49 minutes ago, Lord Preyer said:

Rapier Blade calling Targ Girl, Rapier Blade calling Targ Girl.

Even though these GroPos aren’t my first or even second party of choice, I need these Rebs to win out for the sake of me and the Alliance. But I don’t think anything I say will be enough anymore.

Looks like Mads has got me target locked. He knows I’m no regular Trooper. He thinks I’m a risk to the squad and I get why he thinks that. Heck, I respect it even. It didn’t help that my charges were taken last night (no one noticed my “thieves” line earlier, sadly) - I wonder if they’ll recharge now they’re in someone else’s hands even after I’m gone?

And I’m sorry I won’t be able to bust the General out. Hope he’s got a cy-cap to take the right way out before the Probe Droids get him to talk.

*PAUSES RECORDING*

Hmmmn. Hopefully my back up by the time we reach the Castle will remember that The Cathedral was on the OTHER side of the square.

*RESTARTS RECORDING*

As for @Madaghmire he said I was a traitor. I said he was a renegade. Even then, they still didn’t get Schmidt.

But I do know this: it was you Dravin. I know you set me up for this and think I won’t walk away from it. And, you’re probably right, between the ImpBots and the veteran Rebs they will probably shoot me soon. But this ol’ bionic hand of mine from the ol’ ThroneWorld isn’t done with you yet. Space no! One day we’ll be sitting in a shuttle and I’ll let you take the honorable way out through the airlock. And the Alliance will be saved and Moose, Moose will be avenged.

Rapier Blade signing off.

What charges?

I cant tell if hes tipping his king or I should be worried.

Lord Preyer is talking crud.

Kill him.

Kill him now.

Okay so you just admited you’re not the same alignment as us?

##vote @Lord Preyer

L-1, you better have an incredibly good claim

10 hours ago, BrobaFett said:

@GhostofNobodyInParticular wait till tomorrow to push a lynch on me.

Today tomorrow or Mafia tomorrow?

10 hours ago, Madaghmire said:

Gnips seems to accept preyer might have had a one shot lighter, used it to kill Ginkapo, and now is in fact not capable of killing others.

I said it was a possibility. My main concern is that there were 2 deaths last night, which we know the lighter doesn't do. So why kill the lighter, who lets his target live another day, rather than a night killer, who removes the target before he can give us any results from the night?

9 hours ago, LTD said:

I find Madaghmire's accusations against Lord Preyer to be pretty solid. I don't think GNIPS case against Brobafett amounts to much.

Nope. It is based purely on process of elimination. Otherwise it's worthless.

I mean mafia tomorrow.

29 minutes ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

I said it was a possibility. My main concern is that there were 2 deaths last night, which we know the lighter doesn't do. So why kill the lighter, who lets his target live another day, rather than a night killer, who removes the target before he can give us any results from the night?

I am pretty sure Mad is town now. About 99,99% being the 00,01% something beyond my comprehension.

I also think his theory about the 3rd party arsonist using a one-shot lighter and then killing normally is good. I mean, we already talked about how weird was to has no kills n1. It meant 2 scum factions failing to kill someone (Gink) and an arsonist priming Gink. It is already odd Gink was chosen by two killers so how much are three? The most probable scenarios are:

1. 3rd party SK (ilimitate kills) with one-shot incinerator and 1 scum faction. -----------> so killing the SK is not a bad idea anymore cause is one dead less tonight.

2. scum faction with one-shot incinerator and another scum faction. ----------> so killing the arsonist is not a bad idea anymore cause he is scum and means one dead less tonight (unless a mate)

3. One scum faction full of killing roles and multiples killing actions per night (multiple being 2). --------> so killing the arsonist is not a bad idea anymore cause he scum and means one dead less tonight.

What I am not completely sold is in the arsonist being LP. I mean, the whole case could be briefly exposed as "he ignored Gink so he killed Gink" and that's not a great case. But it is also true that I have not a better case and definitely his first post d2 seems to suggest he knew doc's cares were just provisory.

In his post here ? ...

14 hours ago, Lord Preyer said:

Loyal Troopers, ImpBot scum, crazy fire worshipers, non-full moon wolves, thieves, part-time firemen and whatever else - greetings!

Live together, die alone.

Those of us who actually went to the Academy know what that means.

