actually the noncrew side makes sense to be tractorbeam related even if its a bit situational.
Ghost side for sure needs to be something along the lines of GChips.
Phasma
2 hours ago, Commander Kaine said:The flaws of marketing aren't a sufficient reason to not have this character in the game.
Bistan has no role to speak of, and he is a powerful card (and will be in 2.0). Nobody is complaining about him being in the game.
This is the rebel bias of the forums. It's completely fine if the rebels get some inconsequential characters that did nothing in the movies, but every imperial/fo character needs to submit a 3 page document detailing their exploits, otherwise they can't be in this game... because they are badly written villains.
Oh, I'm fine having her in the game. I just wish she did something more interesting in the films....
7 hours ago, HolySorcerer said:Phasma was a non-character. The only reason anybody even knows her name is because she is shiny.
Kinda like boba fett?
4 hours ago, Pewpewpew BOOM said:Now I have Highway to the Danger Zone and Take My Breath Away in my head. THANKS!
Don’t forget “Great Balls of Fire”!
7 hours ago, tortugatron said:Obi-wan isn’t even in the game. Check your privilege.
There’s no room in X-Wing for a someone who can’t even dress properly.
1 minute ago, Sasajak said:There’s no room in X-Wing for a someone who can’t even dress properly.
Desert hobos are not welcome.
Boba is too smart to show his true form to millions of people in a cinema. He jumped into the Sarlaac to throw everyone off his track.
Chroming a Bugatti Veyron doesn't make it cooler. Neither does chroming a Stormtrooper.
I still don't see why Phasma isn't in X Wing though. Zeta Ace made it in after all.
Phasma crew- apply a stress and a focus token to every ship in your squad. Then throw this card down a hole.
39 minutes ago, Cuz05 said:Boba is too smart to show his true form to millions of people in a cinema. He jumped into the Sarlaac to throw everyone off his track.
Chroming a Bugatti Veyron doesn't make it cooler. Neither does chroming a Stormtrooper.
I still don't see why Phasma isn't in X Wing though. Zeta Ace made it in after all.
Phasma crew- apply a stress and a focus token to every ship in your squad. Then throw this card down a hole.
Chroming a Bugatti Veryon makes it way cooler.... same with a storm trooper.
You are wrong, chromed things are cool.
I bet Phasma will likely show up in the conversion set, or in some release associated with Resistance. That show should at least try to make use of her and make her as good as her actress deserves.
10 hours ago, JJ48 said:He was definitely my favorite character from TLJ. Looks like with him the First Order lost their sole semi-competent leader.
A thousands time yes, he was the only character the FO has that seems like he could get a job done.
31 minutes ago, Icelom said:Chroming a Bugatti Veryon makes it way cooler.... same with a storm trooper.
You are wrong, chromed things are cool.
Step 1: Paint interceptor chrome color
Step 2: Dial in speed 5 move
Step 3: ...?
Step 4: Profit!
5 hours ago, Commander Kaine said:Yeah like Boba
Like Boba
Or that
Not in the OT. For all we know the only time obi wan flew in the galactic civil war timeline, is when he took a short trip to Alderaan in the passenger seat.
Phasma being a non character is a non argument. Half of the characters are minor characters with no or minimum speaking roles in the movies.
Especially if some of the "big ones" are also similarly non characters like Boba.
Yeah phasma did nothing useful in the movies. So what?
I never understood the obsession with Fett. He said five words over two films then fell in a pit. He just had a neat costume I guess.
What does Phasma do? She’s shiny and betrays the FO, resulting the destruction of Starkiller Base. As an Imperial I don’t need her incompetence on the table. Also, she’s a ground trooper, what is she going to do for me in a dogfight?
2 minutes ago, HolySorcerer said:I never understood the obsession with Fett. He said five words over two films then fell in a pit. He just had a neat costume I guess.
What does Phasma do? She’s shiny and betrays the FO, resulting the destruction of Starkiller Base. As an Imperial I don’t need her incompetence on the table. Also, she’s a ground trooper, what is she going to do for me in a dogfight?
The argument is that if Fett is in the game, being a badass, despite being quite the opposite, surely Phasma can do the same.
C3PO is annoying, doesn't really help Han with his calculations, better yet he is visibly annoyed by him. 3PO-s ability, despite that, is not "when defending perform a red calculate action". That would be fitting.
Phasma being incompetent (or treasonous) does not mean we have to have her like that. Fett did very little during the OT, but I guess the 2.0 Boba crew makes sense (for the Pilot, but still). However, aside from that, he did nothing. But you never hear people complain about him doing too much (and oh boy, does he do too much in 2.0)
If we are going to bring up auxiliary sources (like novels) Phasma is explained. She is still a traitorous wh*re but at least it is explained.
She isn't very loyal, but again, that's not a reason to not include her. Especially when the faction is lacking in crew upgrades.
Plus she is an officer first, and ground troop second. Plus Deathtroopers are also ground troops, and they are in the game.
11 minutes ago, Commander Kaine said:The argument is that if Fett is in the game, being a badass, despite being quite the opposite, surely Phasma can do the same.
C3PO is annoying, doesn't really help Han with his calculations, better yet he is visibly annoyed by him. 3PO-s ability, despite that, is not "when defending perform a red calculate action". That would be fitting.
