Oh and @CaribbeanNinja re: your ‘where was I’ for the previous game day the answer is a combination of sleep (I flew back to Blighty from DC Friday), my brother’s Stag party (pubs and canals in the Cotswolds, it was charming) and then back to work in London on Monday. Hence why I put my argument and vote in early. Sorry I missed the final hours.

23 minutes ago, Lord Preyer said:

Ebon who?

Exactly my thoughts.

52 minutes ago, Lord Preyer said:

My apologies to @LTD - it seems your “vanilla” joke was indeed truth!

So we seem to have a serial killer, another mafiosi and a Vigilante (unknown number of shots) on the loose.

From my previous day’s suspects list only @CaribbeanNinja remains and I seem to be alone in finding this logical, persuasive, strong, seasoned veteran* at all a source for worry.

The killing of LTD I find interesting because he was attracting some suspicion. Had he lived he may well have come under serious suspicion today. I think a veteran player would know this and would have thus left him alone. Thus actually despite my fears for our survival as Town if CNinja is Scum or Killer I don’t think he is because I reckon he would have left LTD alone then as possible cover.

That means I’m now looking at less veteran-esque players - or perhaps I should just look at players who may not have been able to follow the game that closely and may have missed LTD suspicion debates.

So I guess that means... YOU! YES YOU @MandalorianMoose my dear old frenemy! Perhaps it’s just the ??? talking but I am starting today by suspecting you!

Ahem.

And finally, if someone has a more compelling case (with logic that is better than mine - not too high a bar) I would be happy to entertain that instead.

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* = veterans always scare me for their threat potential if they are scum for a reason!

This takes too many assumptions as facts

41 minutes ago, PodRacer said:

Exactly my thoughts.

Just now, EbonHawk said:

No posting, you are dead

Just now, EbonHawk said:

oi you, Dead Man Tell No Tales

1 hour ago, Lord Preyer said:

So we seem to have a serial killer, another mafiosi and a Vigilante (unknown number of shots) on the loose.

Is this right?

3 mafia + a serial killer seems awful harsh.

2 minutes ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

Is this right?

3 mafia + a serial killer seems awful harsh.

with rng could well have been, unless someone can confirm a roleblock tho, I'm almost sure that it's an SK only that we need to find

57 minutes ago, Visovics said:

with rng could well have been, unless someone can confirm a roleblock tho, I'm almost sure that it's an SK only that we need to find

Ok no I hadn’t seen blocker was a town role, ignore me

But isn't that impossible given the amount of confirmed town?

18 minutes ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

But isn't that impossible given the amount of confirmed town?

Unless I missed something, it's still totally possible

Let me have a couple of drinks before I vote Mando....

Cal, LTD and OVi would be Ts, no? Since we have a confirmed Godfather (Ebon) doesn't that mean the only possible one is Goon, Godfather, and SK?

2 minutes ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

Cal, LTD and OVi would be Ts, no? Since we have a confirmed Godfather (Ebon) doesn't that mean the only possible one is Goon, Godfather, and SK?

Actually a T doesn't equate to a Vanilla

the more Ts the more vanillas there will be, but it's not a for each T is a vanilla

Cool, well I officially have no **** idea how the setup works

17 minutes ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

Cool, well I officially have no **** idea how the setup works

Well, basically the more town roles, the less Ts, because the random will have been other letters.

The more of other letters = more roles for town and so less Ts give a stronger anti-town

Less of other letters = more Ts, which gives a weaker scum team to balance

As of now, only 1 town that died, wasn't vanilla, Broba, our 1-shot cop

And so literally with 6 players left, there are 6 letters that could be unaccounted for, and they could be anything

Okay, (and probably showing my ignorance here ) but:

TTTTTTT = Goon + Godfather, Serial Killer (Investigation Immune OR 1-Shot Bulletproof)

possible as we have confirmed G and GF

TTTTTT = Goon + Godfather

not possible as we have confirmed G and GF, but would be done

TTTTT = Goon + Godfather, Serial Killer (Investigation Immune OR 1-Shot Bulletproof)

possible as we have confirmed G and GF

TTTT = 2 Goons + Roleblocker

Not possible no GF

TTT = 2 Goons + Roleblocker, Serial Killer (Investigation Immune OR 1-Shot Bulletproof)

Not possible no GF

TT = Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather

Possible

T = Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather, Serial Killer (Investigation Immune OR 1-Shot Bulletproof)

Possible

0 Ts = Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather

Possible

However, the bottom two are really unlikely because of the probability of only rolling zero or no Ts.

Is this correct?

9 minutes ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

Okay, (and probably showing my ignorance here ) but:

TTTTTTT = Goon + Godfather, Serial Killer (Investigation Immune OR 1-Shot Bulletproof)

possible as we have confirmed G and GF

TTTTTT = Goon + Godfather

not possible as we have confirmed G and GF, but would be done

TTTTT = Goon + Godfather, Serial Killer (Investigation Immune OR 1-Shot Bulletproof)

possible as we have confirmed G and GF

TTTT = 2 Goons + Roleblocker

Not possible no GF

TTT = 2 Goons + Roleblocker, Serial Killer (Investigation Immune OR 1-Shot Bulletproof)

Not possible no GF

TT = Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather

Possible

T = Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather, Serial Killer (Investigation Immune OR 1-Shot Bulletproof)

Possible

0 Ts = Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather

Possible

However, the bottom two are really unlikely because of the probability of only rolling zero or no Ts.

Is this correct?

Almost, the 7 Ts are impossible because we know that at least a C was rolled too

I'd rather spend my time sorting townreads.

But I guess no argues this isn't a dual maf/Sk setup?

For better for worse

For richer for poorer

In sickness and in health

##Vote Mando

I don't know though @PodRacer it would be far more hilarious if it was actually the SK (you?) and Godfather (Ebon) going at it on day 1

Anyhow, the reason I wanted to look at the setup was for context to the reads. A SK wouldn't be "friendly" to Jabba and Ebon.

I would say most likely we're looking for the SK (not role blocker) since there were so many night kills (Mafia, Vig, and SK kill)

45 minutes ago, PodRacer said:

For better for worse

For richer for poorer

In sickness and in health

##Vote Mando

Sorry ur barking up the wrong tree, plain Jane vanilla townie here. Does that help narrow down the setup possibilities that Cninja laid out?

Also, I gotta say I’ve got a bad feeling about our Caribbean brethren boys

3 hours ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

Is this right?

3 mafia + a serial killer seems awful harsh.

Sorry! I don’t think I was right! I had presumed because of the two Town deaths in addition to the Scum death that that meant some Scum other than Ebon had made a Town kill but if the order of operations meant that ebon’s kill preceded his own death than hey presto! We have killed the scum and just need to find a serial killer.