49 minutes ago, ovinomanc3r said:

yesterday you really thought you would.

well I was basically town in everyone's books, and scum knew I had an action that didn't give feedback, the longer scum leaves me the more risks they are taking

No. Dude i havent even started my morning commute.

On 7/7/2018 at 5:10 AM, Lord Preyer said:

Gentlebeings, if we’re gonna make it across this lake we need cool heads and cold hearts. I’ve checked our supplies. I’ve double checked. I’ve triple checked. And you should know I hate checks. Moose over there once had to walk me back from beatin’ a Quarter Master bloody back on Ord Mantell when he asked me to count the regiments meiloorun stock.

But I have been checking.

There’s no other way to look at it: we’re gonna run out of supplies long before we reach the, err, *cough* RDZ.

Simply put fellas, I don’t think all of us have enough heater units, ration packs or fresh water to share for a hike this long and tough and cold. I know we all swore to live together, die alone but the supplies may not give us that chance.

We may have to let somebody... find there own way out there on the ice.

I’d like to have started this with some kind of preamble, but I’m on mobile and its a ***** now that I’ve hit the buttons so whatever. I think Preyer killed Gink. This post above talks about supplies not letting us all make it out together, and actually indicates a willingness to have players die, even taking a direct hand in the action. Flavor? Sure. But is it flavor thats getting a bit too cute? Does it speak to state of mind? I initally wrote it off as silly flavor.

On 7/7/2018 at 5:28 AM, Ginkapo said:

Why is the adventures of Preyer and Mandy? Why not all of us? Whats the connection between you two?

Gink asks a direct question. This is the twilight period of D1. He never gets an answer, save that I’m pretty sure Preyer killed him.

On 7/8/2018 at 5:39 PM, Lord Preyer said:

GINK!

It’s ok @Ginkapo . Stay with us. You’re gonna make it. Come on marines: MOVE! Field Medic in the night did a good job patchin’ him up but we still need to stabilise him.

Here, drink some water. Guys, we need to keep him hydrated. And keep that chest elevated too. Blaster burnoff is nasty at the best of times - and I’ve seldom seen one so bad and yet still have the guy live...

So GroPo’s, we gotta traitor droid, a Kraken-matin’ Ewok-lover and days of hike left. This is bad.

Bad enough to make it worth our while considering whether the hammer on Jabba was a double bluff? Sure “considering” but I think we should be careful about outsmartin’ ourselves.

For now, color me unconvinced and here’s why:

Let’s take a moment and think about those crucial moments leading up to @Caldias bringin’ the hammer down on the JabbaBot: for me the crucial thing here is that there was plenty of time on the clock before we needed to make the call. If Cal was also a ScumBot than he coulda waited to see if the lynchtrain ran off in some other direction. I get the busin’ a scummate to misdirect idea but woulda reckoned on that happening when the clock was nearer zero. After all, we’ve all seen trains fly off in new directions faster than a Dug drivin’ a Pod against a Slaverat on a backwater.

This is Preyers first post after that, and he even mentions Ginkapo! He shows such concern for his wellbeing! Is it because he knows he’s about to die? No answer to Ginks question tho.

On 7/8/2018 at 5:44 PM, ovinomanc3r said:

Do you see that post like this works as proof that hammering a mate was not a bad idea at all?

Ovi asks a direct question.

On 7/8/2018 at 5:50 PM, Lord Preyer said:

Yep. Totally accept that Ovi. Imp clever psyops can sure be that crafty. But if everything is a double bluff than we may end up cuttin’ our own throats when shavin’ because... REASONS!

So, I accept that it’s possible it was a TownCred move by @Caldias but think he coulda got the same cred but later if he’d waited to see if the train flew off somewhere else first and maybe seen his scummate live too.

Ovi recieves a direct answer. Maybe Preyer just missed the question Gink posed during twilight.

On 7/9/2018 at 4:43 AM, Ginkapo said:

SCninj. Sbeware spossible smultiple sfactions

SPreyer. Syou sand SMandy swerewolves?

Well, if Preyer missed it, here’s that same question, posed again.

On 7/9/2018 at 6:19 AM, Lord Preyer said:

Let the record show marines, that I filed my analysis, saw there was plenty of time on the clock, stated my intended vote time and then (because my bodyclock is on Planet Engerland time from my last deploy) checked out at what was 0126hrs intending to vote after I got some shut eye and could see where the talkin’ had got us by then. I was actually a bit surprised to wake to the sound of DH-17s after all. If not voting when there’s more than 30% time on the clock and it’s very late locally is a scum tell than so be it. But in my book it ain’t.

