4 minutes ago, ovinomanc3r said:

I never claimed of knowing Ebon's role...

I said I knew something scum will have noticed, being that thing that his role was just useful.

I also already explained why I thought that.

I, of course, could not engage Ebon and let it be. I don't think it would have changed anything but who knows. I just tried to point out why what he did was dangerous even not being intended to be a breadcrumb (real or fake). If you follow the conversation I never ever pointed him as scum.

If someone is kind enough to elaborate the case against me I will try to elaborate more. If not, then I understand it is D1 and I hope you will undertand that there is nothing to argue with against "he is being weird/sarcastic".

Don't wory about claim panic. It is just L-4. I am worry about being lynched while asleep preventing dramatism from my big entrance, though.

Okay, fair enough. You just heavily inferred enough knowledge of his role to know his usefulness. That's really a semantics argument IMO.

And looks like you were wrong. I mean, based off your first post I could say oh Ovi must be a Trapper because he said he wanted to be an Ewok. Anything can be taken as a breadcrumb, honestly.

I am not putting a vote on you yet because I'm not quite sure, and Mando has been to quiet to ignore, so voting him I saw as more useful.

Okay so I’d say the options are:

Ovi - see above

Mando - actually almost asking for a lynch

Jabbawookie - What is the current argument against him?

6 minutes ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

My argument against you is that defending is all you’ve done Ovi. A solid D1 argument is always tough.

could you point me when? I only remeber to anwer questions and joking about Gink's vote each time someone show a little interest on me. Seriously, it is to give you a proper answer.

Also all I saw so far d1 was just arguing if Mad should or not be punished cause the modkill... The more inquisitive player is already dead and just asked about why someone ever could think there was a breadcrumb within a flavour post and after saying that post must have meaning for someone.

I already said I think Gink's vote on me was just a trick to invite scum to join the train or to blame someone else d2 when I flipped town because he followed him on such a poor case. I actually teased him a bit just to make easier to someone else to bite what I tought it was a lure. You can see I ever dismissed his vote on me with arguments cause I thought it was a better idea that way.

I could just answer him that hiding uncertainity in how to play doesn't make me scum. As best it points to not being sure how to play a role, not an allignment. Or, pointing to an answer he gave to Ebon a page before, asking him why uncertainity to play fall out from his "bad books" and worth a quick vote instead.

27 minutes ago, Caldias said:

Okay, fair enough. You just heavily inferred enough knowledge of his role to know his usefulness. That's really a semantics argument IMO.

And looks like you were wrong. I mean, based off your first post I could say oh Ovi must be a Trapper because he said he wanted to be an Ewok. Anything can be taken as a breadcrumb, honestly.

I am not putting a vote on you yet because I'm not quite sure, and Mando has been to quiet to ignore, so voting him I saw as more useful.

My first post is right above...

On 7/4/2018 at 10:40 PM, ovinomanc3r said:

How is that beneficial to town?

Also look at this @Caldias :

On 7/4/2018 at 11:00 PM, EbonHawk said:

Not this game, my post will have meaning for someone

Do you still think those who thought he was breadcrumbing were overthinking?

I actually don’t see an ironclad case against Ovi and am willing to move my vote. But we need a lynch.

##vote ovinomanc3r

1 minute ago, The Jabbawookie said:

I actually don’t see an ironclad case against Ovi and am willing to move my vote. But we need a lynch.

##vote ovinomanc3r

##unvote

##vote Jabba

ALL ABOARD

yup

1 hour ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

Okay so I’d say the options are:

Ovi - see above

Mando - actually almost asking for a lynch

Jabbawookie - What is the current argument against him?

17 minutes ago, The Jabbawookie said:

I actually don’t see an ironclad case against Ovi and am willing to move my vote. But we need a lynch.

##vote ovinomanc3r

There it is. I like it too.

##unvote

##vote jabbawookie

39 minutes ago, ovinomanc3r said:

Also look at this @Caldias :

Do you still think those who thought he was breadcrumbing were overthinking?

