I absolutely HATE the AFMk2 sculpt and am considering making a 3d print that looks similarish except isn't terrible. I'll still be using the stand and the cardboard and all of that.

IMHO,

-in a casual tournament, no problem (well, ask the umpire before to be on the safe side)

-in a FFG-endorsed tournament, that is not allowed. what can be is dismantling (easy) and refitting your own with greenstuff, plastic card and so on, provided it can still be seen as basically an official FFG mini.

I've been playing with alternate models at tournaments for awhile now (casual, store championships, regionals, nationals) -- I always offer to switch to the actual model, but I've never had an opponent who takes me up on it (or a TO who cared).

2 hours ago, ExplosiveTooka said:

I absolutely HATE the AFMk2 sculpt and am considering making a 3d print that looks similarish except isn't terrible. I'll still be using the stand and the cardboard and all of that.

When someone asks the rules.

Quote the rules!

Component Modifications

During tournament play, each player is required to use the components included in official Star Wars: Armada products (see “Legal Products” on page 9). Questions about a component’s eligibility should be directed to a marshal.
If a necessary component is ruled ineligible and the player cannot locate a replacement for it, that player is dropped from the tournament.
Players must identify copies of the same ship in his or her fleet—and its corresponding ship card —with a token, a sticker, or any other form of marking.

Players are welcome and encouraged to personalize their fleet according to the following rules:

• Players may paint their ship models. They cannot modify a ship model in any way that would create confusion about which ship the model represents. Page 7

• Players cannot modify ship or squadron bases to alter their size or shape. They may add weight to a ship or squadron base if it does not alter the shape of the base. Ship fins or pegs (including the connecting pegs affixed to ship models) may be modified or replaced with a different connecting method.

• Cards must remain unaltered, though they may be sleeved for protection. Sleeves for damage cards must be identical and unaltered.

• Players may mark their tokens, speed dials, and command dials to indicate ownership as long as the function of the component is not compromised. Players may mark obstacles to indicate ownership, but cannot otherwise alter them in any way.

• Players may mark dice with a permanent or indelible marker to indicate ownership in an unobtrusive manner, but cannot otherwise alter them in any way.

If two or more models in play could potentially touch causing conflict with movement or placement of ships (e.g. two Imperial-class Star Destroyer ships are placed with their models touching), players must remove one of the models and place it on its ship card until the ship models are no longer in danger of touching.

and, as referenced:

Legal Products

Players may use only official Star Wars: Armada components in tournament play, with the following exceptions for third-party replacements:

• Non-essential tokens (see “Tokens” on page 9)

• Range rulers that match the dimensions of an official range ruler or a particular section of an official range ruler

As a ship model is not classed as one of the above available for 3rd party replacement... Technically you need to have the original model there.

I can't in good faith say "no one cares" however, as I have known situations where people have had to source their original models back for live streams and advertisements and such... So it does happen.

On 7/5/2018 at 1:13 PM, ExplosiveTooka said:

I absolutely HATE the AFMk2 sculpt and am considering making a 3d print that looks similarish except isn't terrible. I'll still be using the stand and the cardboard and all of that.

I totally agree with you on that ship. Top of the list for ships I hate. Just made a post about modding it.

The paint job for the MC-80 Home One is just gross. Though the winged liberty is gorgeous. Love it! Favorite rebel ship. If they could just make the third one from RotJ it would be great!

What I don’t get is that all measurements are taken from the base so why does it matter what the model looks like? Part of this hobby is about modling and painting.

1 hour ago, XR8rGREAT said:

What I don’t get is that all measurements are taken from the base so why does it matter what the model looks like? Part of this hobby is about modling and painting.

Because of the mental association we make between a model and capabilities. Putting an LMC80 on an ISD base (and Admo on Demo's base, and GR75s for Gozantis) is misleading to people and could have a tangible effect on performance.

Really, in any situation where the question arises, someone is quite clearly a jerk. And thankfully, the TO has full authority.

1 hour ago, XR8rGREAT said:

What I don’t get is that all measurements are taken from the base so why does it matter what the model looks like? Part of this hobby is about modling and painting.

Arguably, as far as FFG is concerned, painting and modelling of Ships isn't part of the hobby , because Armada, at least on the ship side isn't part of that hobby ... Runewars and Legion is, and they only incorporate the rules in the tournament because people will do it anyway . That's a long way from Intent or even anything more than Compromise...

From a Rules and Business perspective, anyway... There's a reason why they're Legion paint sets, and not Star Wars Games paint sets, after all.

Yes, it is indeed stupid and petty.
But it is the way of things.

On 5/25/2019 at 3:42 PM, The Jabbawookie said:

What I don’t get is that all measurements are taken from the base so why does it matter what the model looks like? Part of this hobby is about modling and painting.

I can see why they have the rule. I went up against a guy at a tournament recently who kept getting his Merrick steele and generic defender mixed up. they were both un painted, long story short it got to the point where I started to feel like he was purposely mixing them up. Any way My point is , If people get unpainted ffg squadron models mixed up It could potentially be so much worse with custom ships being proxyed it could make the situation soo much worse.

If your opponent is cool with using custom ships, Great. If not I would have the FFG ship handy to avoid any issues.

My thoughts are use whatever custom bling you want as long as it does not alter gameplay just make sure you have official stuff on standby. (This is also in line with the official rules)

1 hour ago, Kylemcph240 said:

I can see why they have the rule. I went up against a guy at a tournament recently who kept getting his Merrick steele and generic defender mixed up. they were both un painted, long story short it got to the point where I started to feel like he was purposely mixing them up. Any way My point is , If people get unpainted ffg squadron models mixed up It could potentially be so much worse with custom ships being proxyed it could make the situation soo much worse.

If your opponent is cool with using custom ships, Great. If not I would have the FFG ship handy to avoid any issues.

I didn’t ask that question, but was responding to it.

38 minutes ago, The Jabbawookie said:

I didn’t ask that question, but was responding to it. 

Yes I realize that I grabbed the quote from your response because I couldn't find where it was originally.