Other hand, when he comes back and claims cop its because of all the practice hes been getting ?
MAFIA - Depths of Coruscant
11 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:Did you read the setup document?
We have two cops. On sane, one insane. The sane one gets true results, the insane one gets opposite results. They are not told which they are.
Pod has claimed cop, and said he got a scum result from his pregame investigation of Jabbawookie. By killing Jabbawookie, and seeing his flop, Pod would be able to determine what his sanity is. It would also allow our second cop to know their sanity, by process of elimination.
I got all this I don't understand why after you say it would help the other cop you also say we would waste the test if scum kill the claimed cop. We would have the other with his sanity "proved", isn't it?
17 minutes ago, PodRacer said:B)This is not a good game in which to be a Cop, especially If you overanalyze everything as I do. My theory is an eye for an eye is a town win. And this path helps the other cop decide his play better as they can collect two results and know their sanity.
5 vanilla townies is all we are, indeed.
3 minutes ago, ovinomanc3r said:I got all this I don't understand why after you say it would help the other cop you also say we would waste the test if scum kill the claimed cop. We would have the other with his sanity "proved", isn't it?
Okay, I missed the pregame investigate.
I agree with Ovi here. I also feel like Jabba has been very quiet, only posting like twice post-claim that I saw. So in the interest of making sure our cops get good results I don't mind voting on him.
##vote The Jabbawookie
@The Jabbawookie you want to hop in here and talk some?
Let's think on one think:
We lynch Jabba. We fail. Cops check themselves. One cop dies (Pod). We must guess right and we are lucky enough to get a positive investigation from our other cop. He claims. Another one counterclaim. Bad numbers and I am not even accounting the framer.
On the other hand if the second cop also claims we will have two results on d2 and one proved town (the surviving cop). Counterclaiming d2 would be useless and even if we lynch town today the numbers could be better (here I am actually asking you if they would be) d2. Also not considering the framer.
@PodRacer - (0)
@Madaghmire - (1) - Ovi
@ovinomanc3r - (0)
@Caldias - (1) - Ovi, Preyer
@Lord Preyer - (1)- Gnips, Mad
@The Jabbawookie - (1) - Pod, Cal
@GhostofNobodyInParticular - (0)
4 to hammer
##unvote
Actually this also occurred to me. It's possible Jabba is our other cop, and if he is, then that would be really bad for us.
^^ sure, but shouldn't we put the emphasis on him to make that claim??
I will probably be unavailable until day's end.
Since the Jabba thing needs time and discussion to resolve, I shall not risk voting him. Thus, I shall keep my vote on LP for lack of anywhere else to put it.
1 minute ago, PodRacer said:^^ sure, but shouldn't we put the emphasis on him to make that claim??
Yes but I'm also worried about our two scum bros jumping on Jabba and a Hail Mary attempt to nab a cop. I paint him earlier, so hopefully he shows up. If he doesn't show up with like 30 minutes to go I'll put my vote back on.
Sorry guys, just woke up. I’m 100% vanilla town, and you’re making an expensive mistake if you kill me. I can’t really prove much when someone claims cop with a scum result on me as the first vote of the game. But this setup has a decent chance of Pod’s guess being wrong, if he’s a cop. Or with two cops, it could be an audacious scum play.
33 minutes ago, The Jabbawookie said:Sorry guys, just woke up. I’m 100% vanilla town, and you’re making an expensive mistake if you kill me. I can’t really prove much when someone claims cop with a scum result on me as the first vote of the game. But this setup has a decent chance of Pod’s guess being wrong, if he’s a cop. Or with two cops, it could be an audacious scum play.
That's true, he could totally just be a scum. Without the other cop claiming we can't know for sure. And I really don't think we want to have the other cop claim yet. So I'm not sure where this leaves us.
1 hour ago, Madaghmire said:The only thing staying my hand right now is that I don’t want to kill poor jabba d1 again. Poor guy has barely gotten a chance to play.
