I really, truly, hope that this won't have any really strong, must-buy upgrades. Not that I won't try to get it, but I don't want to be forced to buy a $200 dollar pack for one upgrade in a game that I (rather unfortunately) won't be able to play much anymore. X-Wing 1st Edition had a similar problem with the Raider expansion and the Emperor Palpatine crew card, and I'm hoping this won't be a similar sitiuation. Personally, I'd like to see the SSD in its own Epic format, along with Palpatine and Piett being exclusively for that format. Anybody else with me or am I paranoid?

Hmmm, please all of the other SSD naysayers come to this thread so that I can bask in your anguish.

One of the things I would say distinguishes Armada from X-Wing, especially as it ages, is that Armada does not really have "must have" upgrades in the same way. There are ones that are nice to have, but you can certainly make fleets without, say, TRCs or ECMs, and do just fine. Expect the same going forward with the SSD. There will be solid upgrades that you might very much want, but I doubt any will be mandatory to be competitive.

8 minutes ago, Mikael Hasselstein said:

Hmmm, please all of the other SSD naysayers come to this thread so that I can bask in your anguish.

Bet you a dollar this aint worth its points in hammerheads ?

amirite??!

7 minutes ago, PodRacer said:

Bet you a dollar this aint worth its points in hammerheads ?

amirite??!

I look forward to killing one with hammerheads, yes.

I thought this would be about transporting it. I need to buy a new case for it, and it alone.

maybe I should paint little dead rebels on the side?

6 minutes ago, geek19 said:

I look forward to killing one with hammerheads, yes.

Safe to say Hardened bulkheads will make their points back in the next wave!

7 minutes ago, geek19 said:

I look forward to killing one with hammerheads, yes.

Kill it with an A-wing to get some pure lore-based salt

My only true concern, is the look when new players see it sitting next to the core set. Its a big buy... or the first SC this thing flies in... actually... I might get one just to do that.

26 minutes ago, PodRacer said:

Bet you a dollar this aint worth its points in hammerheads ?

amirite??!

To be fair, Hammerheads aren't worth their points in Hammerheads....

26 minutes ago, PodRacer said:

Bet you a dollar this aint worth its points in hammerheads ?

amirite??!

I mean, it will likely take near your entire list in 400 point games and gets three attacks out as opposed to whatever kind of ships the other player is running. Hopefully though with its dice loud out it can pop ships decently. Though, unless it can fire out of its arcs multiple times I think Gunnery Team will be a must have for it.

A lot of the upgrades are reprints or titles.

Only the commanders and officers seem unique to this expansion.

And Admiral Motti from Wave 1 is still a commander everyone uses for a general good stuff Imperial Fleet.

3 minutes ago, MasterShake2 said:

To be fair, Hammerheads aren't worth their points in Hammerheads....

I doubt I'l be saying that when my SSD is pinned in by Quantum storm and Garel and the boys come knocking. =P

3 minutes ago, PodRacer said:

I doubt I'l be saying that when my SSD is pinned in by Quantum storm and Garel and the boys come knocking. =P

This guy knows what's up. Cham seems fun with 4 command...

I just said this in another thread but it looks like all the 'generic' upgrades are reprints that you can get in other ships.

But yeah, if you really want the emperor or piett etc you are going to have to get one of these. I cant blame them for that.

3 minutes ago, MasterShake2 said:

To be fair, Hammerheads aren't worth their points in Hammerheads....

5 scout hammerheads is:

- 25 hull,

- 15 forward dice (10 red, 5 blue) out of one arc.

- 164 pts.

So if the SSD is, 200-250 pts alone... thats six hammerheads? Seven. Its a lot of hammerheads. You would way out activate any SSD fleet.

3 minutes ago, Ling27 said:

5 scout hammerheads is:

- 25 hull,

- 15 forward dice (10 red, 5 blue) out of one arc.

- 164 pts.

So if the SSD is, 200-250 pts alone... thats six hammerheads? Seven. Its a lot of hammerheads. You would way out activate any SSD fleet.

But they just die, brah! I ran them right at the SSDs face and they exploded! Thus, SSD OP pls nerf.

6 minutes ago, geek19 said:

But they just die, brah! I ran them right at the SSDs face and they exploded! Thus, SSD OP pls nerf.

Oh, you dont follow the Ling meathod... some call it the Tarkin Doctrine, but I call it the Ling Meathod...

"Go forth my ships, fly forward while gunning until you die. If you ram something and break formation, thats on you... the formation will hold..."

7 minutes ago, geek19 said:

But they just die, brah! I ran them right at the SSDs face and they exploded! Thus, SSD OP pls nerf.

Didn't matter SSD base so big it flies off the back in three turns anyway. You just gotta stay alive long enough to see it happen.

Pick Blockade Run or I'm ******!

2 minutes ago, PodRacer said:

Didn't matter SSD base so big it flies off the back in three turns anyway. You just gotta stay alive long enough to see it happen.

Pick Blockade Run or I'm ******!

maybe the new rules will be the SSD is the only ship that can use defense tokens at speed 0. No need to move just let them come to you

Maybe If I go first and pick fleet ambush then can't deploy without hitting debris, I can just leave it in the box??

Gunnery Teams and an accuracy build will outright tell the small ship swarm to ***K OFF right away.

My guess, it's gonna be an anchor ship with a bunch of pickets...you slow people down and smash them with red dice.

I'd run this with a dictor and titus to slow people down...then smash them with reds.

52 minutes ago, geek19 said:

I look forward to killing one with hammerheads, yes.

We have Arvel in the game, right?

5 hours ago, FlyingAnchors said:

We have Arvel in the game, right?

Hah! Arvel Crynyd is not a pilot in Armada! Take that, A-Wing one shot fans!!

If the SSD ends up having another C-3PO/Emperor Palpatine-like I-have-to-get-this-essential-to-be-competitive... at least rebel players won't be under such pressure to grab a pack like this. Then again between Rieekan and Raddus, I think they have everything they need.

Just wait till Light side gets Admiral Holdo.

One shotting Imperial Flagships for days!