That's a weak effect. A one off use to get one token+dial... Ehhhhhh I would bet that it's for all ships and its for a turn but still. One ship per turn... 32 pts... Thats a lot for a little
Admiral Piett commander card spoiled (corrected)
24 minutes ago, Crabbok said:If I only spend a token? Does this mean I can't use my dial? I doubt that. It's probably more like if I spend a dial, it has to be different than a token? But to exhaust him? That's weak. Seems VERY weak. I'm happy to try it out, but I just can't see that as being good.
I think you should looks at him in the context of SSD. And together with SSD he is a better version of Thrawn (Once SSD has all 4 tokens it can execute any command as a dial on top of the existing dial as much as it wants). Essentially Piett covers two SSD weaknesses: high command value and the inability to change course without navigate dial. I don't expect to see a lot of Piett fleets without SSD, but I do expect to see him in SSD fleets.
Correction after consulting my pillow:
I'm actually a little fuzzy on the last word of the third to last line, the word before spent. "Has" spent would be a total deviation from the way "spent" is used on other upgrade cards. But after sleeping on it, it hit me. "... as if it only spent a dial" is an option and a way to avoid the need for an FAQ... if you may get both the effect of the dial and the token for spending the Piett token... Also, the point cost of the card is really hard to make out.
... so...
- Admiral Piett
When a friendly ship spends only a command token to resolve a command, you may exhaust this card. If you do, that ship resolves that command as if it only spent a dial of the same type instead.
(?2 points)
It still would be a relly lackluster admiral no matter the point cost. Come on FFG! Piett deserves better than that!
38 minutes ago, Norell said:It still would be a relly lackluster admiral no matter the point cost. Come on FFG! Piett deserves better than that!
Howso? Two full dials on a single ship (two of you interdictor him) for up to the full six rounds, for 10 points cheaper than Thrawn? Sign me up!
Edited by MandalorianMoose17 hours ago, Moxel said:I think he will work really well with Victories. With Piett you can get the benefit of concentrate fire without sacrifice anything and still keep navigateing with your dials. Has there been any official confirmation regarding how the commands work on huge ships? I thought you got the benifit of the command dial and a token when you revealed a dial, not an actual token. Just like how Leia work.
You would spent 32 points [or even 22pts as some have speculated] for 1 ship to get 1 extra dice, instead of a re-roll. And you need to invest in token generation.
I really hope they haven't designed him to be stapled to a SSD.
Hmm with the correction, at a 32 point Commander being able to spend a token and get both effects even if you didn't flip that command... Would be amazing if it's just he dial, ehhh
48 minutes ago, Norell said:Come on FFG! Piett deserves better than that!
FFG would never belittle popular characters...wait, someone said Commander Leia? ;)
Seems too similar to Thrawn and the Grand Moff old-guy-dead-face-thing. YKnow that dude who wants to blow up Alderaan.
45 minutes ago, Blail Blerg said:Seems too similar to Thrawn and the Grand Moff old-guy-dead-face-thing. YKnow that dude who wants to blow up Alderaan.
Piett and Tarkin could not be more different if they tried
1 hour ago, MandalorianMoose said:Piett and Tarkin could not be more different if they tried
What if Piett said once per turn, add 4 red dice to your attack pool.
Courtesy of some poster above. Took some trying. (No it didn't)
I hope it change like Sloane before release
19 minutes ago, Blail Blerg said:What if Piett said once per turn, add 4 red dice to your attack pool.
Courtesy of some poster above. Took some trying. (No it didn't)
Then he would be busted as all **** lol. Devastator Piett= 16 dice attack pool
Well, at least we’ll see Devastator.
Even if it stays as speculated I like Piett more than Palpatine.
15 hours ago, PT106 said:I think you should looks at him in the context of SSD. And together with SSD he is a better version of Thrawn (Once SSD has all 4 tokens it can execute any command as a dial on top of the existing dial as much as it wants). Essentially Piett covers two SSD weaknesses: high command value and the inability to change course without navigate dial. I don't expect to see a lot of Piett fleets without SSD, but I do expect to see him in SSD fleets.
This. Piett + Wulff Yularen on the SSD, Nav Command round 1, bank the token and you can gain a click per round for the ship (if needed). Moff JJ is still better for changing course, but Piett might be more flexible, for example providing two extra dice with cf (don't forget screaming: "Intensify forward firepower") If he is really 22 points only i would take him with the SSD most of the time.
38 minutes ago, KaLeu said:This. Piett + Wulff Yularen on the SSD,
Why do you need Wulff? My understanding is that SSD get a free token whenever command is executed as a dial. (It also means that whenever SSD spends a token and Pietts it, it executes the command as a dial AND gets the command token back).
but Piett might be more flexible, for example providing two extra dice with cf
I don't believe you can do this, because a command can only be executed once and Piett is likely to have a restriction on use on dial+token combo.
Edited by PT106
1 minute ago, PT106 said:Why do you need Wulff? My understanding is that SSD get a free token whenever command is executed as a dial. (It also means that whenever SSD spends a token and Pietts it, it executes the command as a dial AND gets the command token back).
To change course (get a click) without a real nav command, so your command dial can be set to something useful like squadrons or cf.
32 minutes ago, KaLeu said:To change course (get a click) without a real nav command, so your command dial can be set to something useful like squadrons or cf.
You only need Piett for that. SSD with nav token and Piett spends that nav token. Piett activates and allows to treat it as a dial, so SSD can change course. And because SSD resolved a navigation dial, it gets navigation token as well (SSD ability) so in the end SSD executed nav command and still has nav token to repeat this next round. (This is of course deneds on how SSD ability is worded, and we don't know that yet)
Edited by PT106On 8/5/2018 at 11:52 AM, Ginkapo said:So for 32 pts he lets you resolve 1 token as a dial per turn.
I'm I the only one really confused by this? Does he at least unexhaust at the end of every ship activation?
On 8/5/2018 at 1:23 PM, Divad said:Honestly for 32 pts there must be more to this card, because simply turning a token to a dial for a single ship per turn is rather crap.
I agree, there has to be more it just seems too weak
30 minutes ago, PT106 said:You only need Piett for that. SSD with nav token and Piett spends that nav token. Piett activates and allows to treat it as a dial, so SSD can change course. And because SSD resolved a navigation dial, it gets navigation token as well (SSD ability) so in the end SSD executed nav command and still has nav token to repeat this next round. (This is of course deneds on how SSD ability is worded, and we don't know that yet)
I really would like to see it that way, too. But @jadinED corrected reading (first post here) with the word "only" seems to indicate that Piett doesn't trigger the SSD's ability. Besides that there's always the difference between "reveal a command dial" and "resolve a dial". But i totaly agree with you: we just don't know yet.
6 hours ago, Blail Blerg said:What if Piett said once per turn, add 4 red dice to your attack pool.
Courtesy of some poster above. Took some trying. (No it didn't)
That was my idea, thank you very much.
I meant it as a joke, despite the fact I'd love front arc amplifier Commander like Ackbar with side arcs. I mean how would you balance that?
Edited by Piratical Moustache1 hour ago, Piratical Moustache said:That was my idea, thank you very much.
I meant it as a joke, despite the fact I'd love front arc amplifier Commander like Ackbar with side arcs. I mean how would you balance that?
I think its busted too. But its funny to get people wringing their hands taking it seriously.
How about 6 red dice? How much would you pay.
12 minutes ago, Blail Blerg said:I think its busted too. But its funny to get people wringing their hands taking it seriously.
How about 6 red dice? How much would you pay.
45pts would still be a steal for that firepower on a Cymoon 1.