I would switch my vote to Jabba now for the same reason but feel that lynching him D1 would just be so super harsh to the poor guy. In a way I’d rather you’d lynch me so he would at least get to play (although I’d still much prefer us to lynch scum!!).
I am Vanilla Town.
16 minutes ago, Caldias said:That's true, he could totally just be a scum. Without the other cop claiming we can't know for sure. And I really don't think we want to have the other cop claim yet. So I'm not sure where this leaves us.
voting Mad I guess
1 hour ago, EbonHawk said:@PodRacer - (0)
@Madaghmire - (1) - Ovi
@ovinomanc3r - (0)
@Caldias - (0) -
Ovi,Preyer@Lord Preyer - (1)- Gnips,
Mad@The Jabbawookie - (1) - Pod,
Cal@GhostofNobodyInParticular - (0)
4 to hammer
1 hour left.
Edited by EbonHawk##unvote @Caldias
I do not want us to miss a lynch and seeing as no one is following me down this path as prepared to switch.
12 minutes ago, ovinomanc3r said:voting Mad I guess
You have yet to issue a defensible reason to lynch me. You jumped on train that didnt even exist and when asked why you were just like “shrug, meme”
Thats not scum hunting, thats trying to take an experienced player off the board.
1 hour ago, ovinomanc3r said:I got all this I don't understand why after you say it would help the other cop you also say we would waste the test if scum kill the claimed cop. We would have the other with his sanity "proved", isn't it?
Yes, I meant wasted in respect to Podracer, who would likely be dead.
1 hour ago, ovinomanc3r said:Let's think on one think:
We lynch Jabba. We fail. Cops check themselves. One cop dies (Pod). We must guess right and we are lucky enough to get a positive investigation from our other cop. He claims. Another one counterclaim. Bad numbers and I am not even accounting the framer.
On the other hand if the second cop also claims we will have two results on d2 and one proved town (the surviving cop). Counterclaiming d2 would be useless and even if we lynch town today the numbers could be better (here I am actually asking you if they would be) d2. Also not considering the framer.
What does “we lynch jabba, we fail” mean?
2 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:What does “we lynch jabba, we fail” mean?
the hypothesis
2 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:You have yet to issue a defensible reason to lynch me. You jumped on train that didnt even exist and when asked why you were just like “shrug, meme”
anti-town is a strong reason I think
3 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:What does “we lynch jabba, we fail” mean?
I think he means "we lynch jabba, jabba is town"
Preyer I know you mean well, but you are narrowing the pool for the second cop to get night killed.
8 minutes ago, PodRacer said:Preyer I know you mean well, but you are narrowing the pool for the second cop to get night killed.
Apologies.
8 minutes ago, PodRacer said:Preyer I know you mean well, but you are narrowing the pool for the second cop to get night killed.
Or he's scum trying to hide behind the good old vanilla claim.
Ovi, so are you saying you think its better for the 2nd cop to claim? Just to avoid scum from distracting us with counterclaims? I guess, with no bulletproof, if we don't get at least one scum this game ends on Round 3 anyway, right? I see your reasoning. Not sure if another claim wouldn't warrant a counterclaim anyway, though. At this point, with such little time left. No time to really scrutinize.
2 minutes ago, Caldias said:Ovi, so are you saying you think its better for the 2nd cop to claim? Just to avoid scum from distracting us with counterclaims? I guess, with no bulletproof, if we don't get at least one scum this game ends on Round 3 anyway, right? I see your reasoning. Not sure if another claim wouldn't warrant a counterclaim anyway, though. At this point, with such little time left. No time to really scrutinize.
If the scum counterclaim now they just narrow the thing to a 50% shot now. What is better than tomorrow as we will know who to lynch d2.
Theres no reason for a second cop to claim. Even in Ovi’s fever dream, theres no reason to claim, the cop just needs to push his investigation result.
Ovi, anti-town would be a great reason, if only it applied here.