Maybe he missed Ginks direct question again? But he’s right about Cal’s quick hammer. We can’t know what else might have come to light, and I know we’re not alone in believing that hammer was unnecessarily fast regardless of how its looked at in hindsight.

On 7/9/2018 at 9:02 AM, CaribbeanNinja said:

Soldier, give us some feedback on who you think is scum! If you're town that is what we need!

What is your analysis of the current argument between Caldias and Madaghmire!

Ninja pointing out that Preyer has offered little of substance.

On 7/9/2018 at 2:02 PM, Lord Preyer said:

TO: TARG GIRL

FROM: RAPIER BLADE

RE: IMP INFIL

Dravin, you’re right. The Imps are among us.

Here’s the SitRep:

• We’ve scratched one ImpInfilBot but there is at least one other.
• Some of the squad think the problem is even greater and that a Lupine Virus might be at work in the squad. But it was a full moon last night and yet there were no kills so I don’t buy that.
• I originally didn’t think that @Caldias was an Imp on grounds of his speed of hammer but having listened to some of the counter-insurgency vets (especially @Madaghmire ) I changed my mind on that score. If I had to vote right now I’d vote CAL.
• There are two ways of looking at @Ginkapo : On the one hand he took a zap for the good guys last night but it’s not beyond the realms of Imp Scum to self-wound to deflect suspicion. Still, that doesn’t seem to be the probable bet so pending developments I reckon he’s good after all but I’m keeping an eye on him as he’s a crafty devil always.

This reads like a summation and a wierd look at Gink, who at the time sure looked super town. Seems a forced analysis, intended to create distance later. Leaning on my name as reasoning to vote Cal is also concerning. There were others at this point who had Cal high on their list, and naming me specifically as your follow reasoning is odd. Except, if you know Cal is going to flop town, then of those arguing against Cal I’m by far easiest to flip suspicion onto. He mentions the werewolf thing, only to say he doesn’t believe it.

On 7/9/2018 at 2:28 PM, Lord Preyer said:

Ah - the LupineVirus Theory strikes again. I read that as there was a full moon out “tonight” as in on the night it was said on, not on a night that was at that time more than 48hrs away! Could have been my mistake but that was my read!

This is actually in response to Pod. He still doesn’t believe in werewolves.

On 7/9/2018 at 3:17 PM, Ginkapo said:

SPreyer sare syou, SMandy Swerewolves?

Syou snotice SI sdie stonight?

Gink again pushes on Preyer. Shortly thereafter he bursts into flames. This is very frustrating for me personally, because had I known he was about to catch fire, or was on fire, I could have saved him. (Thats not a doc claim, I’m not a doc) I have a fire extinguisher tho, and I could have helped him out. Its also why I don’t buy Ovi saying that the flames are just a flavor thing. If they were just a flavor thing I wouldnt have a fire extinguisher.

I think Preyer is our firebug. I’m not sure if hes scum, or an unaffiliated SK, but I’m confident he’s not town. I think thats the reason he was unwilling to directly engage Ginkapo, lest gink draw him into a protracted argument and suspicion mount when the BBQ started up.

Anyway thats my case.

hmmmm that's interesting

@Lord Preyer wanna answer Gink's question or evade it again ?

14 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:

Its also why I don’t buy Ovi saying that the flames are just a flavor thing. If they were just a flavor thing I wouldnt have a fire extinguisher.

When I said flames could be just flavour I meant that we didn't have to take the arsonist role literally. There is the poisoner role. What I was saying is that saying arsonist must #prime and #trigger was not an argument. I was talking about just one killing mechanic. Pod gave it flames flavour as he gave (if he did) you extinguisher flavor for your #protect or #save action. I don't care if it is called arsonist or armada-complainers I pointed to the mechanic. Gink died during the day and no action was triggered ergo... the action was troggered at night. But whatever, it is not an important point of argue.

Time to check your case but I had to say that I hoped something better than "he ignored Gink several times so obvioulsy he killed him". But definitely LP's first post D2 got me too for a while. I thought he was the doc actually.

On 7/5/2018 at 1:22 AM, Lord Preyer said:

Hey you GroundPounders! When do we start moving? Who’s I/C now the ExO’s scratched?

And who here knows what a GroPo’s meant to do for firewater on a hike like this? Just think, while we slum it the Carnaby’s of Command are likely sippin’ their fine Toniray even as we slug it. Makes me sick - and mad!

I’d trade my bion-hand’s reserve power pack for a lick o’ the ol’ stuff right about now.

But what’s the wait boys? Let’s roll!

