Admiral Piett commander card spoiled (corrected)

By JadinED, in Star Wars: Armada

12 hours ago, JadinED said:

When a friendly ship spends only a command token to resolve a command, you may exhaust this card. If you do, that ship resolves that command as if it only spent a dial of the same type instead.

This seems like a reverse Leia. She makes you spend the dial and only 1 token together, whereas Piett forces you to spend only 1 token to get a dial.

1 hour ago, Undeadguy said:

This seems like a reverse Leia. She makes you spend the dial and only 1 token together, whereas Piett forces you to spend only 1 token to get a dial.

That's kind of how I read it. So you can't token and dial the second dial, because you have to posses a token in order to get the effect. It's definitely a weird rules situation, especially with the rule that an SSD get's a token for free with a dial - I would assume the wording there is linked to revealing so this second token-to-dial-dial wouldn't get a free token with it.

2 hours ago, BrobaFett said:

That's kind of how I read it. So you can't token and dial the second dial, because you have to posses a token in order to get the effect. It's definitely a weird rules situation, especially with the rule that an SSD get's a token for free with a dial - I would assume the wording there is linked to revealing so this second token-to-dial-dial wouldn't get a free token with it.

Oh that's a good point, but you can't resolve 2 of the same dial. So SSD revealing squad and getting a squad token can't be turned into another squad dial with Piett. But maybe if you have a CF token and a squad dial, the SSD grants a squad dial+token and Piett gives a CF dial and then the SSD grants a CF token.

14 minutes ago, Undeadguy said:

Oh that's a good point, but you can't resolve 2 of the same dial. So SSD revealing squad and getting a squad token can't be turned into another squad dial with Piett. But maybe if you have a CF token and a squad dial, the SSD grants a squad dial+token and Piett gives a CF dial and then the SSD grants a CF token.

Depends on if the cards states "as if you spent a dial" if it is "as if" you are spending a token to get dial effect

2 minutes ago, Lyraeus said:

Depends on if the cards states "as if you spent a dial" if it is "as if" you are spending a token to get dial effect

But it would then be treated exactly the same as spending a dial so you would get a token as well

4 minutes ago, clontroper5 said:

But it would then be treated exactly the same as spending a dial so you would get a token as well

No, you spent a token and the SSD rule previewed is when you flip the command LIKE Raymus

2 minutes ago, Lyraeus said:

No, you spent a token and the SSD rule previewed is when you flip the command LIKE Raymus

Oh i understand what your saying, the ssd procs off of "flipping" the dials not spending them, then I think your right

Just now, clontroper5 said:

Oh i understand what your saying, the ssd procs off of "flipping" the dials not spending them, then I think your right

Yup and if the OP is right this can't work on a command you are spending a dial on as you have to ONLY be spending the Token and then shift it to the dials effect instead

So if you had a Squadron dial and a navigate token, when you flip the dial you get the token and dial, and if you use Piett you would turn the navigate token I to a dial

MSU banking CF token turn 2 and navving from there would appreciate a 22pt Piett

I'd always hoped he'd intensify the forward batteries in someway, like an imperial version of Ackbar or something along those lines. With things as they are I can't see him being usefull much outside of an SSD build or a dual ISD christmas tree list. I'm really hoping I can take Piett in a lot of different fleet types, he's my favorite Imperial Officer.

8 minutes ago, Ginkapo said:

MSU banking CF token turn 2 and navving from there would appreciate a 22pt Piett

Even though he exhausts to use? One ship a round would benefit from it.

Just now, Snipafist said:

Even though he exhausts to use? One ship a round would benefit from it.

The right ship at the right time with no guessing as to when to dial in the CF command!

So basically Piett is either:

A) Stick him on the SSD to resolve 2 commands per round.

B) Stick him on the Dictor to get two uses from him.

500 pt CC fleet with SSD & Dictor anyone? :D

Just now, Green Knight said:

So basically Piett is either:

A) Stick him on the SSD to resolve 2 commands per round.

B) Stick him on the Dictor to get two uses from him.

500 pt CC fleet with SSD & Dictor anyone? :D

Pshhhhh I did it at 400 :P just not much room for much else

I dont think the SSD will give you a token.. I think it will do the same as Leia and give you the effect of spending a token & dial per order just without the restriction of being the only command used.

So with Piett if you have a token from another source (banked on an earlier turn or from comms net) then you could spend the token to get the dial effect INSTEAD of the token effect.... (which on an SSD would be dial + token.)

But he does give you the ability to do 2 full commands with (for example) a raider ie spend the Nav token as a dial to speed up and add a click of navigation whilst spending the CF dial

edit - so yeah I think he'll be worth 30 odd points for that....

Edited by slasher956
10 hours ago, slasher956 said:

I dont think the SSD will give you a token.. I think it will do the same as Leia and give you the effect of spending a token & dial per order just without the restriction of being the only command used.

Is there a reason you don't think it will get the token? Not to say that it will, as we don't yet know for sure how it will work, but the article literally says, "When you resolve one of these command tokens [dials?], you'll also assign the corresponding command token to your ship!"

Now, preview articles aren't exactly known to be particularly diligent with their representation of the rules, and there is even a glaring error in the sentence I quoted. But I think it's a little early to assume the rule works very differently from how the article says it works.

11 hours ago, Lochlan said:

Is there a reason you don't think it will get the token? Not to say that it will, as we don't yet know for sure how it will work, but the article literally says, "When you resolve one of these command tokens [dials?], you'll also assign the corresponding command token to your ship!"

Now, preview articles aren't exactly known to be particularly diligent with their representation of the rules, and there is even a glaring error in the sentence I quoted. But I think it's a little early to assume the rule works very differently from how the article says it works.

Reading comprehension.....sometimes it's a fail.....?

(Edit :talking about mine by the way)

Edited by slasher956