Sadly, some of you didn’t so some of you don’t.

At first I reckoned it had to be you @Visovics - after all, you seemed to lay it out on the line for Cal lyin’. But you didn’t vote to hammer him which I think is important.

I know some attention focused on @Madaghmire right outta the gate today but I wanted to give the fella time to come back and lay out his theory of the case. It sounded like he was workin’ through a lot of data and that takes time which - further spontaneous combustions not withstandin’ - we actually had a bit of so I didn’t want to rush to action. Boy, am I regretin’ that call now.

This brings me to @BrobaFett and his shade throwin’ which I’m still just about inclined to take as an honest mistake but I need to recheck how his voting has gone but I think it’s been solid.

On @ovinomanc3r and @LTD I can’t get a read - it could be that I’m missing something or it could be that their more conservative style is neccesary to protect their mission/scummarining - delete as applicable folks.

@GhostofNobodyInParticular reads as a Rebel to me. He has broken his traditional taciturn style from the start to try and help us out, leading from the front with theories and not shyin’ away from the fight.

So, process of elimination leads me back to Mads who wants my blood now. And on what basis? That he’s found flavor that makes me look guilty and he doesn’t think my analysis has been good enough. On the former, my only surprise is he didn’t try to blame me for Gink’s death because I had talked about fire water (yes, that’s whisk(e)y) at the start. Actually, come to think of it behind lynched for whisky flavor would be kinda awesome! Ach, well.

As to the latter, my apologies if you think my unwillingness to shout ‘ha! I’ve found you split an infinitive! You’re clearly scum’ hasn’t been what you desired. Guess we have different standards of guilt and value alike.

On the specifics, starting with the ice thing I took the opportunity to try to give a credible reason why we might be hammering within the group pre-scum reveal. Could it speak to my “state of mind”? Sure, but so could everything anyone says ever! His suggestions about leaving some mates on the snow.

On Gink’s “adventures of Moose and Preyer” - this was the third run we’ve been out on together and there’s been a lot of ‘I’ll get you next time’ back and forth between us. I thought it’d be nice to switch it up and try buddies rather than rivals. I can’t help that some treat story as suspicion. The adventures of Tom Preyer and Huckleberry Moose.

As for werewolves, I did answer this with my point about the full moon and the no kill. Also, my werewolf partner was meant to be Moose. Now he’s dead I’m still getting this which seems a bit of a distraction throw to me. Wolves night parties issue.

Lastly on the fire extinguisher thing, if you had it and it’s for the reason of using it with flames as you say then why wasn’t it used to save Gink?

So for now my VoteZap is to you!

##vote @Madaghmire

Oh, and fellas, I’ve got an uplink boosted off a rogue satellite link-up near the asteroid belt to get us the SportsBall semi. You see I hear IT’S COMING HOME and with the greatest of respec’ to y’all that’s where my head is now!

... he adressed every Mad's case point (he actually adressed them exactly how I thought he would cause those were my readings) but ONE. This one is exactly the said post that worries me.

He also threw shades about the extinguisher and when it is proved Mad actually had one he did not even unvote him (or I missed).

So as I said, I trust Mad and even when the case is not gold LP didn't explain the only point that actually concerned me. So better he claim properly. Actually I am not sure if any kind of claim could help him at this point but he could help us explaining himself and what he did, his charges and their purpose, the thief stuff, etc so when he flipped town (if he does) we had better info and don't loose time figuring out if Gink thought the "s" came from penicillin or fuel. And the sooner the better.

Loyal Troopers, ImpScumBot(s) and Thief! I’ve had a good life and good service for my Corps. I’d like to face your firing squad with dignity so will not be pleading for my life. If anyone remembers me I’d hope they’d say “at least he died well”.

So here’s my final thoughts before your VoteZap:

- As Ovi said “Actually I am not sure if any claim could help him at this point” - I tend to agree! When captured by forces hostile to me, I am permitted to give name, rank and serial number only. Preyer, Specialist (Covert Ops Division) - Alliance Intelligence, 4815162342) You have my dog tags now and can confirm. What’s more, I now understand you’ve even been monitoring some of my transmissions. You’re not getting anymore about me - I have my own mission and comrades to think of - and a last scintilla of professional dignity too thank you very much. I won’t break faith by blabbin’ to you now in the vain hope you’ll spare me. No siree.

