30 minutes ago, Drasnighta said:

And yet, Vader avoids fire and takes out Phoenix home with spinning, and

Thrawn even identifies Anakin in Vader by his tactical spinning..... it... works.

Spin 2: While you are defending, during the spend defense tokens step, you may cancel up to 2 attack dice.

Vader in particular should have a force buff. I think he’s a bit overpriced at the mo.

Force abilities: cancel 1 attack die of your choice when you are attacked. Or something.

On 8/7/2018 at 5:18 PM, >kkj said:

There are still some fan favourite squadrons missing, mostly the U-Wing and Imperial Gunboat. And although there are still tons of legends and canon TIE Variants remaining the Rebels have hardly any squadrons remaining. T he only squadrons that were really employed in any wide scale were the U-Wing and the K-Wing (the later by the Legends New Republic, but we have the E-Wing from there too).

So my suggestion is one final mixed squadron pack containing:

2x U-Wing (irregular squadron, possibly with the Assault Keyword)

2x K-Wing Squadron (regular squadron, counter for its turrets, maybe 3 blue bomber dice?)

2x Star Wing Assault Gunboat (irregular squadron, maybe give it Snipe because of all its missiles?)

2x TIE Punisher Squadron (regular squadron, 2 or 3 bomber dice, imperial B-Wing equivalent)

(For those thinking about the TIE Striker, i dont think it has much of a place in Armada, as it was mostly used for athmospheric duty and regarding the Heavy TIE from the Solo Movie, i dont think its different enough to warrant it a place in this game. Both work fine for X-Wing, but struggle to fulfill any meaningful and different role than other fightercraft already in this game. Same goes for the TIE Reaper and Krennics Shuttle, although both are cool)

Imperial Fighter part III
Xg-1 Gunboat, Missleboat, TIE-Avenger, TIE-Heavy Bomber, Imperial Recon: TIE Scout, TIE Vanguard

Scum of the Galaxy Fighters ( = Rebels and others)
T-Wing, R-41 Starchasers, Rebel Recon: Y-Wing Longprobe, Recon A-Wing

Transport and shuttles
Delta-class JV-7 Escort shuttles, Delta-class DX-9 Stromtrooper transport,Gamma-class ATR-6 Assault transport, Beta-class ETR-3 Assault transport

4 hours ago, DScipio said:

Imperial Fighter part III
Xg-1 Gunboat, Missleboat, TIE-Avenger, TIE-Heavy Bomber, Imperial Recon: TIE Scout, TIE Vanguard

Scum of the Galaxy Fighters ( = Rebels and others)
T-Wing, R-41 Starchasers, Rebel Recon: Y-Wing Longprobe, Recon A-Wing

Transport and shuttles
Delta-class JV-7 Escort shuttles, Delta-class DX-9 Stromtrooper transport,Gamma-class ATR-6 Assault transport, Beta-class ETR-3 Assault transport

waaaaaay too much obscure legends stuff

7 hours ago, DScipio said:

Imperial Fighter part III
Xg-1 Gunboat, Missleboat, TIE-Avenger, TIE-Heavy Bomber, Imperial Recon: TIE Scout, TIE Vanguard

Scimitar Assault Bomber. The only specific heavy bomber the empire needs.

Gunboat & Missileboat as rogue light & med bombers respectively.

16 hours ago, DScipio said:

Imperial Fighter part III
Xg-1 Gunboat, Missleboat, TIE-Avenger, TIE-Heavy Bomber, Imperial Recon: TIE Scout, TIE Vanguard

Scum of the Galaxy Fighters ( = Rebels and others)
T-Wing, R-41 Starchasers, Rebel Recon: Y-Wing Longprobe, Recon A-Wing

Transport and shuttles
Delta-class JV-7 Escort shuttles, Delta-class DX-9 Stromtrooper transport,Gamma-class ATR-6 Assault transport, Beta-class ETR-3 Assault transport

I like the way you think!

Please make that ^ happen FFG!

Nah - @>kkj Just think about how many awesome scenarios this could open up! Especially if they released some sort of campaign that involved transports etc.

Interdiction missions, customs patrol, - more space station scenarios!

