Rebels will not get a huge ship

By Crabbok, in Star Wars: Armada

I haven’t been able to keep up with the new canon books and comics. Is there a huge rebel ship in there? (Is that where the Lucrehulk comes from?)

And with Lucasfilm creating new canon all the time now, there is no reason a ship can’t be inserted now. With the final Clone Wars season rotating around an epic battle on Mandalore, we could see something there that would exist close to the Galactic Civil War

Finally, I see no reason why FFG couldn’t insert some huge MonCal ship that was “in development” during the events of ROTJ.

Point is, there are many options. It just needs to be fun.

5 hours ago, Piratical Moustache said:

Everybody says that the Venator's large hangers would be problematic for Squadron balance, but this guy here would be like Squadrons 8.

I liked the old EU story of the Fortressa unloading 500 X-Wings on the Death Star. Certainly helps explain why so few TIE fighters were present during the Battle of Yavin.

2 hours ago, xanderf said:

Ehhh...it's squadron total is about the same as the Super Star Destroyer, and we've obviously got that coming.

(And if FFG did do this ship, I would imagine they'd love to include that as a title, too - so we'd get at least Lucrehulk Prime and Fortressa as titles for it.)

Except he's wrong - as noted, the 'Dr Aphra' comics are canon, and the Rebels definitely have a huge ship in them. The Lucrehulk Prime was where Hera Syndulla was training new Rebel pilots.

It bugs me that the "max capacity" of vulture droids is listed as 1500, that would take up a tiny portion of the hanger. Normal capacity would have made me much happier. Talking about a rebel Lucrehulk that doesn't matter as much, but in both situations it would only be limited by how many fighters are avalibe, not how many it could hold when full.

Because I like doing stuff like this, just using the front 1/3rd area and leaving 50 feet between X-Wings on all sides it could fit 700 of them. At that point its just how many the rebels have ready to use with it. (thats also not counting all the storage areas, hopefully that doesn't drive me crazy trying to figure that out.)

Keep in mind huge base ships might not have all of the same base sizes... there could be some variation in size and shape.

2 hours ago, WhatsArmadaWithYou said:

I haven’t been able to keep up with the new canon books and comics. Is there a huge rebel ship in there? (Is that where the Lucrehulk comes from?)

And with Lucasfilm creating new canon all the time now, there is no reason a ship can’t be inserted now. With the final Clone Wars season rotating around an epic battle on Mandalore, we could see something there that would exist close to the Galactic Civil War

Finally, I see no reason why FFG couldn’t insert some huge MonCal ship that was “in development” during the events of ROTJ.

Point is, there are many options. It just needs to be fun.

The Lucrehulk was used by the Rebels, yeah - but I'm sure you've seen it before? It first appeared in the movie Episode I, and then again in III, and made frequent appearances during the Clone Wars TV series - in these cases, all flown by Separatists. But after the Clone Wars, some came into Rebel hands.

As to other ships - no, I doubt it. Remember that the retail price of the ISD is $50 while the SSD is going to be $200 - given that, even the Lucrehulk and Resurgent-class are going to be in the $100-ish range on their own, and nobody buys a model that expensive in quantities FFG needs to move if it hasn't been seen on-screen. Even the Imperial Raider for X-Wing shipped with the "fix" for the TIE Advanced as well as Emperor Palpatine as a crew (both definitely seen on-screen).

7 hours ago, xanderf said:

The Lucrehulk was used by the Rebels, yeah - but I'm sure you've seen it before? It first appeared in the movie Episode I, and then again in III, and made frequent appearances during the Clone Wars TV series - in these cases, all flown by Separatists. But after the Clone Wars, some came into Rebel hands.

As to other ships - no, I doubt it. Remember that the retail price of the ISD is $50 while the SSD is going to be $200 - given that, even the Lucrehulk and Resurgent-class are going to be in the $100-ish range on their own, and nobody buys a model that expensive in quantities FFG needs to move if it hasn't been seen on-screen. Even the Imperial Raider for X-Wing shipped with the "fix" for the TIE Advanced as well as Emperor Palpatine as a crew (both definitely seen on-screen).

LOL of course I’ve seen a droid control ship. I thought the Lucrehulk was the name of a specific ship, but it’s apparently the CLASS. Soooo I’m obviously an OT era person. But I agree with your analysis. Not sure I’d drop $100+ for a ship I don’t know and some upgrade cards.

Its not as well known as the Viscount but I would prefer to see the Mediator or maybe the Mon Remonda class of MC's as Rebel "huge" ships. The Mon Remonda was not large but she was the lead ship in the hunt for Zsinj and we could get Admiral Solo with that... which would be REALLY fun. The Mediator is quite a bit smaller than an SSD but it is basically a baby Viscount... so in terms of shields and firepower it would be a pretty good match. I like the IDEA of the Viscount for Rebels... but I don't like that is is better in every way to an Executor. I feel like a Rebel ship should never be flat out more powerful than a Imperial.

On 8/4/2018 at 1:47 PM, xanderf said:

Actually, this is easy enough to do with some...

[grabs some pics around the 'net, scales them in Photoshop]

...here we go:

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Convert the scaling to the FFG sliding scale and it gets a little different with the size relations between the SSD and the Lucrehulk.

Huge ships dont necessarily need to be the same base size for each huge ship. I could see the Lucrehulk having a wider version of a large base for example. Remember that it could probably take on a couple star destroyers and win. (Unlike the executor which would be a curb stomp)

The executor needs to be scaled down to work properly, but the level it is scaled down to is probably around the lucrehulks actual power level.

I think Huge ship is a class that we should keep for truly huge ships. Lets say 10 km and up. If we want ships like the Lucrehulk and Resurgent we need a new size class above large like very large.

26 minutes ago, LordCola said:

I think Huge ship is a class that we should keep for truly huge ships. Lets say 10 km and up. If we want ships like the Lucrehulk and Resurgent we need a new size class above large like very large.

Extra large? ?

1 hour ago, ISD Avenger said:

Extra large? ?

Wumbo?

In before Bigly/Yuge meme

Just realized how frustrated I am that they wasted the term "huge" on this ship instead of using "epic". Lol man @Drasnighta I WANT to be positive but this release already seems like the equivalent of tripping on a curb and face planting into the sidewalk.


Whatever, CIS is going to be announced after resistance drops and the robots have been shown to have discovered a star forge where they can start making trouble from again. (boom, you're welcome to my idea disney)

12 hours ago, cynanbloodbane said:

Convert the scaling to the FFG sliding scale and it gets a little different with the size relations between the SSD and the Lucrehulk.

Big square base maybe, with 8 arcs (line at each cardinal direction)? It could work.

18 hours ago, Npmartian said:

Big square base maybe, with 8 arcs (line at each cardinal direction)? It could work.

See. I don't think FFG is willing to make a new base simply for a single ship (baring the SSD cause it is the SSD)