When I posted that - it was the final table from YESTERDAY - so not the FINAL table.

Whew! Pretty intense

Indeed it was! Great to see so many familiar faces, it was almost like a mini worlds!

7 hours ago, Crabbok said:

When I posted that - it was the final table from YESTERDAY - so not the FINAL table.

Does that mean there are still finals to happen?

I want to make one of these one of these days... Would be amazing to lose to most of you all. I figure many of you want to Humble me ?

That is a damned spicy list, @JJs Juggernaut. Very nice.

11 hours ago, Ardaedhel said:

That is a damned spicy list, @JJs Juggernaut. Very nice.

We need to start a gofundme to get @JJs Juggernaut some better dice. He'll be unstoppable.

4 hours ago, rasproteus said:

We need to start a gofundme to get @JJs Juggernaut some better dice. He'll be unstoppable.

I dont think we need to make him unstoppable... i am up for gofunding even worse dice though!

Based on the notes I have there were 9 different admirals in the Top 9 finishers. That’s pretty cool.

15 minutes ago, shmitty said:

Based on the notes I have there were 9 different admirals in the Top 9 finishers. That’s pretty cool.

That's really good. We haven't had it that diverse before have we?

On 8/5/2018 at 7:20 PM, Ginkapo said:

JJ:

Mc30 T
Ordnance Experts
Assault Proton Torps
h9 Turbolasers
Admontion

Hammerhead Torp
Ordnance Experts
External Racks

Gr75
Slicer tools

Mc75 Ordnance
Strategic Advisor
Ordnance Experts
Electronic Countermeasures
External Racks
Assault Proton Torps
Profundity

Cr90A
Admiral Raddus
Hondo
Turbolaser Reroute Circuits

Gr75
Comms Net

Station Assault, Contested Outpost, Dangerous Territory

386

few questions with the @JJs Juggernaut's list, you or what else see de tournament, prefer go first or second? Why Station assault than most wanted? For the points? For know where the rival are going to be? And Hondo? Why not Jaina's for the same two points? I like the list, but I want to understand it.

7 hours ago, shmitty said:

Based on the notes I have there were 9 different admirals in the Top 9 finishers. That’s pretty cool.

I don't think that's correct. I was 8th and Nate Coda was (I believe?) 5th, and we were both running Rieekan.

6 hours ago, Sharego said:

few questions with the @JJs Juggernaut's list, you or what else see de tournament, prefer go first or second? Why Station assault than most wanted? For the points? For know where the rival are going to be? And Hondo? Why not Jaina's for the same two points? I like the list, but I want to understand it.

He definitely chose first player when he was given the option. And I expect he would have jainas light in the next iteration of the list.

34 minutes ago, Snipafist said:

I don't think that's correct. I was 8th and Nate Coda was (I believe?) 5th, and we were both running Rieekan.

And we all hate you both for it...

j/k

?

52 minutes ago, Snipafist said:

I don't think that's correct. I was 8th and Nate Coda was (I believe?) 5th, and we were both running Rieekan.

If you go to 10th, I believe I was the only Garm in that group which means 9 different admirals out of 10.

32 minutes ago, moodswing5537 said:

And we all hate you both for it...

j/k

?

Both were Rieekan MSU, rather than aceholes, if that makes you feel any better ?.

1 hour ago, Snipafist said:

I don't think that's correct. I was 8th and Nate Coda was (I believe?) 5th, and we were both running Rieekan.

Ah crap, you’re right. Somehow had you with Big D in my notes.

But 9 different admirals in the Top 10 is still really solid.

4 minutes ago, Snipafist said:

Both were Rieekan MSU, rather than aceholes, if that makes you feel any better ?.

okay...this helps a little...

7 hours ago, Sharego said:

few questions with the @JJs Juggernaut's list, you or what else see de tournament, prefer go first or second? Why Station assault than most wanted? For the points? For know where the rival are going to be? And Hondo? Why not Jaina's for the same two points? I like the list, but I want to understand it.

Also: strat. Adviser on the ship you jump in?
Y not Lando or something different?

