Generic bases

By Proton Torpedo, in Star Wars: Legion

Looking for a couple of extra infantry bases to mount figures on. I know there are scenic bases but are there any generic bases that are the right size that are available? Anything close?

I haven't seen anything. The set with the crates and vaporators comes with several though, if you wanted to use the bases for your minis and the crates and such for terrain.

Get a compass and a sheet of artists illustration board. Make 27mm circles and cut them out. Or trawl for 27mm steel washers.

5 hours ago, arnoldrew said:

I haven't seen anything. The set with the crates and vaporators comes with several though, if you wanted to use the bases for your minis and the crates and such for terrain.

I ended up doing this—honestly, I couldn’t see why I would want to mount any of those things on bases at all, since they stand up just fine without them and don’t need to move about. I also plan to mount my fleet troopers, royal guard, and perhaps Palpatine on the upcoming premium bases, which will give me another dozen to play with. I’m a little annoyed that FFG has 1. elected to use a non-standard base size along with a precisely calibrated complementary movement tool that effectively removes the possibility of simply switching to 25mm bases, 2. not simply made a pack of plain spare bases available already, and 3. delayed the release of the ‘premium’ bases until some hazy time late in the year, but I’m trying to make the best of it.

On 8/4/2018 at 11:40 PM, Proton Torpedo said:

Looking for a couple of extra infantry bases to mount figures on. I know there are scenic bases but are there any generic bases that are the right size that are available? Anything close?

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2849424

Ready to print

2 hours ago, TheGreenKnight said:

along with a precisely calibrated complementary movement tool that effectively removes the possibility of simply switching to 25mm bases,

That really shouldn't matter. If you are using unnoffical bases anyways, what do you care if movement is tweaked by that much? It's too little to impact the outcome of a game. My vehicles all move within that much margin of error now, cause FFG made notched bases fit the movement tool so tight that there was no room to paint the bases.

Yeah. I had to use a emory board to sand them back down after bases were finished.

6 minutes ago, TheGreenKnight said:

I ended up doing this—honestly, I couldn’t see why I would want to mount any of those things on bases at all, since they stand up just fine without them and don’t need to move about. I also plan to mount my fleet troopers, royal guard, and perhaps Palpatine on the upcoming premium bases, which will give me another dozen to play with. I’m a little annoyed that FFG has 1. elected to use a non-standard base size along with a precisely calibrated complementary movement tool that effectively removes the possibility of simply switching to 25mm bases, 2. not simply made a pack of plain spare bases available already, and 3. delayed the release of the ‘premium’ bases until some hazy time late in the year, but I’m trying to make the best of it.

I agree. I too decided that the Priority Expansion bases were to be used for re-basing miniatures. FFG should have had bases released at launch. It seems like such a hastle to remove miniatures and re-base them on premium bases.

I am sure the concern for secondary bases isn't as large a concern for re-basing as it is for basing 3D printed miniatures purchased online. I know I have been seriously considering purchasing some Shore Troopers that I saw on Shapeways to form a squad. The only thing stopping me is that it will cost almost as much as a core set.

Thanks for the tips everyone.

I just bought a bunch of official ones from someone who based with clear bases.

On 8/7/2018 at 11:10 AM, TauntaunScout said:

That really shouldn't matter. If you are using unnoffical bases anyways, what do you care if movement is tweaked by that much? It's too little to impact the outcome of a game. My vehicles all move within that much margin of error now, cause FFG made notched bases fit the movement tool so tight that there was no room to paint the bases.

I think you’ve misunderstood me. I’m not using unofficial bases. I have Imperial Assault and WotC miniatures that I want to be able to proxy into my Legion games, and as I saw it, I couldn’t do that and still have completely accurate movement—and even more importantly since those miniatures are slightly smaller, I couldn’t have anything approaching a similar height—without first re-basing them on Legion’s unusually sized bases.

It’s not just that the diameter of the Legion bases is larger than others, but that they’re significantly taller. This creates visual problems since the Legion miniatures are larger than most others—so when you’re trying to proxy in a short mini on a short base, it looks really out of scale next to a group of tall minis on tall bases. That unfortunate effect can be mitigated by at least re-mounting the little guys so they’re standing on level ground with their big brothers.

24 minutes ago, TheGreenKnight said:

I’m not using unofficial bases. I have Imperial Assault and WotC miniatures that I want to be able to proxy into my Legion games, and as I saw it, I couldn’t do that and still have completely accurate movement—and even more importantly since those miniatures are slightly smaller, I couldn’t have anything approaching a similar height—without first re-basing them on Legion’s unusually sized bases.

You said the rulers were what kept you from rebasing everything to 25mm, that's unnofficial for Legion. I encourage you to use 25mm bases freely in your games.

Wargamers have used different height bases within an army for decades, never occurred to me that was your concern. It's only usually unpleasantly visible during games if you mix the base sizes within a single unit. The easiest way to fix it if if bothers you is to stack an extra (non-sloping) 25mm base underneath your figures to make them taller.

Forget about "completely accurate" movement because it's not a thing. You have way more human error in movement in a given game that what that tiny disparity in the curvature of the edge of the rulers is going to cause. Most people's motor skills aren't that precise. And even if the outcome of your games are coming down to that level of minute measurement, games with dice or other elements of randomness are going to mess it up anyways.

