Hey,

Has anyone tried making the rules for Chaos rituals to Banish, Exorcise, or otherwise take control of daemons that are already manifest? I was thinking of making some as I have a group that many need to deny the daemon in the future and they've got no Pure Faith derivative skills but quite a bit of daemonological expertise.

After all, not only does the fluff mention rituals meant to banish but it's also reasonable. If you can summon a daemon straight from the Warp and yoke it to you will, at least for a while, then you should probably have some exorcism options. The standard rules for rituals would apply, but I'm at a loss as how to assign any Corruption Points (if at all), and how the rule of sympathy would function with what is essentially a counter ritual.

Wow, never thought to use excorsism rituals in my games.

i would think that the normal rules would apply and if you summoned the demon perhaps a bonus.

However as you normally need the demons name I would give a +10 or 20 the players roll if he knew it.

I dont think that their should be any corruption for banishing a demon etc, it is essentiall a very pure act and
how would that work with the Demon Hunters who have the Grey Knights that can and do banish things all the
time.

maybe Insanity because that can be diminished normally, if you must put a penalty on an already hard thing to do.

Kas said:

I could see an exorcism potentially causing corruption. Ever seen the original Exorcist ? I think Father Damien Karras would have something to say about the corruption to be had at an exorcism. I think, maybe, work out a DoS table of some kind; which would mitigate any adverse occurences during or after the exorcism.

An idea, anyway.

-=Brother Praetus=-

Brother Praetus said:

Well I'd say that they messed up that exorcism, personally. Ideally you don't have to kill yourself.

Any ideas on how the "rule of sympathy" would work? If you're summoning a daemon of Khorne a blood sacrifice gives you a bonus, but what about an exorcism? Would holy items work or are they incompatible with a ritual like this? Remember, this would be using Daemonology and not Faith.

numb3rc said:

Rule of Antipathy; probably the easiest way would be to use things favorable to the Chaos god who is in opposition. Exorcising a demon of Khorne? Use something that would be favorable to summoning a servant of Tzeentch. There's at least a basic start; and maybe a little bit more of a radical approach. Also, various holy text, votive candles, purity seals, sacred relics of various Imperial Saints, maybe some Drusine Incense and an Excrutiator for the more puritan.

Honestly, it really depends on the flavor of the exorcism, I suppose.

-=Brother Praetus=-

Brother Praetus said:

Just to point out, Slaanesh is opposite to Khorne. Tzeentch is opposite to Nurgle

MILLANDSON said:

Oh yeah? Well... Well, Chewbacca was a wookie! But seriously, that's one dichotomy that always gets me due to the whole no-sorcerery/loves sorcerery dispositions of Khorne and Tzeentch respectively. ShruG

-=Brother Praetus=-

Brother Praetus said:

Really, all the Chaos gods have their differences. I always saw it as Slannesh versus Khorne and Tzeenctch versus Nurgle because those relationships represented the oldest of the Chaos gods versus the youngest and the clash between stagnation and change, respectively.

Though I have to say, the "rule of antipathy" sounds like a really clever idea that fits with the background. Just have to keep those relationships straight .