Raids!!

Too excited about this! Hehe.

16 hours ago, >kkj said:

waaaaaay too much obscure legends stuff

YOU are to much obscure legends stuff!

In honesty: What do you find to obsucre? I am asking that also because you included the K-Wing and the TIE-Punisher, the two perhaps most ugly and worst designed, Star-Wars-unfittig craft of the whole franchise.

13 hours ago, ISD Avenger said:

Scimitar Assault Bomber. The only specific heavy bomber the empire needs.

Gunboat & Missileboat as rogue light & med bombers respectively.

You are right, it should be in.

8 hours ago, DScipio said:

YOU are to much obscure legends stuff!

In honesty: What do you find to obsucre? I am asking that also because you included the K-Wing and the TIE-Punisher, the two perhaps most ugly and worst designed, Star-Wars-unfittig craft of the whole franchise.

I like the K-wing, but "ugly" and "beautiful" are just matters of preference. What i mean with obscure is material that has almost never appeared in more than one single source or that has never been touched by FFG before. While the TIE Punisher for sure is obscure at least we have it in X-Wing with already developed stats which raises the probability of it getting released for Armada significantly. Also Canon > Legends seems to be FFGs go-to rule. Dont get me wrong, im a big legends fan. But some people just need to get a sense of realism for what material FFG will touch upon. Ships have to look cool, be recognizable to some extent and fill a meaningful role in the game. All that stuff you mentioned was for the most part just created to fill up content for books or video games.

Oh and if we are talking about non-star wars looking ships: Please back off with that Bellator Super Star Destroyer or what-the-name-of-the-similiar-looking-ship-is. Even without knowing that they were fanmade i can immediately see that. Someone just put on a stupid amount of turrets all over a triangular ship and thought that would make it look "badass". I much prefer original and different ship ideas than just taking something and "PUT MOAAR STUFF ON IT". A problem that a lot of the legends stuff has. (And again, thats coming from a big legends fan)

14 hours ago, >kkj said:

I like the K-wing, but "ugly" and "beautiful" are just matters of preference. What i mean with obscure is material that has almost never appeared in more than one single source or that has never been touched by FFG before. While the TIE Punisher for sure is obscure at least we have it in X-Wing with already developed stats which raises the probability of it getting released for Armada significantly. Also Canon > Legends seems to be FFGs go-to rule. Dont get me wrong, im a big legends fan. But some people just need to get a sense of realism for what material FFG will touch upon. Ships have to look cool, be recognizable to some extent and fill a meaningful role in the game. All that stuff you mentioned was for the most part just created to fill up content for books or video games.

Oh and if we are talking about non-star wars looking ships: Please back off with that Bellator Super Star Destroyer or what-the-name-of-the-similiar-looking-ship-is. Even without knowing that they were fanmade i can immediately see that. Someone just put on a stupid amount of turrets all over a triangular ship and thought that would make it look "badass". I much prefer original and different ship ideas than just taking something and "PUT MOAAR STUFF ON IT". A problem that a lot of the legends stuff has. (And again, thats coming from a big legends fan)

Source comparison

Yours:
K-Wing : 14
TIE-Punisher: 6

Mine:
Xg-1: 30
TIE-Avenger: 22
TIE-Scout: 16
TIE-Vanguard: 4
Missle Boat: 6
T-Wing: 11
R-41: 11
Y-Wing Longprobe: 15
Stromtrooper Transport: 13
TIE Heavy Bomber (Could really be left aside, it just looks more acceptable than the TIE-Punisher, I thought others might like it ? 2

Of course looks are a matter of preference, but there are also objective aspects. And the point that the K-Wing is a pretty unfitting fighter/bomber for Star Wars.

On the legends matter: It might be that FFG favors the Disney Canon (depsite the Victory beeing something of a central piece for Armada), but we dont have to restrict our whishes to them because of their mindset in that matter.

I didnt loose a word abput the Bellator-class and very dislike the "PUT MOAAR STUFF ON IT" doctrine, which is btw. much more common in the new canon than in the old.

My suggestions are picked with sense because there would be much more legends stuff, but the one I picked all have a valid role in the setting and are not just "fill ups".