hmm so Caldias made what I would consider a week claim and Vis claimed to visit him what "proof" Caldias being lying...
A. Caldias is lying.
B. Vis does, but why? What he gains from it when Caldias flipped town?
C. Both are ******* liars and planned together so when Caldias flipped mafia Vis would be completely clean.
D. Another explanation like bus driver.
1 minute ago, ovinomanc3r said:hmm so Caldias made what I would consider a week claim and Vis claimed to visit him what "proof" Caldias being lying...
A. Caldias is lying.
B. Vis does, but why? What he gains from it when Caldias flipped town?
C. Both are ******* liars and planned together so when Caldias flipped mafia Vis would be completely clean.
D. Another explanation like bus driver.
B. is something I'm struggling with. He was already pretty much cleared as town. After I flip he's going to look scummier than anyone.
Just now, Caldias said:B. is something I'm struggling with. He was already pretty much cleared as town. After I flip he's going to look scummier than anyone.
That is what if he lies you too. There is no reason to put himself that kind of target whenyou are already about to be lynched and your claim is not... well... great!
Just now, ovinomanc3r said:That is what if he lies you too. There is no reason to put himself that kind of target whenyou are already about to be lynched and your claim is not... well... great!
My claim is just the truth, man. If I wanted to lie I'm sure I'd be able to come up with something better. Could he have a win con of getting me lynched? I really don't get why he'd stick his neck out this much.
would count a bus driver as visiting Caldias if he choose to swap him for someone else?
Just now, ovinomanc3r said:would count a bus driver as visiting Caldias if he choose to swap him for someone else?
I'd say so...
1 minute ago, ovinomanc3r said:would count a bus driver as visiting Caldias if he choose to swap him for someone else?
but wouldn't that mean the person swapped would have triggered the mine?
unless no actions were made by that other person? I dunno that is sticky.
But I agree - its a pretty weak claim
1 minute ago, Caldias said:but wouldn't that mean the person swapped would have triggered the mine?
yes, that I why I asked.
If the bus driver would explode then there was not bus driver.
Just now, ovinomanc3r said:yes, that I why I asked.
If the bus driver would explode then there was not bus driver.
which will look really bad for Vis.
Vis, I'll save you a spot in the observer's lounge.
1 minute ago, Caldias said:which will look really bad for Vis.
Vis, I'll save you a spot in the observer's lounge.
well if you flip town in some weird possibility then at least I know I won't die at night...
1 minute ago, Visovics said:well if you flip town in some weird possibility then at least I know I won't die at night...
True, if by some weird possibility you are actually Town, you'll make an excellent place for scum to push on.
Just now, Caldias said:True, if by some weird possibility you are actually Town, you'll make a n excellent place for scum to push on.
well it's the logical move, scum could even just sit back and watch town jump on me
33 minutes ago, ovinomanc3r said:hmm so Caldias made what I would consider a week claim and Vis claimed to visit him what "proof" Caldias being lying...
A. Caldias is lying.
B. Vis does, but why? What he gains from it when Caldias flipped town?
C. Both are ******* liars and planned together so when Caldias flipped mafia Vis would be completely clean.
D. Another explanation like bus driver.
D would require another doctor to save the Bus Driver I guess (if already one protected Gink).
I don't see a scenario where both were town...
Sroleblock son smine
1 hour ago, Caldias said:All righty, here goes.
Aside from my role, I had a one-shot proximity mine which killed any visitors I had at night. I hammered Jabba because I was about 80% sure he was scum, and I hoped to seem threatening enough, if Jabba ended up being scum like I thought he was, to lure another scum to try and kill me. The gambit didn't work; they went after Gink instead. And apparently my mine is gone, so be careful visiting folks out there.
My role? I'm a tracker. I can track movement at night if I don't set my mine. But I set my mine, so no tracking info from last night.
Now, can someone explain why my attempt at analyzing mads is deflecting, but him immediately counter-accusing is not?
The problem now is that I cannot see an out here for you. IMO you should have tracked, as scum would have never tried to kill you with what happened D1. Also, we have Vis claiming to have visited you, and he's currently more a town read in my book. (Pod is the Mod, so I'm guessing there can be crazy shenanigans involved.)
(If it's any consolation Cal, I can see you being town, you've put up a **** of a fight whether you're town or scum.)
2 minutes ago, CaribbeanNinja said:The problem now is that I cannot see an out here for you. IMO you should have tracked, as scum would have never tried to kill you with what happened D1. Also, we have Vis claiming to have visited you, and he's currently more a town read in my book. (Pod is the Mod, so I'm guessing there can be crazy shenanigans involved.)
(If it's any consolation Cal, I can see you being town, you've put up a **** of a fight whether you're town or scum.)
Yup, if I had to do it over, after Gink and Vis raised suspicions during twilight time, I should've just tracked instead. Oh well, at least I outed one more scum. Vis painted himself in a corner I don't see an out from for him, either.
4 minutes ago, CaribbeanNinja said:(Pod is the Mod, so I'm guessing there can be crazy shenanigans involved.)
Sseriously? Sare syou sguessing scrazy sshenanigans sinvolved? swhy?
8 minutes ago, Ginkapo said:Sroleblock son smine
is this possible? I mean, the roleblocker wouln't die? how many things to learn yet...
Well here's my assessment:
The evidence is super stacked against Cal: Hammered a bit quick, a deflection stuff, and then a claim that is refuted by Vis.
My problem is that I believe him. And don't think for a minute that I don't think Cal has the skill to bantha$hit us into making us believe him.
2 minutes ago, ovinomanc3r said:is this possible? I mean, the roleblocker wouln't die? how many things to learn yet...
Saction sorder sussually sfavors sroleblockers
So 1 mafia kills, 1 werewolf kills, 1 doc saves, 1 roleblock blocks, 1 mine is set, 1 Vis does vis-things and no one dies.
It seems it was a party tonight but all the fun was during the day.
this is all very confusing
##unvote
just realized we still have 2 days, we got time to figure this out
##svote SCal
Sunvoted sto sget shim soff sL-1 sonly