Also, I was going to grab the squad lists and type them up, but I was told they got thrown away. ?
Gen-Con
My Uthuk were base-painted in red for the longest time and it is taking me forever to get any additional paint on them. But I'd think in general, as soon as players of the same faction got some additional paint on the armies, they'd really start to look different.
Great to hear the news. I'm a bit hungry for more, and for a lot more details.
58 minutes ago, Vergilius said:But I'd think in general, as soon as players of the sam e faction got some additional paint on the armies, they'd really start to look different.
I agree. @Parakitor and I are both using the stock color scheme for our Uthuk Y'llan armies, but I can still tell them apart because of our different painting styles, different paint brands used, and different basing. Also, you could always use the number tokens that come in the boxes and makes sure one army uses the white side and the other uses the black side (though banners are admitedly much easier to see and more thematic).
6 hours ago, TallTonyB said:Also, I was going to grab the squad lists and type them up, but I was told they got thrown away. ?
Okay, hopefully most of us are forum posters, then...
Scott C (it's me!) came in 9th and brought:
Aliana with Ambush Predator and Malcorne's Bequest
2x 1-tray Aymhelin Scions
2x 2-tray Deepwood Archers with Fire Rune
6-tray Deepwood Archers with Support Scion, Tempered Steel, and Close Quarters Targeting
3-tray Leonx Riders with Column Tactics
which comes out to 198 points
Round `1 (Meeting Engagement Volatile Runes), I went up against Tom's Uthuk. I was able to feed the Leonx Riders to Ravos to give the 6-tray and Fire Rune archers time to kill him turn 2. I made a couple tactical goofs against his naked Threshers that cost me some points, I think, and Aliana successfully slow-rolled and dodged his Flesh Rippers to keep them from racing across the board to roll up my tender flanks. I came out of that with a 55 point MoV for a 7-4 win. Considering nobody in our tiny (4 players) local scene has actually started playing Uthuk and this was thus my first game against Uthuk, I felt like I handled it pretty well, and walked away happy with my first round.
Second round was Unprepared with Demoralize their Forces. I won the bid against Justin J's Uthuk. I took the risk of leaving the 4 unstable we had at setup despite his warsprinter berserkerstar (whose points I grossly underestimated, though I don't think I could have reasonably just ignored or tar-pitted that 4-threat beast of a unit) to lay into him with the Fire Runes on two 8-initiative shift-skill commands, but then made the rookie mistake of forgetting to dial in the ranged attack on the 6-tray because Close Quarters Targeting was a last-minute swap I did (since I've never really favored it before over Hunter's Guile given the meta I'm used to playing in). That was especially punishing because when the fire rune units shot in to help beat the berserkers up, I got hit or a morale test that stripped the CQT off, so I couldn't even fix my mistake the next round! They were left swinging their 1 melee die against the berserkers, basically whittling each other down to nothing of the rest of the game unaided. He ended the game with the Frontline Spined Thresher, while killing off the rest of that unit. I don't remember what all else I killed, though one of my Scions held off his two-tray Rippers as they whiffed and whiffed against his defense (the surges applying damage separately make them less than ideal matchups without rerolls against armor 3, so that favored me well), and my cats successfully prevented one of his Thresher units from engaging until the very end of the game, when I overcommitted with them and allowed them to get flank-charged. Despite it being a relatively new army for him, he played it fairly well, beat me out on the flank objectives 3-1, and walked away with a 7-4 victory. I can't help but wonder if I'd dialed in that ranged attack on the six-tray, whether I'd have gained enough time back with the Fire Runes to finish off another Spined Thresher unit (and still had some of that archer unit left) to come out with a 6-5 win or something.
Regardless, round 3 saw me paired up with Josh from Initiative One, who treated me to a front-row seat in his advanced seminar entitled "Uthuk are really good at using terrain to cover distance and show up wherever we want to". He won the bid and so we used two of his ginormous Hawthorn fortifications, and I had this thought where I would get a Scion into one and use it to block his Ravos advance... But then Ravos just beat the poor tree senseless, ate its last wound, and then marched into the thing anyways. Next time, I'll stick the second one way out of the way. My cats almost out-smarted his scuttle once, but the scuttle just barely connected with them, negating the 3-range pounce they were ready to do. The Threshers and Ravos abused my poor archers terribly with their red dice, including a nuts-roll 5 hits plus surges on Ravos once against the six-tray. Anyways, he tabled me in four or five rounds, I killed 5 flesh rippers for 32 points. That inauspicious 10-1 loss earned me a bye for the fourth round.
Let me play devil's advocate for a minute.
Does this Uthuk dominance show that they are op? I play against them regularly with Daqan and once in a while can squeak out a win, usually when my friend is trying something new for the fist time. Usually though they are quicker and just punch a lot harder and our games rarely for the full 8 rounds. Now we have Kethra to worry about too. She seems like an infantry mulcher.
58 minutes ago, Darkjawa said:Let me play devil's advocate for a minute.
Does this Uthuk dominance show that they are op? I play against them regularly with Daqan and once in a while can squeak out a win, usually when my friend is trying something new for the fist time. Usually though they are quicker and just punch a lot harder and our games rarely for the full 8 rounds. Now we have Kethra to worry about too. She seems like an infantry mulcher.
