2.0 T-65 - Loose wings?

By Gazerfoxie, in X-Wing Painting and Modification

Was fortunate to score a couple of the new 2.0 core sets and an expansion X-wing at GenCon.

Wondering if anyone had suggestions for tightening up the mobile S-foils on the new minis? One of the ones I wound up with is more than a bit loose and it would be nice to get a little more resistance in there.

The only thing I can think of would be to pop it open (as it is done in some of the other threads on here), and apply some petroleum jelly or a similar substance. Shouldn't prevent the wings from closing, but might gum up the works a little bit?

And here I am using WD-40 to try to clean the gunk out of my Saw's X-wings so they actually open and close fully. And I hopefully don't have to bust them open. LOL

I'd recommend NOT using petroleum jelly as it may eat the plastic. Petroleum jelly is a solvent for POL substances . . . like plastic.

I like where Piscopas is thinking but Petroleum Jelly isn't the right substance.

The office supplies sell a substance called "Adhesive Tack." You might want to try that and see if that helps. It's pretty pliable and you would need VERY little to set into the wing joints.

And if the issue is actually with keeping the wings closed, applying a drop on the wing tips might work (?)?

That's the best I can think of right now. Hopefully we'll be able to figure out a better solution.

I've seen the Saw Guerra X-Wings and those foils are too tight to work properly. I figure that having the wings too loose may be a better product, especially if there's an after market product that we could apply.

11 hours ago, Mark Caliber said:

I'd recommend NOT using petroleum jelly as it may eat the plastic. Petroleum jelly is a solvent for POL substances . . . like plastic.

I like where Piscopas is thinking but Petroleum Jelly isn't the right substance.

The office supplies sell a substance called "Adhesive Tack." You might want to try that and see if that helps. It's pretty pliable and you would need VERY little to set into the wing joints.

And if the issue is actually with keeping the wings closed, applying a drop on the wing tips might work (?)?

That's the best I can think of right now. Hopefully we'll be able to figure out a better solution.

I've seen the Saw Guerra X-Wings and those foils are too tight to work properly. I figure that having the wings too loose may be a better product, especially if there's an after market product that we could apply.

Didn't know that about petroleum jelly. Thanks for the heads up, and I hope the OP didn't actually try my boneheaded suggestion!

On ‎8‎/‎13‎/‎2018 at 11:19 AM, Mark Caliber said:

I'd recommend NOT using petroleum jelly as it may eat the plastic. Petroleum jelly is a solvent for POL substances . . . like plastic.

I like where Piscopas is thinking but Petroleum Jelly isn't the right substance.

The office supplies sell a substance called "Adhesive Tack." You might want to try that and see if that helps. It's pretty pliable and you would need VERY little to set into the wing joints.

And if the issue is actually with keeping the wings closed, applying a drop on the wing tips might work (?)?

That's the best I can think of right now. Hopefully we'll be able to figure out a better solution.

I've seen the Saw Guerra X-Wings and those foils are too tight to work properly. I figure that having the wings too loose may be a better product, especially if there's an after market product that we could apply.

On ‎8‎/‎13‎/‎2018 at 11:19 AM, Mark Caliber said:

I'd recommend NOT using petroleum jelly as it may eat the plastic. Petroleum jelly is a solvent for POL substances . . . like plastic.

I like where Piscopas is thinking but Petroleum Jelly isn't the right substance.

The office supplies sell a substance called "Adhesive Tack." You might want to try that and see if that helps. It's pretty pliable and you would need VERY little to set into the wing joints.

And if the issue is actually with keeping the wings closed, applying a drop on the wing tips might work (?)?

That's the best I can think of right now. Hopefully we'll be able to figure out a better solution.

I've seen the Saw Guerra X-Wings and those foils are too tight to work properly. I figure that having the wings too loose may be a better product, especially if there's an after market product that we could apply.