- That said, I don’t want the ImpScum to win so I’ll tell you this: There’s a weapon out there. It may be exhausted but I can’t vouch for that as I find it unlikely the thief who took it would have bothered if they couldn’t find a way to charge it back up.

- So yeah, I think there’s a thief too who now has it. Oh, and I still do not believe in Werewolves

- As such, beware two night kills or a delayed reaction day kill. The weapon seems to work in unexpected ways sometimes. You can trust Mads’s logic - it’s been excellent (even if he’s got my story and purpose wrong but with what he’s got he’s done great!).

- Speaking of which, I accept @ovinomanc3r argument and also commend @Madaghmire for his diligence and professionalism. I ##unvote @Madaghmire and wish you remaining Rebels good fortune in hunting ImpBots.

- My last will and testament is that my BionicHand be taken back to the Massasi Temple and presented to General Dravin as proof of my... ‘Death’

*muttersunderbreath* “Code’ll do the rest”

Here’s to the light of Rebellion Troopers! May it break the Empire’s darkness soon.

Farewell folks.

Ok. I’m off to the antipodean land of don. Make sure you vote, non-voters.

5 minutes ago, Lord Preyer said:

Loyal Troopers, ImpScumBot(s) and Thief! I’ve had a good life and good service for my Corps. I’d like to face your firing squad with dignity so will not be pleading for my life. If anyone remembers me I’d hope they’d say “at least he died well”.

So here’s my final thoughts before your VoteZap:

- As Ovi said “Actually I am not sure if any claim could help him at this point” - I tend to agree! When captured by forces hostile to me, I am permitted to give name, rank and serial number only. Preyer, Specialist (Covert Ops Division) - Alliance Intelligence, 4815162342) You have my dog tags now and can confirm. What’s more, I now understand you’ve even been monitoring some of my transmissions. You’re not getting anymore about me - I have my own mission and comrades to think of - and a last scintilla of professional dignity too thank you very much. I won’t break faith by blabbin’ to you now in the vain hope you’ll spare me. No siree.

- That said, I don’t want the ImpScum to win so I’ll tell you this: There’s a weapon out there. It may be exhausted but I can’t vouch for that as I find it unlikely the thief who took it would have bothered if they couldn’t find a way to charge it back up.

- So yeah, I think there’s a thief too who now has it. Oh, and I still do not believe in Werewolves

- As such, beware two night kills or a delayed reaction day kill. The weapon seems to work in unexpected ways sometimes. You can trust Mads’s logic - it’s been excellent (even if he’s got my story and purpose wrong but with what he’s got he’s done great!).

- Speaking of which, I accept @ovinomanc3r argument and also commend @Madaghmire for his diligence and professionalism. I ##unvote @Madaghmire and wish you remaining Rebels good fortune in hunting ImpBots.

- My last will and testament is that my BionicHand be taken back to the Massasi Temple and presented to General Dravin as proof of my... ‘Death’

*muttersunderbreath* “Code’ll do the rest”

Here’s to the light of Rebellion Troopers! May it break the Empire’s darkness soon.

Farewell folks.

You still didn't claim, lol

@Lord Preyer

Well so you acknowledge to kill Gink and also have a non-town win condition.

Did you kill CNinja or Mando?

To sum him up succictly, I think he said "sorry dirtbags, no more info for you."

10 minutes ago, BrobaFett said:

To sum him up succictly, I think he said "sorry dirtbags, no more info for you."

it seems

well I have enough for today. do you want the honours? I don't care actually.

Do we just not kill him? Since it's pretty obvious at this point he doesn't have a weapon, his win con is fulfilled, and he doesn't care if he dies or not?

We don't have to lynch just cause he is L-1, we can still point in a different direction with what time we have left because I now am where you were previously Ovi, in that Preyer doesn't help town or hurt it any more.

Just now, BrobaFett said:

Do we just not kill him? Since it's pretty obvious at this point he doesn't have a weapon, his win con is fulfilled, and he doesn't care if he dies or not?

We don't have to lynch just cause he is L-1, we can still point in a different direction with what time we have left because I now am where you were previously Ovi, in that Preyer doesn't help town or hurt it any more.

so do you think he neither kill Cninja or Mando?

