1 minute ago, Matt3412 said:

well might as well make my case now, I voted for pod as stated he was the first to accuse someone ebon.

later started to get suspicious of the dispute after looking closer into it like the majority. for reference my list was (pod + Ebon, LP)

after pod died it was reveled he was innocent, i made the statement i no longer believe ebon is guilty.

Leaves me with my current vote of LP.

My observations leave me here currently

Bad

Lord peyer (honestly if you can make a case i would move to unknown)

ovi

Good

Gengis

clon

unknown kinda shady

ebon

ltd

Preyer seems odd, but I feel from past games with him that he's town..

what is your case against him? what makes him not town for you?

Just now, EbonHawk said:

sure, that's what we all say

Matt is no1

you no2

genghis no3

What're your thoughts clon, care to sway me over?

Well I was the first to unvote and change to pod based on @GhostofNobodyInParticular comments, which sweayed me to rethink about voting for pod, he was still several away from a hammer so I thought *shrug* what the heck,

Now obviously I was lied too by a scheming rebel...

I am pretty suspicious of Matt right now, who was following the majority vote, originally for You @EbonHawk until I voted which put pod up a vote and Then almost immediately he switched. @Lord Preyer followed suit, although I agree with about Lord preyer, I think he was feeling nervous because he had 2 votes for himself and as such wanted to get pressure away when the hammer vote presented itself.

I don't think ghengis did it personally...

As stated from my previous posts from day one his actions seemed overly guiding, i believe gengis saw what is saw.

as well as his vote of pod at the end. Especially earlier on when i was under the impression he was on the (Now Reality it seems) just marriage probs camp. (this i could be wrong on that's why i want him to make a case)

However as time has progressed the feeling has lessened somewhat.

14 minutes ago, clontroper5 said:

Well I was the first to unvote and change to pod based on @GhostofNobodyInParticular comments, which sweayed me to rethink about voting for pod, he was still several away from a hammer so I thought *shrug* what the heck,

Now obviously I was lied too by a scheming rebel...

I am pretty suspicious of Matt right now, who was following the majority vote, originally for You @EbonHawk until I voted which put pod up a vote and Then almost immediately he switched. @Lord Preyer followed suit, although I agree with about Lord preyer, I think he was feeling nervous because he had 2 votes for himself and as such wanted to get pressure away when the hammer vote presented itself.

I don't think ghengis did it personally...

good stuff, you're still at no3 but with less scum vibes..

I have to say forgetting about the game and coming back has given me a new perspective to the old ones in regards to seeing how it was played out and not being involved, and as said matt rings all my bells

14 minutes ago, Matt3412 said:

As stated from my previous posts from day one his actions seemed overly guiding, i believe gengis saw what is saw.

as well as his vote of pod at the end. Especially earlier on when i was under the impression he was on the (Now Reality it seems) just marriage probs camp. (this i could be wrong on that's why i want him to make a case)

However as time has progressed the feeling has lessened somewhat.

I believe he was trying to save me from a lynch bc he knew i was predisposed (which ends our vendetta, he is forgiven)

so who would you vote for as scum than?

@Gengis Jon your input please

also @ovinomanc3r , as said both your votes on me and matty seem sheepish, where as usually you're very direct with your reason to your vote, and why it''s there..

this game you don't

case in point

19 hours ago, ovinomanc3r said:

##vote Matt

Because he is just flavor and a filler. Where is needed a vote to lynch a fool? There he will be, no reasons no worries: just a vote.

Also a bigger post than what needed to just point out his very first vote was on Pod.

18 hours ago, ovinomanc3r said:

Then you should read that as me thinking you're scum. That's what my votes are stand for.

1 minute ago, EbonHawk said:

I believe he was trying to save me from a lynch bc he knew i was predisposed (which ends our vendetta, he is forgiven)

so who would you vote for as scum than?

see this is confusing to me why would he vote for either you or pod if he believed that. Saving you is still killing pod, the 2 people your claiming are innocent in this logic.

Just now, Matt3412 said:

see this is confusing to me why would he vote for either you or pod if he believed that. Saving you is still killing pod, the 2 people your claiming are innocent in this logic.

I was talking in respect to pods game yesterday and his resulting lynch..

to whom are you referring?