A poor man's patch that I've used a lot to add friction to models is just a very small piece of normal tape. I haven't tried it, but I'd imagine cutting off a very small piece and wedging it in the front or back of the joint may do the trick.

I can see FFG right now reading this topic, and then proceeding to flip their entire workstation over and walking off...

"NOW THEY ARE TOO F***** LOOSE! WHAT THE **** WILL PLEASE THESE GUYS!"

Loose = flaps faster = flies faster. Duh.

...sink ships.

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Thanks for the suggestions, crew.. yeah, it seems silly to ask about how to make the wings more gummy while there's another thread about loosening them up.. I have three of the minis, one from the expansion and 2 from core sets, and the core set ones are loose enough to be a concern, one of them is loose enough to just flop at the slightest disturbance.

Update - thanks for the ‘sticky tack’ suggestion, reminded me I had a block of a product called ‘museum putty’ floating around.. its a very lightly adhesive putty material, I Use small dots of it to affix models in cases so they don’t slide around, and to hold parts on sticks for airbrushuing. I worked a little into the joints on my sloppy floppy X-wings, and it added just enough resistance.

On 8/16/2018 at 2:59 AM, CyCo said:

...sink ships.

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So what you're saying is, if Luke's wings were just a little tighter, he wouldn't have had that whole Dagobah swamp debacle? ?

13 hours ago, emeraldbeacon said:

So what you're saying is, if Luke's wings were just a little tighter, he wouldn't have had that whole Dagobah swamp debacle? ?

Err, yes. That's it exactly.

:unsure: ;)

vegatable oil - just a drop

Honestly, I'm this close to just gluing all my 2.0 X-Wings in the open position and calling it a day.

(Although the loose core set one is better than the spongy Saw's one.)

Glad I found this thread because my Saw’s X-wing is way too tight to function and my core X-wing is so loose that just a tiny touch to the wings anywhere and the whole wing array flops to one side. I may try some putty I have, but this thread has got me thinking about a liquid we use at work on printer rollers when they stop catching. It basically makes them gummier without sticking to the paper when it goes through.

I just want to say for the record I was just as excited as everyone when they announced that the wings would move, but some dreams are better left in the stars! (My new Fang was also so stuck I had to really force it to move. There is another thread about this common issue. Works well, however, once unstuck.)

3 hours ago, You Look Like A Nail said:

Honestly, I'm this close to just gluing all my 2.0 X-Wings in the open position and calling it a day.

(Although the loose core set one is better than the spongy Saw's one.)

1 hour ago, dadocollin said:

Glad I found this thread because my Saw’s X-wing is way too tight to function and my core X-wing is so loose that just a tiny touch to the wings anywhere and the whole wing array flops to one side. I may try some putty I have, but this thread has got me thinking about a liquid we use at work on printer rollers when they stop catching. It basically makes them gummier without sticking to the paper when it goes through.

I just want to say for the record I was just as excited as everyone when they announced that the wings would move, but some dreams are better left in the stars! (My new Fang was also so stuck I had to really force it to move. There is another thread about this common issue. Works well, however, once unstuck.)

Same here.

I smushed the Saw’s X-Wings closed and I’m just going to leave them like that. I love Z95s anyway, so now I have 2 x-wings that look kinda like double-winged Zs. So, that’s cool.

Luke’s x-wing from the core is so loose it practically falls closed. I’m thinking about glueing them open. I would consider trading it out but I do like the Luke paint scheme.

I won’t be letting moving parts pull me in anymore. The lambda shuttle and u-wing are great but small ships with little moving bits not so much.

22 hours ago, Star glider said:

vegatable oil - just a drop

No. not unless you eventually want mold, bugs, another random stuff gathering around and inside your x-wing

I know this is an old thread, but if it can help someone...

I just dripped a few drops of matte varnish I had lying around into the mechanism using a toothpick. Let it dry overnight, and now the S-Foils have a nice "bite" and hold their position super-well!