Tie Strikers, Soontir, Tie Phantoms, A-Wings, Starvipers, Scum Fenn, Gunboats, and BB8 Poe are all kinda close for their own reasons.
Kylo Silencer though is just out right cooler than whatever that thing is that you like.
It is absolutely a completely unbalanced ridiculous ship, but its the most fun I have ever had in the single player game mode that is 1.0 X-Wing.
My kylo anecdote: as an experiment a friend and I played a 105pt ABXY list against just Kylo. The rebels had no chance. It wasn't even close.
26 minutes ago, player2072913 said:My kylo anecdote: as an experiment a friend and I played a 105pt ABXY list against just Kylo. The rebels had no chance. It wasn't even close.
I bet your opponent had a ton of fun even if they were polite and felt bad for the ABXY. Playing against PS10-11 ships with Kylo is also fun and sometimes just as easy.
Edited by Boom Owl1 hour ago, Boom Owl said:Tie Strikers, Soontir, Tie Phantoms, A-Wings, Starvipers, Scum Fenn, Gunboats, and BB8 Poe are all kinda close for their own reasons.
Kylo Silencer though is just out right cooler than whatever that thing is that you like.
It is absolutely a completely unbalanced ridiculous ship, but its the most fun I have ever had in the single player game mode that is 1.0 X-Wing.
Meh. I'll take 2 of the PS4 Silencers over any of the named Silencers any time.
The Silencer is almost too good for its own good. Its in this weird realm of nearly feeling broken against your middling power level ships but ineffectual against the top meta lists. The simple fact is that Kylo is just too expensive for the amount of damage he can put out. For a ship that is half your list in cost, he just doesn't cut it with 3 attack dice, even well modded attack dice. I think Blackout is better, but he takes more careful flying and over the course of a tournament its just too tasking.
1 minute ago, T70 Driver said:Meh. I'll take 2 of the PS4 Silencers over any of the named Silencers any time.
Having played that a bit sure they are fun to, mainly because you can just no consequences joust for a turn or two and their is a little less to think about.
But your kidding yourself, Kylo does everything they do + a bunch of other stuff to. Which in the end means Kylo is more cool.
I'll fight anyone who disagrees.
3 minutes ago, Jo Jo said:The Silencer is almost too good for its own good. Its in this weird realm of nearly feeling broken against your middling power level ships but ineffectual against the top meta lists. The simple fact is that Kylo is just too expensive for the amount of damage he can put out. For a ship that is half your list in cost, he just doesn't cut it with 3 attack dice, even well modded attack dice. I think Blackout is better, but he takes more careful flying and over the course of a tournament its just too tasking.
Wrong, Kylos problem is his optimal build is only worth 47 points...
1 minute ago, Boom Owl said:Having played that a bit sure they are fun to, mainly because you can just no consequences joust for a turn or two and their is a little less to think about.
But your kidding yourself, Kylo does everything they do + a bunch of other stuff to. Which in the end means Kylo is more cool.
I'll fight anyone who disagrees.
Everything they do....and 2 other things. A second action with PTL and a Pilot ability that requires you to take damage for it to work. Then you need to score a crit on the ship that shot you to activate it. No thanks.
10 minutes ago, T70 Driver said:Everything they do....and 2 other things. A second action with PTL and a Pilot ability that requires you to take damage for it to work. Then you need to score a crit on the ship that shot you to activate it. No thanks.
Not hard to do at all.
Also advanced sensors or primed thrusters make Kylo 1000000% more fun than a stock silencer.
Is it basically cheating? yes...
Does it mean you have to think about an insane # of options each turn? also yes...and why its cooler and more fun than 2x
Edited by Boom OwlWhy does everyone think an ace with 2 green turns, 5 green straights, talons, 1 hard turns, and 3 green banks, with a system slot, tech slot, and autothrusters is hard????
Whats wrong with you people?!
Have you ever tried Palp Aces?
Its easier than Dash Poe ( because Poe is bad and has always been bad )
Edited by Boom OwlWith Quickdraw and filler...wow. Some things have 0 chance. It's a shame Phil Horny couldn't make worlds, as he could've done great with him. Back to topic, Kylo can
1: kill Miranda 1 on 1, meaning 100 pt Miranda is a positive match . Blinded pilot is a thing, sensors dodge bombs, and autos away!....
2: Arc-dodge anything. Yes, ps 10 and 11 exist, but who wants to K-turn after you end up behind them, especially with Kylo's friends giving chase? Also, damaged cockpit is a thing.
