3 minutes ago, Ginkapo said:##svote SCal
Sunvoted sto sget shim soff sL-1 sonly
???
I think more pressure is not possible. He already claimed.
GUERILLA MAFIA.
SPod ssays sbusdrivers sdo svisit
2) @Madaghmire
3) EbonHawk-Town Cop- Deceased
4) @GhostofNobodyInParticular (1) LTD
5) @ovinomanc3r
6) @Lord Preyer
8] @BrobaFett
9) @Visovics
10) Jabbawookie- Mafia Framer- Deceased
11) @LTD
12)
@Caldias
(4)
Ginkapo
, Madaghmire, Ovi, Cninja,
Visovics,
Ginkapo
13) @Ginkapo
With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch
on mobile so may have missed a vote if you think Cal's L1. I count L2
@PodRacer is there an order of operations or does everything happen at same time?
Order of Ops (as in some actions take priority over others) chronological receipt of actions plays no part.
Edited by PodRacerFWIW Pod told me that if, say a doc then a scum comes to visit, my mine would have killed both
TO: TARG GIRL
FROM: RAPIER BLADE
RE: IMP INFIL
Dravin, you’re right. The Imps are among us.
Here’s the SitRep:
- We’ve scratched one ImpInfilBot but there is at least one other.
- Some of the squad think the problem is even greater and that a Lupine Virus might be at work in the squad. But it was a full moon last night and yet there were no kills so I don’t buy that.
- I originally didn’t think that @Caldias was an Imp on grounds of his speed of hammer but having listened to some of the counter-insurgency vets (especially @Madaghmire ) I changed my mind on that score. If I had to vote right now I’d vote CAL.
- There are two ways of looking at @Ginkapo : On the one hand he took a zap for the good guys last night but it’s not beyond the realms of Imp Scum to self-wound to deflect suspicion. Still, that doesn’t seem to be the probable bet so pending developments I reckon he’s good after all but I’m keeping an eye on him as he’s a crafty devil always.
1 minute ago, Caldias said:FWIW Pod told me that if, say a doc then a scum comes to visit, my mine would have killed both
yeh I think the only way around your mine would have been a roleblock preventing your action to set it up...
1 minute ago, Visovics said:yeh I think the only way around your mine would have been a roleblock preventing your action to set it up...
but not to be gone.
@Caldias are you sure it went for good?
Yes. I was told that there was no sign of any dead people but no sign of the mine either, and that I pondered to myself how strange that seemed.
Men, if I remember our game theory classes from Academy days the chain of logic would go like this:
- @Caldias claims in a way that can only be rebutted by death or character investigation
- @Visovics counter claim on Cal that would be highly dangerous to Vis if Cal proved Town
- Roleblocker theory could explain discrepancy (‘Order of Operations’ argument) but this requires a chain of events breaking in just such a way that delivers this nightmare scenario for ‘Innocent’ Cal
- In contrast, the old Jedi Mystic Occam with his Razor would argue for a far simpler explanation: Cal is scum and Vis can be trusted because if Cal is Town and Vis has lied Vis has lined himself up for death next.
- “Ergo” as those fancypants profs used to say: we should hit Cal if that’s what Vis swears by
Have I missed anything or made a basic error here? I don’t want to hammer Cal if I’ve screwed this reasoning up but I think that’s it.
Seem to be on the right track Pvt. Preyer.
But it's only not trustworthy because of how patently obvious it is.
Something else has really been bugging me- You said that it was a full moon last night so werewolf seemed implausible. However, that's not accurate. Pod said the full moon was *tonight*. Perhaps the werewolf faction only get a NK on the full moon nights, which would mean tonight, and not last night.
Also makes me think - perhaps you knew that and were hoping to slightly twist the GM message to throw people of the scent.
How about it Preyer? Got a little bit of the wolf blood running beneath that armor?
3 minutes ago, Lord Preyer said:Men, if I remember our game theory classes from Academy days the chain of logic would go like this:
- @Caldias claims in a way that can only be rebutted by death or character investigation
- @Visovics counter claim on Cal that would be highly dangerous to Vis if Cal proved Town
- Roleblocker theory could explain discrepancy (‘Order of Operations’ argument) but this requires a chain of events breaking in just such a way that delivers this nightmare scenario for ‘Innocent’ Cal
- In contrast, the old Jedi Mystic Occam with his Razor would argue for a far simpler explanation: Cal is scum and Vis can be trusted because if Cal is Town and Vis has lied Vis has lined himself up for death next.
