotta' tell me any of this. I know all of it..! For starters, yeah, Plo Koon's fighter is based off of "The Azure Angel" from the 2003 TCW series- which was rendered non-canon a **** of a long time ago (much to my, and many people's chagrin). However, that frees up the paintjob, and they used it for Plo Koon.

So, canonically.

We've never seen Anakin's base Delta-7 Aethersprite Starfighter. Just his Delta-7B.

Perhaps we'll see two Aetherpsrites in the core (assuming, as I do, that there will be a core), and one Infiltrator. In which case they can be Anakin's and Obi Wan's paint schemes.

4 minutes ago, mazz0 said:

Perhaps we'll see two Aetherpsrites in the core (assuming, as I do, that there will be a core), and one Infiltrator. In which case they can be Anakin's and Obi Wan's paint schemes.

OK yeah, if they did this I would buy a core set.

On 8/12/2018 at 10:38 PM, Animewarsdude said:

On another note, what color are people hoping for the Eta-2 and the Y-Wing? I suspect they will likely go with yellow for the Eta-2 and I'll need to repaint some for the other pilots but as for the Y-Wing I wonder if they will go with red or yellow.

Red Y-Wing. Rebel ones are already yellow. Scum ones do kinda have a bit of maroon in them, but red Clone-Wars era Y-Wings wold add the most overall visual difference, IMHO.

That R2-D2 thing bothers me too. Where does the bottom half go? You can see under the dang thing, and he clearly wouldn't fit in there. Bah. I just don't like pretty much any prequel-era design. Naboo fighters are solid, but otherwise? Not for me. But as I've said, I'd rather buy new Prequel ships than re-buy stuff I already have to get new upgrades.