3: Consistently roll 4 dice reasonably nodded on offense. If you fly him mediocrely, then you will only get 3. Leave that dial open and predict correctly, and you turn Kylo into a mobile and tankier TIE phantom. Also, shaken pilot is a thing.
4: Ram into you with all his actions. Blocking is a horrible strategy against him as he can dodge, or token up against something else! And you just lost your shot on him!
5: That title. That beautiful title that increases damage and rewards good positioning. Also, the holy panic button. Whisper is jealous.
Kylo has been doing well (winning some system opens and pulling antics in low level tourneys) for a reason: he is Soontir, Whisper, a soft rebel captive, Corran Horn, and predator all rolled into one amazing chassis. With Reapers and X wings everywhere, he is only better, as arcs are more important than ever. I'm taking him to store champs this season.
10 minutes ago, Boom Owl said:Why does everyone think an ace with 2 green turns, 5 green straights, talons, 1 hard turns, and 3 green banks, with a system slot, tech slot, and autothrusters is hard????
Whats wrong with you people?!
Have you ever tried Palp Aces?
Its easier than Dash Poe ( because Poe is bad and has always been bad )
How is Poe bad (before jam, I presume)? It's just nowadays Kylo is better (outpoint Poe's fortress and kill his blind spot friend). R2d2, optics, and black 1 are amazing on him.
8 minutes ago, player3010587 said:How is Poe bad (before jam, I presume)? It's just nowadays Kylo is better (outpoint Poe's fortress and kill his blind spot friend). R2d2, optics, and black 1 are amazing on him.
Because he was not Miranda and never will be.
10 minutes ago, Boom Owl said:Because he was not Miranda and never will be.
If the metric of power is Miranda, you gonna have a bad time.
4 minutes ago, Commander Kaine said:If the metric of power is Miranda, you gonna have a bad time.
Not if your playing Kylo.
1 hour ago, Jo Jo said:The Silencer is almost too good for its own good. Its in this weird realm of nearly feeling broken against your middling power level ships but ineffectual against the top meta lists. The simple fact is that Kylo is just too expensive for the amount of damage he can put out. For a ship that is half your list in cost, he just doesn't cut it with 3 attack dice, even well modded attack dice. I think Blackout is better, but he takes more careful flying and over the course of a tournament its just too tasking.
I'm pretty sure that's why his best compadres are usually 2 Gunboats.
5 minutes ago, Bucknife said:I'm pretty sure that's why his best compadres are usually 2 Gunboats.
The gunboats are fun and that list is what the podcasts would have you believe. But I dont think thats currently correct or ever was.
Edited by Boom OwlJust now, Boom Owl said:The gunboats are fun and that list is what the podcasts would have you believe. But I dont think thats correct.
Well, that's fine. What is your preference for Kylo wingmen, then?
*Laugh's in TLT*
1 minute ago, Bucknife said:Well, that's fine. What is your preference for Kylo wingmen, then?
Since Jam basically turns off LRS gunboats 100% of the time I think Palp or Quickdraw or Reapers are the way to go now.
11 minutes ago, FlyingAnchors said:*Laugh's in TLT*
Kylo is a good metric for why 1.0 is so broken. All things considered, his ability to let you out fly basically any other ship should be unstoppable in theory, but TLT, bombs, etc have made him subpar.
10 minutes ago, Boom Owl said:Since Jam basically turns off LRS gunboats 100% of the time I think Palp or Quickdraw or Reapers are the way to go now.
I like him with Quickdraw and an Epsilon Sqaudron Pilot filler.
Edited by impspy1 hour ago, Boom Owl said:Having played that a bit sure they are fun to, mainly because you can just no consequences joust for a turn or two and their is a little less to think about.
But your kidding yourself, Kylo does everything they do + a bunch of other stuff to. Which in the end means Kylo is more cool.
I'll fight anyone who disagrees.
Except win by being aggressive.
15 minutes ago, Biophysical said:Except win by being aggressive.
Yup.
Kylo gameplay in a nutshell -
1 hour ago, Biophysical said:Except win by being aggressive.
Not false. But doesnt matter. The cult of the 2x silencer is blind to the awesomeness that is Kylo. They are fun no doubt but your followers blind faith in the list is misplaced. Point counter point Kylo Ren is cooler than a couple entry level "analysts".
I genuinely appreciate the play style, but having the "option" to just be in a strategically advantageous bad place for 2 rounds while liberating in its own way doesnt approach Kylo levels of cool.
Edited by Boom Owl1 hour ago, Jo Jo said:Yup.
Kylo gameplay in a nutshell -
Lies.
