if you measure you have to take a lock, if you don't it's a failed action
Anyone Seen the Agile Gunner Card?
1 hour ago, HolySorcerer said:Does that count as a failed action though?
We don't know.
But probably.
1 hour ago, HolySorcerer said:Does that count as a failed action though?
I kinda hope not.
4 hours ago, mcgreag said:Composure seems very interesting with linked actions. Interceptor boosting then intentionally failing the barrel roll to get a focus instead.
Hopefully this comes in the interceptor reprint, it is a very good card for them.
Question: If you fail a red action do you still get the stress from the attempt? That tidbit would make this useless to them if you do.
Or again can engine upgrade make a linked boost white?
Interceptors might be upgrade whores.
Edited by LordFajubi25 minutes ago, LordFajubi said:can engine upgrade make a linked boost white?
No.
EDIT - just to be clear, Engine Upgrade doesn't turn a red boost into a white boost, it adds the white boost action to your action bar.
Edited by nexttwelveexits5 hours ago, thespaceinvader said:It's not really a free focus action though - it's not in addition to anything. It onyl triggers when you fail an action you would have had anyway, so it doesn't increase your action count.
Does seem very good, though.
I was going to say it looked sort to be like Luke a tool to help new players getting a hang for the game, but if ships can link action abuse it then it definitely could likely see more play.
22 minutes ago, LordFajubi said:Hopefully this comes in the interceptor reprint, it is a very good card for them.
Question: If you fail a red action do you still get the stress from the attempt? That tidbit would make this useless to them if you do.
Or again can engine upgrade make a linked boost white?
Interceptors might be upgrade whores.
That is the question, if linked actions are treated like K-turns and stuff where if you fail you just whiff and get a stress I think it would see less play, but if not it might find some home on some lists like with the Interceptor.
6 minutes ago, Animewarsdude said:That is the question, if linked actions are treated like K-turns and stuff where if you fail you just whiff and get a stress I think it would see less play, but if not it might find some home on some lists like with the Interceptor.
Alex has said that if the linked action fails you do not get stressed.
6 hours ago, mcgreag said:Composure seems very interesting with linked actions. Interceptor boosting then intentionally failing the barrel roll to get a focus instead.
An Interceptor wouldn't need to do this. They could just focus, then link into a boost.
Some ships like the E-Wing and Punisher can link a reposition action into a target lock, but nobody can do that in the reverse order. That means no using Composure as a cheeky way to get double modded attacks.
2 minutes ago, Covered in Weasels said:An Interceptor wouldn't need to do this. They could just focus, then link into a boost.
Some ships like the E-Wing and Punisher can link a reposition action into a target lock, but nobody can do that in the reverse order. That means no using Composure as a cheeky way to get double modded attacks.
Except doing it this way means you got no stress and you can also do things like Evade into Focus.
7 minutes ago, mcgreag said:Except doing it this way means you got no stress and you can also do things like Evade into Focus.
Hmmm, interesting. This seems like it's not what the designers had in mind, but it's undeniably powerful.
Seems Agile Gunner is the replacement for Gyroscopic.
35 minutes ago, Ravenhull said:Seems Agile Gunner is the replacement for Gyroscopic.
Though sadly not equip-able by the Lancer.
5 minutes ago, SabineKey said:Though sadly not equip-able by the Lancer.
The lancer still has green turns and whatnot, which no other large ship has. I think it will be fine.
53 minutes ago, Commander Kaine said:The lancer still has green turns and whatnot, which no other large ship has. I think it will be fine.
Probably. We'll see after some table time.
18 hours ago, eMeM said:Composure:
Requires a Focus action.
If you fail an action and don't have any green tokens you may perform a Focus action.
Staple this to interceptors and a-wings. take a non-green-token action, *thrusters into a failed roll/boost, focus, and then *thrusters off the focus in a direction that works. a-wings could tl, focus, boost with this. interceptors could double reposition and still focus.
Edited by skotothalamos13 hours ago, thespaceinvader said:It also seems neat for doing the old-fashioned TL-check trick, try for the TL, fail, get a focus instead.
better hope there aren't any rocks or friendly ships in range!
9 hours ago, mcgreag said:Except doing it this way means you got no stress and you can also do things like Evade into Focus.
Evade is a green token, so no.
12 hours ago, skotothalamos said:Evade is a green token, so no.
True this is looking more and more like a no go on interceptors. All it would ever do is save you stress when you intend to focus and barrel roll or boost. Not useless but I sure wouldn’t be breaking staplers out just yet.
Now awings for a tl focus combo and you start having something.
Edited by LordFajubi2 minutes ago, LordFajubi said:True this is looking more and more like a no go on interceptors. All it would ever do is save you stress when you intend to focus and barrel roll or boost. Not useless but I sure wouldn’t be breaking staplers out just yet.
you're just going to ignore the ability to boost-badroll-focus-goodroll for three actions a turn?
Edited by skotothalamos35 minutes ago, skotothalamos said:you're just going to ignore the ability to boost-badroll-focus-goodroll for three actions a turn?
Yeah pretty much. I have my doubts that’s going to work. It may now as raw but that seems like a lot rules lawyering. Betting they either flat make a rule or errata that to specials only working once a turn just like actions.
Edit3:I need some coffee, ok vader is 70 naked. Can triple crown with force and gets no stress. Saber is the cheapest int that can take this, it’s 3 cost right? So 43 for a still solid 4 init. You can only use Boost, BR and focus on the int. So yeah giving a ship nearly half the cost with the only downside being stress on a good dialed chassis. I don’t see it happening. The 3 actions you get are just too good.
Edited by LordFajubiOn 7/27/2018 at 12:32 PM, HolySorcerer said:Or just mistakes.
- The Advanced is the same price as an X-Wing, which is clearly incorrect.
Should cost more or less...
On 7/27/2018 at 12:38 PM, ViscerothSWG said:Maybe they discovered the jump was still stupid op with a crew after printing and preemptively axed it as the next revision will be in 3 months and you can't have the inaugural release meta suck.
I hope this is sarcastic...
Edit: The Jumpmaster probably being the worst ship in V2...
27 minutes ago, muribundi said:I hope this is sarcastic...
Edit: The Jumpmaster probably being the worst ship in V2...
It was maybe 50/50 sarcastic. It was before they fixed the pdf and added back the slot. It was also after a couple years of repetitive jumpmaster meta with no disappointment that it won't be meta king for 2.0 release.
Agile Gunner: At the beginning of the engagement phase, you may change your turret firing arc.
Composure: If your opponent equips a turreted ship with Agile Gunner, discard this upgrade.
11 hours ago, ViscerothSWG said:It was maybe 50/50 sarcastic. It was before they fixed the pdf and added back the slot. It was also after a couple years of repetitive jumpmaster meta with no disappointment that it won't be meta king for 2.0 release
Seriously, crew or not, I doubt we will ever see Jumpmaster in this state anymore.
It cost more then the Scum Falcon, have less upgrade, less life, a worst wheel, only one arc. His only way to rotate is only arc is by getting a stress, at some point get over it, the ship was already dead 3 months ago.
Edit: The thing is, yes they can adjust cost and upgrade, but wheel and action are locked... And they gave this ship total **** action and wheel, so it may even not be played ever except if the price is really low or give him action trough upgrade. Seriously, giving it a red rotate with only one arc... come on... this was the joke of the new version of this game