Phasma being incompetent (or treasonous) does not mean we have to have her like that. Fett did very little during the OT, but I guess the 2.0 Boba crew makes sense (for the Pilot, but still). However, aside from that, he did nothing. But you never hear people complain about him doing too much (and oh boy, does he do too much in 2.0)
If we are going to bring up auxiliary sources (like novels) Phasma is explained. She is still a traitorous wh*re but at least it is explained.
She isn't very loyal, but again, that's not a reason to not include her. Especially when the faction is lacking in crew upgrades.
Plus she is an officer first, and ground troop second. Plus Deathtroopers are also ground troops, and they are in the game.
More crew would be nice, but why would we want her? Tell you what, as long as she doesn’t come out before a RADAR Technician crew then I won’t complain.
4 minutes ago, HolySorcerer said:More crew would be nice, but why would we want her? Tell you what, as long as she doesn’t come out before a RADAR Technician crew then I won’t complain.
"When a friendly ship at range 0-1 is looking for their muffins, receive a stress token"
Phasma (crew)
At the beginning of each round, you may remind your opponent that you have Phasma. She does nothing else.
Edited by Dr ZoidbergPhasma (Crew) - x Charges
When you become the defender, if there is another friendly ship at Range 1 and inside the enemy's attack arc, you may spend 1 (charge) to declare that ship as the defender.
Phasma (TIE/sf Pilot) - Initiative (whatever)
When you become the defender, if there is another friendly ship at Range 1 and inside the enemy's attack arc, you may declare that ship as the defender.
Here's a serious attempt at Phasma. Everything shown about Phasma shows she's loyal to only herself and will not hesitate to use, betray or kill anyone to ensure her own survival. Her flavor comes off as Scum masquerading as First Order, so I think she would fit best reflecting that. Not sure if the wording is quite right, but I think I got the timing right. After the enemy attacks and pays the cost if applicable, Phasma becomes the defender, and if there's anybody nearby, you can redirect the attack to that poor sap. Basically reverse 1.0 Biggs.
Edited by Enigami8 hours ago, Icelom said:Kinda like boba fett?
Does Phasma have an action figure with a whole urban legend about killing a kid with a spring loaded missile? I think not!
1 minute ago, Pewpewpew BOOM said:Does Phasma have an action figure with a whole urban legend about killing a kid with a spring loaded missile? I think not!
She doesn't have an MC Chris song either.
Phasma sucks.
8 hours ago, Magnus Grendel said:Oh, I'm fine having her in the game. I just wish she did something more interesting in the films....
So, you mean anything then?
15 hours ago, Magnus Grendel said:Agreed. I'm sure there is a definition of what they are. But the point is that it feels like a retroactive explanation; in the middle of a battlefield (which the first order came in shooting and at no point attempted to use riot control tactics that might justify issuing non-lethal weapons) there is one guy, armed differently to everyone else, for no really good reason, because the director wanted a melee armed opponent for Finn to fight with a Saber.
If we saw multiple riot troopers (either a squad or one-per-section), or you saw some on starkiller (where their armament makes more sense for internal security), it feels like it would make more sense,
Yup. But trying to find any logic to the First Orden is quite a challenge.
"You know guys, let's repeat the same mistakes the ol' Empire did... but this time... Let's make everything BIGGER" (and shiny, to go on topic)
9 hours ago, Cuz05 said:I still don't see why Phasma isn't in X Wing though. Zeta Ace made it in after all.
This is my view as well - regardless of whether you find Phasma's character underwhelming, there's no good reason for her not to be in the game.
In X-wing 2nd edition, First Order is calved off from Galactic Empire as it's own faction - consisting of four ships; TIE/fo, TIE/sf, TIE/vn and Υ-class shuttle.
That gives the First Order a grand total of only 13 named pilots in the entire faction, two of whom are Kylo Ren in different ships and six of whom are just squadron designators, not even call-signs. Given that the First Order conversion kit (whenever it gets announced) basically replaces all the cardboard, there is every reason to give the First Order ships a couple of new unique pilots.
The TIE/fo doesn't really need new pilots because it already has 6 - more than you can possibly field in one squad. No-one will complain, but they're not really needed.
Equally, the TIE/vn has two and the Υ-class has three - which is probably enough because any squad featuring more than two of either ship is going to have to use at least two generics, so whilst new pilots are nice, you'll only ever get to use them instead of the existing ones, not alongside them.
The TIE/sf, by comparison, is a T-70 X-wing or B-wing equivalent - you can easily fit four in a squad if you're frugal, and a squad of three is easy to do. Having 3+ named unique pilots therefore gives you a lot of options for your squads, especially on a ship with a lot of customisability. Given that we have two named pilots (Phasma in her chrome /sf fighter and TN-3465) including them would give you more options for a 3-ship special forces squad.
given that you see her in the gunner's seat of TN-3465's fighter, making her a gunner upgrade would work too. After all, Finn did pretty darn well as a TIE/sf gunner on his first try.
Edited by Magnus Grendel19 hours ago, mazz0 said:I think so - didn't he launch them in the end?
It they want the First Order to seem intimidating, I think the first thing we need to see happen in episode IX is for Hux to have Kylo's ship blown up. Kylo can escape, obviously.
The hilarious thing is if they made the First Order use actual tactics and strategy then they would be super intimidating.
Unfortunately they have to fake fear in the Resistance because "hurr durr big guns"
17 hours ago, viedit said:Phasma Crew: 0 Points
When you add Phasma crew to a ship, assign the shiny Phasma condition token to it.
Phasma Condition: This token does absolutely nothing. But hey, it's shiny!
1.0 X-Wing Moff Jerjerrod says "Thank you very much".