He probably did kill one, but no longer has a weapon, and obviously is super cool if we kill him to the point he won't even give us any more info. So he either completed his wincon, or no longer has a weapon to complete his wincon and so has lost.

2 minutes ago, BrobaFett said:

Do we just not kill him? Since it's pre  tty obvious at this point he doesn't have a weapon, his win con is fulfilled, and he doesn't care if he dies or not?

We don't have to lynch just cause he is L-1, we can still point in a different direction with what time we have left because I now am where you were previously Ovi, in that Preyer doesn't help town or hurt it any more.

that's true

##unvote

let's look for some people who can actually kill

Just now, BrobaFett said:

He probably did kill one, but no longer has a weapon, and obviously is super cool if we kill him to the point he won't even give us any more info. So he either completed his wincon, or no longer has a weapon to complete his wincon and so has lost.

but scum never needed a weapon to kill. The weapon could be just an item for a special kill, like Mad had his extinguisher or Cal his mine. I dunno. Do we should let him alive? That's what are you saying?

1 minute ago, ovinomanc3r said:

but scum never needed a weapon to kill. The weapon could be just an item for a special kill, like Mad had his extinguisher or Cal his mine. I dunno. Do we should let him alive? That's what are you saying?

I'm not positive. I don't get the vibe he is lying though. He warned us his weapon was stolen, he referenced charges and the potential for it to currently be exhausted. It sounds like he isn't mafia aligned, but also isn't town aligned.

His flavor puts him as a Rebel covert operative answering directly to Dravin. That sounds like neutral third party to me. I mean, there is always a chance it's an elaborate ruse. But we lynched Cal the other day out of what I feel like was a sense of obligation cause he was at L1 when the cracks in his guilt were already starting to show. We had already starting considering third party shenanigans or something because lets be frank, if we want to believe either Vis or Cal was lying we should have insta lynched Vis this morning. The fact we didn't means that if we had taken a breath and thought things out we might not have lost so many townies.

Obviously he's been at L1 that if there is a scum in a the non-voting they couldn't or didn't jump in and hammer. So either scum are already all voting when he was at L1, or Preyer is scum.

Hitting Preyer to narrow down that field isn't pointless, but then we have to make sure we get it right tomorrow -if we all wake up tomorrow.

11 hours ago, LTD said:

Kill him.

Kill him now.

why did you have so much haste in him dying exactly?

I suppose I can be convinced to vote elsewhere, but it will be very difficult. I think its dangerous to assume Preyer completed his wincon, or that he can’t kill anything. Why would we? Because he said so? I mean, hes been very pleasant but not super forthcoming. He hasnt claimed, he hasnt answered Ovis questions. And I’m not sure I’d believe him if he did.

Where would we go if not him? Anyone have a case to present?

3 minutes ago, BrobaFett said:

I'm not positive. I don't get the vibe he is lying though. He warned us his weapon was stolen, he referenced charges and the potential for it to currently be exhausted. It sounds like he isn't mafia aligned, but also isn't town aligned.

His flavor puts him as a Rebel covert operative answering directly to Dravin. That sounds like neutral third party to me. I mean, there is always a chance it's an elaborate ruse. But we lynched Cal the other day out of what I feel like was a sense of obligation cause he was at L1 when the cracks in his guilt were already starting to show. We had already starting considering third party shenanigans or something because lets be frank, if we want to believe either Vis or Cal was lying we should have insta lynched Vis this morning. The fact we didn't means that if we had taken a breath and thought things out we might not have lost so many townies.

Obviously he's been at L1 that if there is a scum in a the non-voting they couldn't or didn't jump in and hammer. So either scum are already all voting when he was at L1, or Preyer is scum.

Hitting Preyer to narrow down that field isn't pointless, but then we have to make sure we get it right tomorrow -if we all wake up tomorrow.

I agree.

Sadly all I know is I am town and Mad is. Also Mad is not a thief or someone would have claimed the extinguisher was not his. Visovics visits people and both you and LTD are lurkers.

I will check voting records

Ok, then lets hammer Preyer and when he flips town we will just know the scum are the voters.

I'm not a lurker, I just don't have any items nor a particularly useful ability.

My best case would be against LTD at this moment, or potentially revisting Visovics.