4 minutes ago, Matt3412 said:

see this is confusing to me why would he vote for either you or pod if he believed that. Saving you is still killing pod, the 2 people your claiming are innocent in this logic.

Also the question asked, who do you think is scum?

Full stop.

You keep diverting attention away from answering that question, but seem happy to follow anyone else being called scum. This is lending me to think you're partner No2.

LP voting for ebon or pod makes no sense if he believed both of them to be innocent.

1 minute ago, EbonHawk said:

Also the question asked, who do you think is scum?

Full stop.

You keep diverting attention away from answering that question, but seem happy to follow anyone else being called scum. This is lending me to think you're partner No2.

and i have literally listed this so many times. currently LP1, ovi2

see my BAD section of previous post

Just now, Matt3412 said:

LP voting for ebon or pod makes no sense if he believed both of them to be innocent.

and i have literally listed this so many times. currently LP1, ovi2

see my BAD section of previous post

Having been in LPs position, when you have votes on you day 1 it is nervous and you find people tend to vote so they don't die, to me that's a town tell this game

Aside from that any other reasons to suspect Preyer, and Ovi?

If i recall, the aforementioned post is just calling them bad?

42 minutes ago, EbonHawk said:

care to elaborate, usually you seem town to me Ovi?

Although I agree his vote on me and pod seemed to be one of wanting a dead town

I am bit lazy and I think it is pretty clear what I mean. Read his day1, all is flavor about what I think is a weapon and swinging votes between you and Pod. He also wrote a relative big post just when he could just say "ey! I voted Pod first" when LP (or LTD?) pointed out that he changed from Ebon to Pod. Innecessary words to argue he had Pod in his scumlist from the very beginning to not seem opportunistic when all was a LP's (or LTD?) mistake counting votes.

35 minutes ago, EbonHawk said:

your whole game ovi doesn't read normal town ovi for me...

what you doing man

I think is pretty normal. Just joking as always. My post about breadcrumbs was a joke. The stupid question about why I said that seemed to me it had to be answered with more jokes.

34 minutes ago, EbonHawk said:

sheeping?

You usually go your own way

I just opened a honey pot. It seems our scummy friends prefered other things. Basically I am not as good as Gink to set a trap.

3 minutes ago, EbonHawk said:

also @ovinomanc3r , as said both your votes on me and matty seem sheepish, where as usually you're very direct with your reason to your vote, and why it''s there..

this game you don't

case in point

I don't know how you see the vote on Matt sheepish and I think I was pretty direct about what I think he is and why he is.

I have also other concernings but I chose to start with him. I could go with my second top subject or maybe the third if you want.

Just now, ovinomanc3r said:

I am bit lazy and I think it is pretty clear what I mean. Read his day1, all is flavor about what I think is a weapon and swinging votes between you and Pod. He also wrote a relative big post just when he could just say "ey! I voted Pod first" when LP (or LTD?) pointed out that he changed from Ebon to Pod. Innecessary words to argue he had Pod in his scumlist from the very beginning to not seem opportunistic when all was a LP's (or LTD?) mistake counting votes.

I think is pretty normal. Just joking as always. My post about breadcrumbs was a joke. The stupid question about why I said that seemed to me it had to be answered with more jokes.

I just opened a honey pot. It seems our scummy friends prefered other things. Basically I am not as good as Gink to set a trap.

I don't know how you see the vote on Matt sheepish and I think I was pretty direct about what I think he is and why he is.

I have also other concernings but I chose to start with him. I could go with my second top subject or maybe the third if you want.

Just finished my second re-read, thanks for the reply, just needed context..

as said I don't think your scum, just playing a grey game, but i understand the jokes (and love them)

I agree with you about matty, every reread seems to cement that for me

19 hours ago, Matt3412 said:

@ovinomanc3r I read that as you don't think I'm in the mafia but don't want me in the town, this seems confusing if truly representing the towns perspective.

##vote @Lord Preyer

I still agree and think LP is acting suspicious, with pod now dead ebon seems alot less suspicious .

Just why? Pod dying doesn't make anyone less suspicious, even me....