- “Ergo” as those fancypants profs used to say: we should hit Cal if that’s what Vis swears by
Have I missed anything or made a basic error here? I don’t want to hammer Cal if I’ve screwed this reasoning up but I think that’s it.
Yes, many people voted before claiming and didn't speak after that.
My only concern about roleblocker is that from what Cal is saying the mine is an item, not an ability. Can you roleblock an item?
1 minute ago, BrobaFett said:Seem to be on the right track Pvt. Preyer.
But it's only not trustworthy because of how patently obvious it is.
Something else has really been bugging me- You said that it was a full moon last night so werewolf seemed implausible. However, that's not accurate. Pod said the full moon was *tonight*. Perhaps the werewolf faction only get a NK on the full moon nights, which would mean tonight, and not last night.
Also makes me think - perhaps you knew that and were hoping to slightly twist the GM message to throw people of the scent.
How about it Preyer? Got a little bit of the wolf blood running beneath that armor?
I need some native guidance about it. If I said tonight last night, is it not last night?
8 minutes ago, Lord Preyer said:Men, if I remember our game theory classes from Academy days the chain of logic would go like this:
- @Caldias claims in a way that can only be rebutted by death or character investigation
- @Visovics counter claim on Cal that would be highly dangerous to Vis if Cal proved Town
- Roleblocker theory could explain discrepancy (‘Order of Operations’ argument) but this requires a chain of events breaking in just such a way that delivers this nightmare scenario for ‘Innocent’ Cal
- In contrast, the old Jedi Mystic Occam with his Razor would argue for a far simpler explanation: Cal is scum and Vis can be trusted because if Cal is Town and Vis has lied Vis has lined himself up for death next.
- “Ergo” as those fancypants profs used to say: we should hit Cal if that’s what Vis swears by
Have I missed anything or made a basic error here? I don’t want to hammer Cal if I’ve screwed this reasoning up but I think that’s it.
My worry here is that scum already had a "screw with town" role, so is there any other possibility of a role screwing with Vis' action that may have saved him?
If not, then I agree, bus me, then Vis, then look hard as **** at Mads IMHO
Just now, Madaghmire said:My only concern about roleblocker is that from what Cal is saying the mine is an item, not an ability. Can you roleblock an item?
I guess you can if it requires some kind of xxset the mine. The roleblocker wouldn't prevent the mine from killing rather than Caldias from seting it.
On 7/7/2018 at 8:10 PM, PodRacer said:There is a full moon out tonight.
Ah - the LupineVirus Theory strikes again. I read that as there was a full moon out “tonight” as in on the night it was said on, not on a night that was at that time more than 48hrs away! Could have been my mistake but that was my read!
2 minutes ago, Caldias said:My worry here is that scum already had a "screw with town" role, so is there any other possibility of a role screwing with Vis' action that may have saved him?
If not, then I agree, bus me, then Vis, then look hard as **** at Mads IMHO
What role would that even be?
Boys, I’ve heard the claims and counter claims and charged my bionic hand up for this moment and it is ITCHING to pull some ImpBot bioneurals right out. ##vote @Caldias
L-1.
Caldias set the mine.
Roleblocker blocked Caldias.
Thief got the mine from Caldias.
What bothers me...
If Vis is a roleblocker what problem had him with Caldias's claim?
If Vis is a thief what problem had him with Caldias's claim?
If Vis isn't a roleblocker or a thief, Caldias rode a party at home!
Just now, Madaghmire said:What role would that even be?
I have no clue, man. But it really is just screwing with me why he'd go after me so hard. If he is scum, he already had town's favor. So its a needless risk. But I know my mine didn't go off, and he's claiming to have visited, so he's either lying or some shenanigans occurred. So could scum have some sort of bomb defuser or something? Or could Vis' win condition be to get me killed?
Someone put me out of my misery. Enjoy the wolf party.
10 minutes ago, ovinomanc3r said:I need some native guidance about it. If I said tonight last night, is it not last night?
Yeah sorry, just realized the full moon post was right before night actions ended. I thought it was right after, which would mean tonight was full moon.