Dash; LW, Rey, Title, HLC, Engine

Lothal Rebel; FCS, Saw, Finn

(99)

Could lose the bid and engine to go CM & Glitterstim on Dash... Thoughts??

5 hours ago, WookieHairdresser said:

Dash; LW, Rey, Title, HLC, Engine

Lothal Rebel; FCS, Saw, Finn

(99)

Could lose the bid and engine to go CM & Glitterstim on Dash... Thoughts??

You 100% need Hera crew to make this kind of Lothal viable. This is a great Lothal, but I don't know how viable something like this is in the current meta. Honestly, I don't think any 2-ship list is very viable in the current meta, depending on what shows up to a store champs.

Lothal Rebel (35)
Fire-Control System (2)
Autoblaster Turret (2)
Saw Gerrera (1)
Hera Syndulla (1)

Total: 41

I've been doing well with cheap Lothals lately (a bunch of casual, and 4-0 in an under PS 6 tournament... the first local SC isn't until next week). Two with Autoblaster, FCS, Courier Droid (one has Chopper, the other has the Ghost title), and a docked stressbug Ezra Sheathipede (Snap/Hera/R3-A2, Phantom II). I think cheap-ish Lothals can be decent, if well flown, and Ezra is a great pest (and it's wicked sweet to pop the shuttle out unexpectedly). That said, I haven't had too many games against Reapers (against one who kept bumping), and my record against X-Swarm is mixed (beat 5X, lost to 3X-U... positioning is delicate in those match-ups).

As to this list, there are a few things I don't like about it. First, I think a turret is totally worth it. Autoblaster adds a lot for only 2 points. Second, Engine on Lone Wolf Dash has frequently seemed kind of extra. I think I'd rather at least a Snuggling Compartment. Glitterstim might be worth it, with all the token removal going around. Burnout SLAM gets distance, which can be great against something like a Miranda. Hit, SLAM out of range, hit again to minimize regen opportunities. I love the concept of Rigged Cargo Chute on Dash, since he can just ignore the debris field it drops, and if dropped to obstruct an attack from a trailing ship, it's kind of like a mini-Countermeasures. Likewise Countermeasures proper is pretty good. If it wasn't for Dash's range 1 donut hole, I'd probably consider Scavenger Crane, too. I don't like that it only triggers at Range 2, but Dash ideally stays at Range 3 a lot.

I also don't know if I love Finn here. I guess it ramps up the damage potential of a Lothal, but I don't think it'd be better than Hera + Turret. I think going with @gennataos 's Lothal, plus adding some combination of Countermeasures and Illicit would be the right way to go. Or, possibly consider some kind of Push the Limit Dash. With a cheaper Lothal, this would allow either Kyle or Kanan with PTL and Engine. I can't say for sure which is better, but this one likely deserves some thought. Kyle has more tokens, Kanan is maximum mobility. Being able to double-reposition might be really handy at dodging X-Wing Swarms.

I've personally rarely done great with PTL Dash--I guess it just doesn't quite suit me.

Great info - thank you!

Is there a 3 ship list with PtL dash that might work? I'm worried a couple of ps1 crack X wings would get ps killed to easily

Could go with a 22-point Stressbug Ezra (Hera, Snapshot, R3-A2) and a 20 point Rookiee Pilot. A bit higher PS, the stress annoyance and control. A cheap Fenn Rau might work too, with just Flight Assist or R2 Astromech, and VI, to give Dash a PS 11 coordinate.

I kinda think two X-Wings would be best, though. An interesting way to build it would be Draw Their Fire on both CAZealots. Pull a crit or two onto the one not targeted, to reduce the chances of getting PS-killed.

I fully agree with getting ABT and Hera on that Lothal. Couple with FCS and Saw, that is a BRUTAL bruiser.

Dash can, of course, keep LW, Title, HLC; I would vote Snuggling, Glitter, and Counter, to help a 2 ship list stay alive. I might then use Leebo, both for thematism and extra movement

For 52 pts you can also get this Rey paired with something for the late game (Poe here but could be something else)

(98)

•Rey (52) - YT-1300
Crack Shot (1), •Saw Gerrera (1), •Finn (5)

•Poe Dameron (46) - T-70 X-Wing
Veteran Instincts (1), Plasma Torpedoes (3), •R2-D2 (4), Advanced Optics (2), •Black One (1), Autothrusters (2)

LW/Rey Dash doesn't need Engine upgrade when his wingman is the obvious focus in the early game, especially when they've got such a health shield as a Lothal does. If you drop the EU, you can afford to bump the Lothal up to Hera/Ezra for the crew and give Dash glitterstim for the nasty turns when Reapers get to him.

Alternatively, you can fit a Ezra/Maul/Title/Burnout SLAM YT-1300 Resistance Sympathiser alongside glitterstim/lw/rey Dash. It's not quite as punchy, but has way more tools for the current meta and gains a blocking element that can be crucial.