9 minutes ago, Doppelganger said:

Also: strat. Adviser on the ship you jump in?
Y not Lando or something different?

I can say that both of my games against @JJs Juggernaut would have gone much more smoothly if he'd had nearly any other upgrade in that slot.

I think Iget it but can you spell out how it was used?

15 minutes ago, Doppelganger said:

I think Iget it but can you spell out how it was used?

I brought six activations, SA gave him seven. Not only was he able to deploy Profundity in a strong position, but he was also able to dictate the engagement afterward. I think most players would use the Raddus drop to place it with a double arc in close range, but he forced me to move INTO range and guaranteed a last-first shot due to activation advantage.

Forget i asked I am not on my game this week.

On ‎8‎/‎8‎/‎2018 at 1:45 AM, Sharego said:

few questions with the @JJs Juggernaut's list, you or what else see de tournament, prefer go first or second? Why Station assault than most wanted? For the points? For know where the rival are going to be? And Hondo? Why not Jaina's for the same two points? I like the list, but I want to understand it.

First was definitely preferred. Going second were the games I was most worried about as I had a lot of close range ships.

Station assault allows me to dictate the flow of combat more, as I can drive my opponent to a specific place. Also with raddus you can often force them to choose between the stations or engaging your fleet. Most wanted is also less strong against Raddus, so I chose to avoid it in case of a mirror match.

Hondo won me the final elimination game by providing a CF token to reroll my final hit against Black Squadron. He's worth the points (though he has backfired one me before...). Jaina's was an oversight on my part, forgot about that title....It would have gotten me numerous extra shots over the tournament and it didn't really effect the bids I came up against. I was either going against bids>395 or bids<382

On ‎8‎/‎8‎/‎2018 at 9:40 AM, Doppelganger said:

Also: strat. Adviser on the ship you jump in?
Y not Lando or something different?

Strategic adviser was a very strong card for me this tournament. It gave me that extra push to avoid squadron pushes from low activation fleets, and also to out activate the large number of 4-6 activation fleets. A couple games I'd raddus Admonition just to be able to use SA for activation advantage, since I'd have the Hammerhead tucked away as well. I did a lot of turn 2 drops via aggressive Quantum Storm movement or CR90 at speed 4 to allow me to achieve activation parity/advantage. Since you can use Profundity to place the Hammerhead and then Raddus to place the MC30 you can still cover a lot of ground with the smaller base.

Also I often wouldn't place my ships directly in front of my opponents at close range, since I could use activations to force them into me without taking so much damage, something I had to be very cognizant about when I had no squadron cover.

13 hours ago, JJs Juggernaut said:

First was definitely preferred. Going second were the games I was most worried about as I had a lot of close range ships.

Station assault allows me to dictate the flow of combat more, as I can drive my opponent to a specific place. Also with raddus you can often force them to choose between the stations or engaging your fleet. Most wanted is also less strong against Raddus, so I chose to avoid it in case of a mirror match.

Hondo won me the final elimination game by providing a CF token to reroll my final hit against Black Squadron. He's worth the points (though he has backfired one me before...). Jaina's was an oversight on my part, forgot about that title....It would have gotten me numerous extra shots over the tournament and it didn't really effect the bids I came up against. I was either going against bids>395 or bids<382

Strategic adviser was a very strong card for me this tournament. It gave me that extra push to avoid squadron pushes from low activation fleets, and also to out activate the large number of 4-6 activation fleets. A couple games I'd raddus Admonition just to be able to use SA for activation advantage, since I'd have the Hammerhead tucked away as well. I did a lot of turn 2 drops via aggressive Quantum Storm movement or CR90 at speed 4 to allow me to achieve activation parity/advantage. Since you can use Profundity to place the Hammerhead and then Raddus to place the MC30 you can still cover a lot of ground with the smaller base.

Also I often wouldn't place my ships directly in front of my opponents at close range, since I could use activations to force them into me without taking so much damage, something I had to be very cognizant about when I had no squadron cover.

Thank you very much for the explanation, now I have clear what do you want with the list, I 'm eager to see you with the next iteration of this list o another new one.