Tallie Lintra speculation: I6 Ace or I5 Support? (Solved, Aug 2nd)

By Bucknife, in X-Wing

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"I feel like a part of this design choice hinges on if the devs want to limit each faction's "top I6" slot to only one or two pilots/ships.

Of course, there's always room for exceptions. Resistance, as the "all stars" faction, may lean more towards having more top-level pilots.

Thoughts? Hopes and dreams?"

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EDIT: SOLVED, Aug. 2nd, 2018

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Edited by Bucknife
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Probably the wrong place to bring it up, but I can't help myself - I want to say how much I hate her little flying scarf.

I know that the dogfighting itself was based on WW2, but the aesthetics of the pilots and ships was decidedly post space race and Vietnam war.

Why do you think the X-Wing pilots had orange flight suits?

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Their helmets were taken from molds of Vietnam helicopter pilot helmets.

The sequel trilogy's obsession with going aesthetically backwards and making everything look like WW2 really annoys me.

Sorry, rant over.

It's an interesting question, but kind of hard to answer without knowing what Resistance pilots from 1e are coming over and with what abilities. As it is, I'd say the T-70 in 1e has a lot of aces, but very few pilots in a support role. I think Jess is basically the only one. Assuming they all keep their abilities, I think the new Resistance faction is going to need more pilots with a support ability. Jake Farrell in the Rebel A-Wing has been changed to offer support options, so I think it makes sense to keep the 2e A-Wing's role of a fast, cheap blocker and support ship somewhat intact for it's Resistance successor.

To that end, I think Tallie should have an ability that keeps her reasonably action efficient, but also can be used to help other pilots.

Maybe even just literally copy 2e Jake but change the action and token. How about assigning an evade token to any ship at range 0-1 after performing a boost.

The little we see of her in TLJ kind of implies she likes speed and aggression.

Edited by GuacCousteau

I really hope I6 but I also really doubt it. Poe will be the I6 of Resistance, Kylo for First Order

Maybe they get a second one, and then Quickdraw and Tallie might take it.

I think the alternative is an I5 ace btw, not a support ship

I believe I heard that the Resistance faction identity was going to primarily be about high power individuals.

That leads me to think that she will be an Ace.. though not till she gets 5 kills.

1 minute ago, GuacCousteau said:

Jake  Farrell in the Rebel A-Wing has been changed to offer support options, so I think it make  s sense to keep the 2e A-Wing's role of a fast, cheap blocker and support ship some  w  hat intact for it's Resistance successor.   

Could you expand on what you mean by ace and by support ship?

I don‘t see 1e Jess as support, so our understandings of the word are different.

14 minutes ago, GreenDragoon said:

Could you expand on what you mean by ace and by support ship?

I don‘t see 1e Jess as support, so our understandings of the word are different.

I'm only talking in very broad terms.

I see an ace as someone with high PS and an ability that primarily benefits them, and a support ship being anyone with an ability that can affect other friendly ships.

Now Jess by herself isn't actually a support, you're right about that. But she's very commonly flown as one because she works really well with M9-G8. She doesn't need a target lock so much when she gets re-rolls for friendlies being close, so she's free to use her target lock on one of those nearby friendlies to give them re-rolls as well.

I probably should have said 'basically the closest ' rather than 'basically the only one'.

Jake Farrell can now hand out free focus actions to nearby ships. I consider that a support ability, but the fact he can use it on himself for good action economy means he can still work in more of an ace role.

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I really hope the A-Wing (both Rebels and Resistance versions) gets some i6 Pilots, and I would be tickled if they made my girlfriend er... Tallie the i6 pilot for Resistance.

They already put a huge damper on the A-Wing’s effectiveness with an attack power of 2, and limiting them to a native PS8 or lower in first edition forever locked them into the “fun but not competitive” category. So I’m really hoping they don’t make that mistake again.

I think this is going to depend on if we get Resistance Han back. If we do (which I believe to be the most likely option) I suspect Tallie will be a i5. If no Han, than we have a i6 Tallie.

Considering she was acting as escort for the bombers, i’m willing to bet she’ll have some sort of support ability, though I do hope it’s like Jake’s, where the benefit can be self-used.

I was so disappointed they blew up Tallie. The actress had a quality that gave her character immediate interest, besides the obvious good looks. She just felt like she had a bigger role to play, didn't she?