I, too, am concerned, but I've also had a fair number of losses with Uthuk. However, that was when all I had was two Uthuk Y'llan Army Expansions and an Infantry Command pack. I think it would be interesting to carry on this conversation in another thread and discuss just what it is that makes them seem so powerful.
IMO, one thing that makes them so good is that they don't let you set up, which a lot of other factions like to do. For a good long time in the game you could spend at least one turn, if not two or three, rallying/reforming/shifting to get the facing you want. Uthuk can be one you so fast, and ravos giving panic tokens at the start means you are usually on the defensive right off the bat. I think a lot of players are still adjusting to that. I know that's my problem with them anyway. I need to play them myself a bit, that always shows me their weaknesses....
Top 4:
Ravos, berserker star, scuttling threshers
Vs
Maro, archers, brainwashed threshers, obcasiums knights
Ravos, dispatch runner berserkers, threshers
Vs
Aliana, archers, group of trees, some kitties
Edited by TallTonyBCoruption rune on the undead archers gives ravos a couple of immobilize tokens. Holds him off maro for a bit, but the berserk star insta-kills the deathknights before they can trigger obcasiums. Eventually ravos has his way and eats maro. Uthuk win.
4 minutes ago, TallTonyB said:Coruption rune on the undead archers gives ravos a couple of immobilize tokens. Holds him off maro for a bit, but the berserk star insta-kills the deathknights before they can trigger obcasiums. Eventually ravos has his way and eats maro. Uthuk win.
Early in the match, 2 tray Rippers flanked (no charge) the 4 tray archers. On next turn, reform+corruption Rune, Ankaur brings in 4 trays. One the following turn, Rippers kill some and then archers paste them with CQT
Edited by Church14Final casualties for my game 1:
1 Thresher off Zoidberg 1
1 Thresher off Zoidberg 2. Second thresher had 3 wounds
Berserkers lost 4 trays
Rippers Dead.
Ravos untouched.
Waiqar tabled on turn 8. Berserkers killed Death Knights and 6 trays archers. Thresher 2 killed brainwashed Threshers. Thresher 1 killed 6 tray archers from a flank. Ravos used end of turn to kill Maro after Maro took 4 wounds adding trays. Ravos finished the last tray of archers.
In the other game, a good bit of blood was shed, cats chased dogs, ravos chased cats, and aliana just took too much damage from dispatch runner activated threshers. Uthuk win the day.
Final game, uthuk vs uthuk.
Confluance of magic
Standoff
Pillaged cart/crumbling wall/blighted ground
Edited by TallTonyB
What was the objective and deployment of the first finals match?
Uthuk win 31-28. Congrats Church!
26 minutes ago, TallTonyB said:Uthuk win 31-28. Congrats Church!
Tourney is points destroyed. So 172-169.
There was a single Berserker worth 10 points of upgrades and a wounded single Thresher left for TGall and I had a 3x1 of Berserkers left with figure upgrades for a total 31 points
Edited by Church14Congratulations @Church14 !
And I assume the others in top 4 played stellar as well!
Edit: I would LOVE to have a 16 player tournament here! I'm jealous.
Edited by MaktoriusCongrats on the win! And thanks to everyone who provided reports.
3 pt final match is pretty epic.
@Church14 what was the objective and deployment of the first round of the finals?
Does anyone have more info on the best (and only as I understand) Waiqar participant?
Maro - violent forces, fortunas dice
Death knights 2x1 - obcasiums gauntlet
Archers 2x2 - close quarters targeting, corruption rune
Archers 3x2 - close quarters targeting, corruption rune
Spined threshers 2x1
I gained a lot of respect for corruption rune watching how he played it. He was really good.
21 minutes ago, TallTonyB said:Maro - violent forces, fortunas dice
Death knights 2x1 - obcasiums gauntlet
Archers 2x2 - close quarters targeting, corruption rune
Archers 3x2 - close quarters targeting, corruption rune
Spined threshers 2x1
I gained a lot of respect for corruption rune watching how he played it. He was really good.
Thanks! That is very interesting. I would bet he is an excellent player. I have a hard time picturing that amount of ranged units standing up to Uthuk, who is in your face immediately. In my personal experience Reanimate archers and Ankaur is not that cost effective melee infantry, even with CQT
Actually, I imagine any cav should also be able to get engaged without getting shot at. Probably excellent terrain placement, deployment and blocking (with the DK's and ST's) from the Waiqar player.
Would love to see a video or read a write up of him beating Uthuk if possible.
5 hours ago, Brikhause said:@Church14 what was the objective and deployment of the first round of the finals?
Meeting engagement (both sides 1 Deep) and Volatile Runes.
Round 2 was the deployment that looks like Armada. 5 in from each edge and 4 deep. Objective was confluence.
Edited by Church141 hour ago, Church14 said:Meeting engagement (both sides 1 Deep) and Volatile Runes.
Round 2 was the deployment that looks like Armada. 5 in from each edge and 4 deep. Objective was confluence.
I noticed that you run V. Goblet on Ravos, how much did they come into effect for you at Gen Con?
My experience at the moment just leads me to feel like it's 7 points for 1 extra wound.