If that's addressed to me, then I don't know what to make of it apart from it seems to be the usual bollocks of which these games consist.
GUERILLA MAFIA.
7 minutes ago, CaribbeanNinja said:If we didn't have the controversy with Cal and Vis, I'd vote on this actually. Can you give us a reason for voting GNIps?
Also cool, now that Mando's here everyone has spoken. @MandalorianMoose what is your read on the issues between Cal and Vis?
I’ll read through again and then post
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My level of suspicion goes
1) Cal
2) Broba
3) Mads/Vis (depending on how the Cal thing turns out)
just a heads up though this will probably be my last Mafia game, it’s a lot of time that I don’t have to read/reread/quote/build arguments on a forum. Y’all are fun but I just don’t have the energy to dedicate to it, I’ll probably be more comfortable in the observers chat
4 hours ago, ovinomanc3r said:D would require another doctor to save the Bus Driver I guess (if already one protected Gink).
Unless Gink was the busdriver/roleblocker/visitor. Given his actions I doubt it though.
So, this is very weird. The Vis/Cal thing really doesn't look good for Cal. I would vote him now, except we have so much time still.
However, at the same time, the evidence seems to stack up too nicely. Almost ever ything points to Cal.
Vis is almost exempted by the folly of a mafia tying his fate to the flip of Cal. However, if the suggestion of 2 mafia factions proves true, this could make sense. @Visovics what did you visit Cal for, and what was the result? Can you actually prove that the chance he is telling the truth is nil?
Mad is of course the next target of suspicion, though that really does depend on Cal's flip. At the moment, he seems innocent enough, though Cal does make good points about him.
I agree with Moose that Broba is acting suspicuously, but he is far lower down on my list than the others.
SMy srole sis slynchproof. SI sdid sothing slast snight
4 minutes ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:Vis is almost exempted by the folly of a mafia tying his fate to the flip of Cal. However, if the suggestion of 2 mafia factions proves true, this could make sense. @Visovics what did you visit Cal for, and what was the result? Can you actually prove that the chance he is telling the truth is nil?
Not a killing action it seems. Everything else is rolefishing I think.
7 minutes ago, ovinomanc3r said:Not a killing action it seems. Everything else is rolefishing I think.
I don't really want to know his role, just whether he can be certain that no shenanigans took place such that both he and Cal are innocent.
11 minutes ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:Vis is almos t exempted by the folly of a mafia tying his fate to the flip of Cal. However, if the suggestion of 2 mafia factions proves true, this could make sense. @Visovics what did you visit Ca l for, and what was the result? Can you actu ally pr ov e that the chance he is telling the truth is nil?
I’d rather not claim at this point really
I can’t prove, and I don’t receive any results, so as far as I know, I put my action to visit Cal, and I am alive, which doesn’t match with his claim. Of course scum shenanigans could have happened, but also couldn’t
Just now, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:I don't really want to know his role, just whether he can be certain that no shenanigans took place such that both he and Cal are innocent.
Nope, no certainty
Well, I'm ready for the flip if you guys have nothing else?
38 minutes ago, Ginkapo said:SMy srole sis slynchproof. SI sdid sothing slast snight
Ok is no one going to talk about Gink’s claim when it wasn’t really needed?
Now that I've had my Milo, I regret the tone of my earlier post.
Sorry.
We have (as always) a matrix.
Either Cal is telling the truth "Tracker, one shot mine", or he is not "Mafia."
Then either Vis is telling the truth "I visited Cal" or he is not "I'm Mafia - please kill me."
If they are both telling the truth, then we have a third party involved - some kind of role blocker who acted on Caldias. I don't think we need a fourth party (the "thief" who steals the mine - I think it just disappears as "a wizard did it" to prevent Caldias using his mine trap trick twice.
If they are both lying (ie, are both Mafia) then THAT MAKES NO SENSE AT ALL because why would Vis tell a lie about upsetting the lie that Caldias told?
So, three options - both are telling the truth (and therefore some kind of roleblocker), Cal is telling truth and Vis is lying (which is a crazy risky thing for Vis to do), or Cal is lying and Vis is telling the truth.
The best way I can see forward is to lynch Caldias.
I still don't trust Ghost.
## unvote
I'll be on for the next hour or so - if there are other options I am open to them as well. I will then vote for Caldias before heading out for the rest of the day.
Just now, Visovics said:Ok is no one going to talk about Gink’s claim when it wasn’t really needed?
Well, yes. How can a role be lynch proof?
We could test this by lynching Ginkapo and seeing what happens.
I feel it is more likely that his slurred speech indicates he is likely playing a role of drunk, perhaps as a result of the alleged medical intervention recieved night one.
Alternatively, he recieved no such intervention, and is required to post gibberish (which includes the doctor saving him). He has not answered my question.
4 minutes ago, LTD said:How can a role be lynch proof
Lynchproof is the role
Friggin' Role Madness. Maybe the Ewoks will eat Pod.
Just now, CaribbeanNinja said:Friggin' Role Madness. Maybe the Ewoks will eat Pod.
Oh wait he's already dead.
Indeed. I just read that a few minutes ago.
But why claim it? Most of us are assuming he's town - no accusation made against him.
I suppose because someone suggested he was a roleblocker (because, as a slurred speech drunk, roleblocker is often the drunk's ability (according to the mafia wiki I visited a few minutes ago as well)).
Is it possible Visovics that you were role blocked in some way?
So your attempt to visit Caldias did not occur, and his mine disappeared as a result of his normal (claimed) activity?
At this point, with it being between me and Vis, shouldn't we be getting a claim from Vis as well? If people don't think that its better to wait that's cool, but we have tracker and cop confirmed. How many "visit" roles are there?
5 minutes ago, LTD said:Is it possible Visovics that you were role blocked in some way?
So your attempt to visit Caldias did not occur, and his mine disappeared as a result of his normal (claimed) activity?
It is possible, as I don’t get feedback from my action
Could Vis be a werewolf that is one-shot bulletproof?
31 minutes ago, Visovics said:It is possible, as I don’t get feedback from my action
So your feedback goes to someone else? Or there is no feedback? That confuses me.
Well, I'm heading out, so I will cast my vote.
## vote Caldias
##vote caldias
So back at L1, eh? Woooo now it's a party again. Did Mando miss CNinja's unvote and was hoping to hammer? Someone hammer me so I can see WTF is going on in this observer's doc.
Do it for these two! Think of the children!