Anyway, she ought to be an I5+. One of the TLJ referernce books or visual guides said something like she was the only one that gave Poe a run for his money--something like that.

I'm rather curious what an actual Resistance support ship will look like. The few ships from TFA & TLJ that carried crews were little more than a school bus in space.

1 hour ago, SabineKey said:

Considering she was acting as escort for the bombers, i’m willing to bet she’ll have some sort of support ability, though I do hope it’s like Jake’s, where the benefit can be self-used.

I really think (and hope) you're right. The devs have stated that the theme for the Resistance faction is all about ace pilots star players. That is, "we work together, but when we do, I get the benefit" rather than Rebels where they literally give actions and buffs to friendly ships. So I Tallie will likely be able to benefit from her own pilot ability.

Reference (hopefully) cued up to the right spot

The discussion on factions starts at 51:18, but they kind of meander, so I've cued up specifically to the discussion on the sequel factions.

Edited by Parakitor

I0 cause she gets blowed up before doing anything cool ?

In Star Wars Battlefront she is a support ship. She has an ability that heals nearby ships.

8 minutes ago, cptmusket said:

I0 cause she gets blowed up before doing anything cool ?

Hah, that's what I was thinking. She flew around a little and did nothing. Sad.

How do you even know her name? She was a generic pilot that did nothing but explode. I think. I honestly don’t even remember her at all.

Edit: also, no way does the rebels2 deserve more I6 pilots than the Empire.

Edited by HolySorcerer
10 minutes ago, HolySorcerer said:

How do you even know her name? She was a generic pilot that did nothing but explode. I think. I honestly don’t even remember her at all.

Edit: also, no way does the rebels2 deserve more I6 pilots than the Empire.

Deserve? No.

Will they get them?

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37 minutes ago, gennataos said:

Hah, that's what I was thinking. She flew around a little and did nothing. Sad.

She didn’t do nothing. Did you miss that smirk? She stole my heart with that one she did.

41 minutes ago, gennataos said:

Hah, that's what I was thinking. She flew around a little and did nothing. Sad.

It's almost like she is the new Boba Fett.

8 minutes ago, acesandeights said:

It's almost like she is the new Boba Fett.

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1 hour ago, cptmusket said:

I0 cause she gets blowed up before doing anything cool

She'd be the Boba Fett of the new trilogy if it weren't for Phasma.

39 minutes ago, Rodrigo Istalindir said:

She'd be the Boba Fett of the new trilogy if it weren't for Phasma.

If anything, Tallie is like the Biggs of the new trilogy... nah... on second thought, Biggs still got more screen time.

She’s like the Dak Ralter of the new trilogy.

12 hours ago, acesandeights said:

It's almost like she is the new Boba Fett.

Yes, if Boba got blown up in ANH Special Edition hangar scene and didn't appear in next movies.

7 hours ago, eMeM said:

Yes, if Boba got blown up in ANH Special Edition hangar scene and didn't appear in next movies.

Setup: You are destroyed

20 hours ago, Herowannabe said:

If anything, Tallie is like the Biggs of the new trilogy... nah... on second thought, Biggs still got more screen time.

She’s like the Dak Ralter of the new trilogy.

People remember Dak. Nobody will remember Tallie Lintra, lol.

37 minutes ago, TheVeteranSergeant said:

People remember Dak. Nobody will remember Tallie Lintra, lol.

Yet, there is this thread asking about her. I've yet to see people asking for a Dak “I'm not ready!” Gunner card.

She's the best pilot of the best resistance interceptor that we know about. I would like to see another I6 ace option, and it seems more appropriate for the A-Wing. In reality, I will be really happy if she even shows up at I5. My guess is that if she does show up, it will be at I4 to make her a more affordable support option that might possibly see the table in the new meta. Remember, in the new 2.0 speak, it's initiative and not pilot skill for a reason :P

She actually survived that suicide run against the dreadnought, so I could see her handing out an Evade token or something.

After the tragedy of K-2SO though, I have no confidence that she will even show up in the game at all. I really do hope to see that Resistance A-Wing in the next few waves.

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2 hours ago, RebelProfundity said:

After the tragedy of K-2SO though, I have no confidence that she will even show up in the game at all. I really do hope to see that Resistance A-Wing in the next few waves.

Of course she will. FFG needs named pilots for the Resistance A-Wing (and they will release the ship eventually).