I never said that those thinking he was breadcrumbing were overthinking. I said you declaring you know enough about his role to know its importance based off the posts I saw was reaching. Still think that.

Also, my vote isn't on you. I'm not who you need to convince.

49 minutes ago, ovinomanc3r said:

On 7/4/2018 at 4:40 PM, ovinomanc3r said:

How is that beneficial to town?

48 minutes ago, ovinomanc3r said:

My first post is right above...

Fair Enough I could just say you were breadcrumbing that your role was Ginkapo instead.

Toot Toot looks like a train building. Jabbawookie seems like a solid place to at least put pressure, so instead of just watching I will

#unvote

#vote Jabbawookie

as well.

My vote stays. Still no Mando makes me nervous.

Vote count.

44 minutes ago, Ginkapo said:

##unvote

##vote Jabba

ALL ABOARD

27 minutes ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

yup

There it is. I like it too.

##unvote

##vote jabbawookie

22 minutes ago, BrobaFett said:

Toot Toot looks like a train building. Jabbawookie seems like a solid place to at least put pressure, so instead of just watching I will

#unvote

#vote Jabbawookie

as well.

. . . Wait what? Why? Because he is willing to vote for somebody he is not sold on just to have a lynch? You are voting him for that ? That's what everybody does. Who can be sold on somebody d1? You guys seem really eager to lynch him for something that is barely an offense. Heck, some would consider it proper play, since he does have to cast a vote, and better somebody you aren't sure of than nobody, right? That's what you guys always say, anyway. So why vote him for doing what you guys tend to do? What is it about this circumstance that triggers you all to vote within minutes of each other when we have nearly a day left?

19 minutes ago, Caldias said:

My vote stays. Still no Mando makes me nervous.

He showed up. Voted Jabbawookie and left. Said he was busy, and would only be able to put minimum effort into the game. See a page or so back.

1 minute ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

. . . Wait what? Why? Because he is willing to vote for somebody he is not sold on just to have a lynch? You are voting him for that ? That's what everybody does. Who can be sold on somebody d1? You guys seem really eager to lynch him for something that is barely an offense. Heck, some would consider it proper play, since he does have to cast a vote, and better somebody you aren't sure of than nobody, right? That's what you guys always say, anyway. So why vote him for doing what you guys tend to do? What is it about this circumstance that triggers you all to vote within minutes of each other when we have nearly a day left?

He showed up. Voted Jabbawookie and left. Said he was busy, and would only be able to put minimum effort into the game. See a page or so back.

Appreciate that, totally missed it. Fair enough, at least he showed up and made an effort.

##unvote

For now. I gotta say, Jabbawookie's casual "for the town" lynch but I don't think he's the one does look suspicious.

1 minute ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

. . . Wait what? Why? Because he is willing to vote for somebody he is not sold on just to have a lynch? You are voting him for that ? That's what everybody does. Who can be sold on somebody d1? You guys seem really eager to lynch him for something that is barely an offense. Heck, some would consider it proper play, since he does have to cast a vote, and better somebody you aren't sure of than nobody, right? That's what you guys always say, anyway. So why vote him for doing what you guys tend to do? What is it about this circumstance that triggers you all to vote within minutes of each other when we have nearly a day left?

He showed up. Voted Jabbawookie and left. Said he was busy, and would only be able to put minimum effort into the game. See a page or so back.

Again, I like your thinking. Especially about Cal, who yeah, not sure why he's gonna string along the Mando vote.

Let me ask you this though Nips, where is JabbaWook to defend himself? Why are you the one to? His vote switch is incredibly opportunistic. I had just called for a recount of who we thought we should lynch D1 (Ovi, Mando, or Jabba) He came back quickly to stack the vote on Ovi.

1 minute ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

Again, I like your thinking. Especially about Cal, who yeah, not sure why he's gonna string along the Mando vote.

