I know that input from FFG has been very limited on these forums, so if this ends up being just a discussion amongst those interested in the game (or just a single post ), so be it:

Are there plans to release official adventures that involve multiple expansions, either incorporating them into expansions (Heroes did this to a degree), releasing them as a booklet, and/or web "exclusive" posts?

With the release of Horrific Hordes, this is the area I would most like to see grow with BattleLore - the number and variety of official scenarios available. Assuming that Dwarves and Humans (and then other races?) get similar treatment as the Goblins, seeing official adventures that pit varieties of those expansions' forces against one another, as well as Goblin v. Goblin, etc. adventures, would be very welcomed by me.

I hope so too!

If this could mean more Adventures, more variety in units and more complex victory conditions, I'd like also to see the employment of Call to Arms as an open format, or a framework, in conjunction with official map/scenario presentation - even if this coul be a bit controversial, given that I'm putting an expansion as a gateway for the others...

I think it was Creatures expansion that has an adventure (last one) that had units from two (possibly three) expansions listed, so the idea is definately out there. I guess having somewhere you could vote on how good it is and who won the battle would be useful too...

Chris

Elberon said:

I enjoyed all the features that DoW had in regards to the adventures (recording plays, statistics on battle results, adventure editor, archives of user created adventures, etc.) and I hope that these make it to the FFG site.

I'd love to see a scenario book, with a chapter or section including a series of adventures using the various expansions - perhaps some form of campaign would be great as well! It would certainly be a great way of getting hold of a bunch of scenarios!

Another idea would be to have a AAR system like DoW had - that would be fantastic too! - that was a great support for the fans, and a great system for people new to the game to see what people thought of the various scenarios, and the win/loss ratios! It must also have been useful to DoW and Richard I'd imagine - to look at those scenarios that were listed as imbalanced and see why.

Cheers,

Giles.

I was always disappointed that the scenarios included in expansions only used that expansion and the core game set. I hope at least one scenario uses multiple expansions in future expansion packs.

I share the dissapointment that new figures only ( or allmost only) appeared in the expansion they came with.

It would be great, and show understanding for the players who bought the expansion(s), to create a new scenariobook (books) whit new adventures, mixed from old expansions.

A bit like: Adventures from the Past....

If someone has made this already; please let me know where i can find them

Greetings from the future,

Junsun

/start RANT

This topic and similar astounds me...

New BL player goes into store and buys Heroes / Creatures or Dragons.... He wants to play as many of the scenarios out of the base game and his new expansion.. He doesn't want games where he needs to find out of print expansions.

Old BL player goes into store and buys Heroes / Creatures or Dragons.... He wants new adventures and since he has the old expansions... he can use any specialist cards to play with his new and old toys at the same time. Also, FFG have given him 1 or 2 out of 4-6 adventures where he does need to dig out his older expansions and mix them up.

FFG make games... their support for these games varies from great (parts etc) to non-existant (web based tools etc) They'll state it time and time again.... they will not waste the time and money developing a site that looks like and reminds you of the good old days at DoW. Whilst we can all dream... those days are over people !

The old scenarios are still out there.

http://battlelore.aeneagames.com/scenarios/

and

http://static.battleloreadventure.com/en/

should keep the average player happy for a very long time.

DoW sold us BL as a KIT... heck - I had 2 base games on pre-order. Use your imagination and use it as such. Don't like a rule ? CHANGE IT. !! I wanted Epic from the start, I was never sure why DoW gave me a free Epic, as I didn't need the maps and had more than enough of most of the counters.. but they did... and that was nice of them, but don't expect similar service from FFG.

Want to use all the minis in the box in a campaign ? Go for it.. get a Kingmaker or similar map out and move tokens around on there and fight any battles that happen. You have a base game and Heroes ? You have ten plus six scenarios.... now, throw in a varying War Council and different Heroes, the possibilities are almost endless.

Elberon has an interesting set of ideas for home brew expansions - I suggest you all take a look and see what can be done with some thought and play testing. I didn't like some of them, and have used others.

If we are lucky, Descent gets one expansion per year - we were spoilt at DoW, yep - the releases weren't always the best (troll map anyone..) but BL was a big deal to DoW and is 'just another game in the catalogue' to FFG.

I'm not pro DoW or pro FFG - I still feel annoyed at having to wait over a year before DoW told me what was happening with BL Both companies policy's of not announcing future plans / releases is something I will never be able to understand. IF FFG tells me that they are releasing an elven army pack next year... I'll start saving now. I'd probably buy more goblins / dwarves and I'll be hitting the website everyday for info. If we are lucky - we may get a state of the game' posting but don;t hold your breath.

Battles of Westeross is one I'll skip however, the books actually have very few battles in them, no LORE worth bothering about and I wanted FANTASY - not seven variations of human medieval. I'm not unhappy its coming out though, hard to market a 'battlelore game system' where the base set isn't supported anymore... Yes, it might take developement time away from BL - but I can live with that.

now, Battles of Middle Earth.... I'd buy that in a heartbeat !

/RANT OVER

Looking forwards to seeing replies !!

MWAlbion said:

Well, this will be remembered as the most off topic reply in history, but speaking of licenses, I was thinking... No one took yet, as far as I know, that for a game in the Malazan series' universe... some exotic races and concepts (included the most sympathetic undead army ever seen) and really intense battles, with even touching moments).... Why not? Ah, so off-topic!

affro said:

Well the Malazan Empire did start out as an RPG concept - so why not a boardgame? The board would have to include a track for off-board movement, so that squads can pop-out from Warrens at any point on the battlefield The series is awesome !!

The Heroes, Dragons and Creatures expansion succeeded each other pretty fast in my opinion and already they announced another expansion.

I don't really mind if FFG would say they will only release a new expansion every year. But i'm unfortunatly not able to play Battlelore very often so that could be the reason.

MWAlbion said:

This game could easily support Middle Earth battles. Peleanor Fields. Helm's Deep. The Battle at the gates of Mordor. Battles from previous ages. Easy. Easy. Easy. Heck. Call the goblins orcs and you could set up a reasonable ME battle with the base set alone. I might look into creating a scenario.

Its been done!

Just not published yet...

Richard Borg

Thuddeus said:

Thuddeus said:

Its been done!

Just not published yet...

Richard Borg

Thuddeus said:

Richard Borg said:

Any hints as to when we might see something published?

something to be anounced on the Third Age-event in june perhaps?

I'd suggest it would depend on who owns the 'mass battle LOTR franchise' to see if there was anything likely to be published any time soon - I do believe that Games Workshop still has that flag - unless this would come under board game rather than wargame.... (and if FFG did have the ok to do it I bet they'd done battle of Middle Earth first as it has just more market possibilities especially with the Hobbit due out soon)

Perhaps this could be a release like the napolionic wars release >darn it no shrugging smiley<

Hey Mr Borg, if you happen to past this thread any more tidbits

Chris

Actually we did a two player game of Siege of Minas Tirith for Parker Brothers Lord of the Rings Risk in 2003.

Have also playtested a number of Lord of the RIngs battles with BattleLore. Currently these are not part of BattleLore future plans. I do believe there were a number of Lord of the Rings battles, however, that were posted when DoW BattleLore web site was up. Not to long ago someone had mentioned they had downloaded all the community created battles (sorry I do not recall who it was) it may be worth a search if you can find the link.

Richard Borg

Don (Yangtze) had created several - they should be on one of the sites that has the user created scenarios stored.

There was also a campaign started (and stalled, and started, and yet again stalled ) that involved very slight modifications to Call to Arms. It can be found here (have to be a member of the yahoo group BattleLoreCallToArms).