You also seem to be shadowing the other points from players, this could be from being new, but im reading scum

so to test your waters and reaction

##vote @Matt3412

Hi @Matt3412 I hope my previous explanation of why I moved to hammer Pod would be sufficient but to underscore: I was worried about being voted on, I did fear that the vendetta was leading us into a high probability of friendly fire (I am so happy it’s over for you at least @ebon hawk ) and I admit to being swayed by the mind tricks of that Scum GNIPs which obviously I regret!

Sorry if you felt I was being too leading earlier - my intention was to try to help foster more discussion so that the randomness of Day 1 could be reduced a bit.

As for me not being Scum, I actually think me and you enjoy possible potential Town verification by way of our ex(insane)cop. That would require there to have been a pre-game scan and for it to have been on one of us and for it to have read Scum which though sounding unlikely would explain Pod’s dying words to us all.

Hope that helps!

I’m sticking with LP as my no 1 suspect. (Which, contrary to someone analysis I never deviated from when the lynch mob waggon train hit overdrive) LP seems entirely too helpful and likable. I don’t want it to be him, but I must go with my gut. My single (semi) tangible piece of evidence remains his usage of the word “neat.” It really does just seem like the kind of word someone would use who’s trying to put out innocent “ah-shucks, I’m just a friendly townie” kinda vibes. Just a smiggin over the top.

My second choice is LTD — I don’t trust anyone who doesn’t know the difference between quasi black and faux black.

##vote @Lord Preyer

1 minute ago, Lord Preyer said:

As for me not being Scum, I actually think me and you enjoy possible potential Town verification by way of our ex(insane)cop. That would require there to have been a pre-game scan and for it to have been on one of us and for it to have read Scum which though sounding unlikely would explain Pod’s dying words to us all.

That is all assumption. Also you only get one scan, not two.

Most likely scanned me as well knowing him..

So it would be impossible to scan you and matt, those reads when his own, not the cops results

**** Preyer, you were doing so well staying low on my list, Clon you've been bumped down to no4

D a m n is not a swear word

At this point i would be repeating my self just read all of today's posts.

And I guess since i need to clarify this for some reason; BAD=mafia=scum=rebel=not town

@Lord Preyer im glad you responded i think the reason he had you 1 was because he scanned you/ not me. ##unvote @Lord Preyer

Ebon - in my earlier post I stated that there could only have been one scan and so it was between me and Matt *IF* that scenario were to be true!

19 hours ago, Matt3412 said:

@ovinomanc3r I read that as you don't think I'm in the mafia but don't want me in the town, this seems confusing if truly representing the towns perspective.

##vote @Lord Preyer

I still agree and think LP is acting suspicious, with pod now dead ebon seems alot less suspicious.

you still agree with who?

49 minutes ago, Matt3412 said:

well might as well make my case now, I voted for pod as stated he was the first to accuse someone ebon.

later started to get suspicious of the dispute after looking closer into it like the majority. for reference my list was (pod + Ebon, LP)

after pod died it was reveled he was innocent, i made the statement i no longer believe ebon is guilty.

Leaves me with my current vote of LP.

My observations leave me here currently

Bad

Lord peyer (honestly if you can make a case i would move to unknown)

ovi

Good

Gengis

clon

unknown kinda shady

ebon

ltd

Voilá, nothing like getting some pressure from Ebon to get vip place in the smoke curtain post from my suspect, lol

1 minute ago, Matt3412 said:

At this point i would be repeating my self just read all of today's posts.

And I guess since i need to clarify this for some reason; BAD=mafia=scum=rebel=not town

@Lord Preyer im glad you responded i think the reason he had you 1 was because he scanned you/ not me. ##unvote @Lord Preyer

I'm sorry but with all respect that is rubbish.

Saying someone is BAD is not a reason, that is a STATEMENT.

You need reasons reasons to make a statement, and so far all you're saying is, bad.

On 9/14/2018 at 11:22 PM, Matt3412 said:

This looks shady

This looks really shady to me

Also I have called out LP,Pod, and Ebon.

Notice how pods vote changes off ebon right as ebon is one vote from hammer then counters into getting support against LP

I stand by my first assumption that pod and ebon are definitely playing a game with us

When I said pods game seemed like trying to help me survive because i was unable to play you said you didnt understand..

Yet you make the same point here...