Is Palpatine Essential to own?

By Norsehound, in Star Wars: Armada

11 minutes ago, Lyraeus said:

He would be amazing in a MSU list... @geek19 if you tried Palpy in a Glad list with Kitten backup you may actually find an interesting set of results. Forcing his token decision turn after turn can be a decisive factor... Hmmmm

Rebel only, dude. I'll let someone else try MSU Heart Palpitations.

You can tell I am out of practice in list building as well as out of date with the effectiveness of cards... Blah. Here is v1 of Master of Oppression.

I really wish I could get Intel Officers on the kittens and Glad

Master of Oppression
Author: Lyraeus

Faction: Galactic Empire
Points: 388/400

Commander: Emperor Palpatine

Assault Objective: Targeting Beacons
Defense Objective: Planetary Ion Cannon
Navigation Objective: Solar Corona

Gladiator I-Class Star Destroyer (56 points)
- Demolisher ( 10 points)
- Ordnance Experts ( 4 points)
- Assault Proton Torpedoes ( 5 points)
= 75 total ship cost

Imperial Star Destroyer Cymoon 1 Refit(112 points)
- Minister Tua ( 2 points)
- Gunnery Team ( 7 points)
- Hardened Bulkheads ( 5 points)
- Electronic Countermeasures ( 7 points)
- X17 Turbolasers ( 6 points)
- Intensify Firepower! ( 6 points)
= 145 total ship cost

Gozanti-class Cruisers (23 points)
- Comms Net ( 2 points)
= 25 total ship cost

Arquitens-class Light Cruiser (54 points)
= 54 total ship cost

[ flagship ] Arquitens-class Light Cruiser(54 points)
- Emperor Palpatine ( 35 points)
= 89 total ship cost

7 hours ago, Lyraeus said:

You can tell I am out of practice in list building as well as out of date with the effectiveness of cards... Blah. Here is v1 of Master of Oppression.

I really wish I could get Intel Officers on the kittens and Glad

Master of Oppression
Author: Lyraeus

Faction: Galactic Empire
Points: 388/400

Commander: Emperor Palpatine

Assault Objective: Targeting Beacons
Defense Objective: Planetary Ion Cannon
Navigation Objective: Solar Corona

Gladiator I-Class Star Destroyer (56 points)
- Demolisher ( 10 points)
- Ordnance Experts ( 4 points)
- Assault Proton Torpedoes ( 5 points)
= 75 total ship cost

Imperial Star Destroyer Cymoon 1 Refit(112 points)
- Minister Tua ( 2 points)
- Gunnery Team ( 7 points)
- Hardened Bulkheads ( 5 points)
- Electronic Countermeasures ( 7 points)
- X17 Turbolasers ( 6 points)
- Intensify Firepower! ( 6 points)
= 145 total ship cost

Gozanti-class Cruisers (23 points)
- Comms Net ( 2 points)
= 25 total ship cost

Arquitens-class Light Cruiser (54 points)
= 54 total ship cost

[ flagship ] Arquitens-class Light Cruiser(54 points)
- Emperor Palpatine ( 35 points)
= 89 total ship cost

Looks almost like @rasproteus gencon list. Rasp, you think vader is better over Palp, or you think in the future maybe Palp and IF to even out the reds would be a potential path?

5 hours ago, BrobaFett said:

Looks almost like @rasproteus gencon list. Rasp, you think vader is better over Palp, or you think in the future maybe Palp and IF to even out the reds would be a potential path?

Is it? I knew there was a list with 2 arquitens but I didn't remember the full thing... Tsk... Now I feel like a copy.

32 minutes ago, Lyraeus said:

Is it? I knew there was a list with 2 arquitens but I didn't remember the full thing... Tsk... Now I feel like a copy.

Think that great minds think a like :)

2 minutes ago, Sharego said:

Think that great minds think a like :)

Guess so... I just prefer highly unique concepts but I guess Imperials still have issues there.

There's synergy between palpatine and xi7 - like the io/xi7 liberties.

I don't know if the arqs will do enough damage on their own to force a discard. Certainly nobody will discard a brace on three damage.

2 hours ago, rasproteus said:

There's synergy between palpatine and xi7 - like the io/xi7 liberties.

I don't know if the arqs will do enough damage on their own to force a discard. Certainly nobody will discard a brace on three damage.

I think this might be the real effect and why he probably goes well with more ships. Folks might brace that 3 damage at the end of a round to save the last shield or prevent a crit. But if you have to discard that brace and Demo is moving closer you probably just take it and hope for the best.

7 minutes ago, draco193 said:

I think this might be the real effect and why he probably goes well with more ships. Folks might brace that 3 damage at the end of a round to save the last shield or prevent a crit. But if you have to discard that brace and Demo is moving closer you probably just take it and hope for the best.

Yup. People Will brace when they expect lower damage the remainder of the turn. What I want is TRC's on the ARQ's to get 4 damage with the IF! because people will want to brace that more. Especially if its coming from two targets.

41 minutes ago, Lyraeus said:

Yup. People Will brace when they expect lower damage the remainder of the turn. What I want is TRC's on the ARQ's to get 4 damage with the IF! because people will want to brace that more. Especially if its coming from two targets.

IF! Doesn't work with double hits.

14 minutes ago, TallGiraffe said:

IF! Doesn't work with double hits.

In fairness to Lyraeus, he may have factored in the 94.7% chance of getting at least one hit on three red dice to assume at least 4 damage.

21 minutes ago, Lochlan said:

In fairness to Lyraeus, he may have factored in the 94.7% chance of getting at least one hit on three red dice to assume at least 4 damage.

It doesn't? Odd. Huh well that changes a little bit of things but not much.

32 minutes ago, Lyraeus said:

It doesn't? Odd. Huh well that changes a little bit of things but not much.

In that case, yeah it specifically states "...1 (hit) icon and no other icons."

45 minutes ago, Lyraeus said:

It doesn't? Odd. Huh well that changes a little bit of things but not much.

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Edited by TallGiraffe
22 minutes ago, TallGiraffe said:

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Well we all know I am an idiot. I will just go stay silent in a corner.