What firewater is? Cause google translator told me water to fight fire but Cambirdge Dictionary just record one entry for a very strong alcoholic drink.

40 minutes ago, ovinomanc3r said:

What firewater is? Cause google translator told me water to fight fire but Cambirdge Dictionary just record one entry for a very strong alcoholic drink.

Firewater is slang for whiskey/other such drinks.

@Madaghmire is your extinguisher a one-shot action?

is also a day action?

One shot, day or night

Loyal Troopers, ImpBot scum, crazy fire worshipers, non-full moon wolves, thieves, part-time firemen and whatever else - greetings!

Live together, die alone.

Those of us who actually went to the Academy know what that means.

Sadly, some of you didn’t so some of you don’t.

At first I reckoned it had to be you @Visovics - after all, you seemed to lay it out on the line for Cal lyin’. But you didn’t vote to hammer him which I think is important.

I know some attention focused on @Madaghmire right outta the gate today but I wanted to give the fella time to come back and lay out his theory of the case. It sounded like he was workin’ through a lot of data and that takes time which - further spontaneous combustions not withstandin’ - we actually had a bit of so I didn’t want to rush to action. Boy, am I regretin’ that call now.

This brings me to @BrobaFett and his shade throwin’ which I’m still just about inclined to take as an honest mistake but I need to recheck how his voting has gone but I think it’s been solid.

As I said, I had no warning with Gink. Did anyone know ahead of time he was going to burn up aside from you two?

The fact that you even pose that question, to me, shows it wasnt as surprising to you.

I’m 100% all in on Preyer.

##vote lord preyer

If he flops town I’m willing to call the ewoks down on myself.

13 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:

One shot, day or night

Without fire warnings it seems the most useless protect action ever.

Unless the arsonist have several shots and there is a chance of you stopping one.

ok guys, who is the roleblocker?

why we had two deaths?

Just now, ovinomanc3r said:

why we had two deaths?

3 possibilities

1) 2 factions

2) Poisoner mafia

3) Vigilante (unlikely), 3rd party arsonist, or SK

why is Mad chasing the arsonist if he acknoledged he could be just 3rd party?

I mean, we're 7 alive. The arsonist (LP?) desn't kill at night so lynching a 3rd party let us with 6 players -2 at night... 4 alive tomorrow. With two killers is just ask for a lose.

I’m chasing anyone killing town. Why wouldnt you want to prevent someone from killing town?

3 minutes ago, Visovics said:

3 possibilities

1) 2 factions

2) Poisoner mafia

3) Vigilante (unlikely), 3rd party arsonist, or SK

I am not a poison-doc and you aren't either. We got a extinguisher (we did?) so where is he?

3 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:

I’m chasing anyone killing town. Why wouldnt you want to prevent someone from killing town?

Cause 1 if he has more than one shot he already killed someone (we will know at the end of the day) and being third party makes things even harder. So better you use your extinguisher right now.

And 2 if he is one-shot only he won't kill anyone anymore.

I am not against lynching him. I am against lynching him before being relatively sure he is scum.

4 minutes ago, ovinomanc3r said:

why is Mad chasing the arsonist if he acknoledged he could be just 3rd party?

I mean, we're 7 alive. The arsonist (LP?) desn't kill at night so lynching a 3rd party let us with 6 players -2 at night... 4 alive tomorrow. With two killers is just ask for a lose.

Faulty. This assumes three possible kills, we’ve never seen more than 2. I dont think they can kill more than 2.

8 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:

Faulty. This assumes three possible kills, we’ve never seen more than 2. I dont think they can kill more than 2.

No it doesn't.

This assumes any of the last night deaths was a LP's victim as you should agree if you really think he is the arsonist what means that the night killers will live to kill again if we lynch LP.

Easy. We lynch LP. 6 reaches the night (if LP doesn't kill someone else at the end of the day), another two deaths during the night let us with 4 alive tomorrow so unless they are two factions we will be screwed.

So unless LP is scum I don't see the point on lynching him other than hoping two faction killing each other or CNinja coming back from beyond.

Or you proof me that two deaths doesn't mean two scum left both able to kill us.

3 minutes ago, ovinomanc3r said:

No it doesn't.

This assumes any of the last night deaths was a LP's victim as you should agree if you really think he is the arsonist what means that the night killers will live to kill again if we lynch LP.

Easy. We lynch LP. 6 reaches the night (if LP doesn't kill someone else at the end of the day), another two deaths during the night let us with 4 alive tomorrow so unless they are two factions we will be screwed.

Actually if we think about it

if it’s one faction, then 2 kills every night won’t happen

and so there is also the chance of one faction inflicting a kill on the other with the 2 nks