Let me ask you this though Nips, where is JabbaWook to defend himself? Why are you the one to? His vote switch is incredibly opportunistic. I had just called for a recount of who we thought we should lynch D1 (Ovi, Mando, or Jabba) He came back quickly to stack the vote on Ovi.

I missed Mando's post, which GNIPs pointed out. I have now unvoted. IIRC, it looked like you were on board with the reasoning. Something change? Or are you just seeing my mistake as willfully ignoring Mando's post (which would be a reasonable assumption, I suppose)?

2 minutes ago, Caldias said:

I gotta say, Jabbawookie's casual "for the town" lynch but I don't think he's the one does look suspicious.

Why though? You guys have caused me to vote against my better judgment at least once (typically D1) in several past games, purely with the justification of 'We need a lynch.' Why is it different here?

1 minute ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

Let me ask you this though Nips, where is JabbaWook to defend himself? Why are you the one to? His vote switch is incredibly opportunistic. I had just called for a recount of who we thought we should lynch D1 (Ovi, Mando, or Jabba) He came back quickly to stack the vote on Ovi.

How should I know? I am defending him because I see a flaw in the reasoning behind the vote and am speaking out against it. See above, in my response to Caldias.

Just now, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

Why though? You guys have caused me to vote against my better judgment at least once (typically D1) in several past games, purely with the justification of 'We need a lynch.' Why is it different here?

I am not voting for him yet, but if I was trying to scum in plain sight, I could see being like ugh he seems so innocent but must vote to get a lynch "FOR THE TOWN"

I also saw Broba's vote read as fairly opportunistic as well, for what it's worth.

GAH. Too many tabs open. GNIPs, my last post was in reply to this one that I am quoting below, not CNinja's:

3 minutes ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

Why though? You guys have caused me to vote against my better judgment at least once (typically D1) in several past games, purely with the justification of 'We need a lynch.' Why is it different here?

How should I know? I am defending him because I see a flaw in the reasoning behind the vote and am speaking out against it. See above, in my response to Caldias.

1 minute ago, Caldias said:

GAH. Too many tabs open. GNIPs, my last post was in reply to this one that I am quoting below, not CNinja's:

Weird, my reply to GNIPs looked like I had quoted CNinja right after I posted, hence my correction. Gonna go quiet for a bit to wrap up work.

6 minutes ago, Caldias said:

IIRC, it looked like you were on board with the reasoning.

I actually think Mando's post is even more a reason to vote for him. He's either truly busy and town (might be useless), or truly busy and scum (misdirect) or not busy at all and scum (bad too).

It was an opportunistic vote, but Jabbawookie was one of maybe 2 - 3 names that had been circulatd both on here and in my brain as good d1 lynch candidates.

This difference between his opportunity and mine is that at least mine is founded on the perception of suspicion, whereas he just decided, "man this doesn't feel good but ill vote him anyway" Which sounds like a scum voting for a known townie in the middle of the pack and trying to retain a way out.

1 minute ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

I actually think Mando's post is even more a reason to vote for him. He's either truly busy and town (might be useless), or truly busy and scum (misdirect) or not busy at all and scum (bad too).

FWIW - I can't confirm Mando as scum OR town - but I can confirm Mando has been working a ton and has a bachelor party this weekend. So the story is confirmed. Again, does nothing to confirm his role, but at least it's not a lie in the lynch all liars sense.

1 hour ago, The Jabbawookie said:

I actually don’t see an ironclad case against Ovi and am willing to move my vote. But we need a lynch.

##vote ovinomanc3r

17 minutes ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

. . . Wait what? Why  ?   

So Gnips you have to take this all in context. Jabba doesn't post anything for a whole RL day, and what goes down, goes down. Then he posts the above. That is a tell in my book. You may be right. But we need to apply pressure to get info!

Just now, BrobaFett said:

has a bachelor party this weekend

Ha! So then the Moose has already won!

Anyhow, my previous post stands that he can totally be using that as an excuse. (It has happened before).