Like I said, I can't fit the ruler "into" my vehicle bases since I painted them. I just have to put it over the notch and move them accordingly. A millimeter gets added or subtracted here or there. That's one of the things in old school tabletop model wargaming. If a range measurement comes down to a millimeter one way or the other, etiquette was always to let the ruler expand that extra bit. That's why a lot of old games didn't say "base to base contact" they said "within an inch" to stop quibbles over that last 1/16th of an inch or whatever.

If you are using non-official models this obviously isn't for tournaments. Use the old smaller bases and game on.

Edited by TauntaunScout
On 8/8/2018 at 5:17 PM, TauntaunScout said:

You said the rulers were what kept you from rebasing everything to 25mm, that's unnofficial for Legion. I encourage you to use 25mm bases freely in your games.

Wargamers have used different height bases within an army for decades, never occurred to me that was your concern. It's only usually unpleasantly visible during games if you mix the base sizes within a single unit. The easiest way to fix it if if bothers you is to stack an extra (non-sloping) 25mm base underneath your figures to make them taller.

Forget about "completely accurate" movement because it's not a thing. You have way more human error in movement in a given game that what that tiny disparity in the curvature of the edge of the rulers is going to cause. Most people's motor skills aren't that precise. And even if the outcome of your games are coming down to that level of minute measurement, games with dice or other elements of randomness are going to mess it up anyways.

Like I said, I can't fit the ruler "into" my vehicle bases since I painted them. I just have to put it over the notch and move them accordingly. A millimeter gets added or subtracted here or there. That's one of the things in old school tabletop model wargaming. If a range measurement comes down to a millimeter one way or the other, etiquette was always to let the ruler expand that extra bit. That's why a lot of old games didn't say "base to base contact" they said "within an inch" to stop quibbles over that last 1/16th of an inch or whatever.

If you are using non-official models this obviously isn't for tournaments. Use the old smaller bases and game on.

I appreciate what you’re saying here, and it was kind of you to spell it all out (I really do mean that genuinely! I’m not being a peevish grumblypants here)—but, although I’m new to this forum, I’m not new to this hobby. I first got into wargaming over twenty years ago, and have modeled and painted many hundreds of miniatures since then. I get that some people are comfortable with the visual effect of freely mixing and matching their bases, and that of course ultimately, it doesn’t matter (this is a game, after all), but everyone has different preferences, and mine just happen to run to uniform bases within a given game or collection of miniatures. Maybe it’s a little OCD, but it’s just what I like. I am planning on using some IA figures mixed into my Legion units (Agent Blaise and the Royal Guard Champion as unit leaders in the upcoming Scout Trooper and Royal Guard squads, for instance, and R2 and Chopper as astromechs in Rebel units), as well as swapping out certain commanders for models I like better (i.e. the totally awesome IA Han Solo). Same goes for some re-painted WotC figures I have (which are also look just a little too scrawny next to Legion minis).

In summary, I don’t play in tournaments, but I do like for measurement to be as accurate as I can make it (and I shruggingly recognize that that’s not actually a big deal), and I also like for units containing mixed-and-matched figures to have uniform bases, so that nobody looks out of place or perpetually has The High Ground. ;)

Edited by TheGreenKnight

Your only choice then is to patronize the makers of the clear bases, hold out until FFG releases scenic bases, or steal some from the supplies box set.

How many do you need? Single digits, dozens, or 100+ ?

5 hours ago, TauntaunScout said:

Your only choice then is to patronize the makers of the clear bases, hold out until FFG releases scenic bases, or steal some from the supplies box set.

How many do you need? Single digits, dozens, or 100+ ?

It’s hard to say in the long run, but for now I think I’ll be fine with the supplies box and then just waiting for the upcoming premium bases. I’ve got a couple of dozen IA and WotC figures that I know for sure I want to use in Legion, and plenty of others that it might be nice to add in eventually. It’d be good to have some plain bases already available, but I can be patient when I need to be. :)

9 hours ago, TheGreenKnight said:

It’s hard to say in the long run, but for now I think I’ll be fine with the supplies box and then just waiting for the upcoming premium bases. I’ve got a couple of dozen IA and WotC figures that I know for sure I want to use in Legion, and plenty of others that it might be nice to add in eventually. It’d be good to have some plain bases already available, but I can be patient when I need to be. :)

Once scenic bases come out, some people will start parting with their unused plain bases.

On 8/5/2018 at 4:40 AM, Proton Torpedo said:

Looking for a couple of extra infantry bases to mount figures on. I know there are scenic bases but are there any generic bases that are the right size that are available? Anything close?

Why not buy the scenic bases and just flock them?

Indeed. I intend to get the scenic bases and do outdoor textures on them. Frankly, I want the extra bases, but I think the provided texture is dumb.

BTW, are these out yet? I haven't seen them at my FLGS yet...

So I decided to use my local library's 3D printer to print a design from thingverse.

Quality was mediocre, with lots of print lines, but nothing that can't be covered with standard basing materials.

Only printed 1 as I was testing it. Total cost was $.27. I figure I got my money's worth.

I will likely do the same thing in the future as it is pretty cheap.