1 hour ago, HolySorcerer said:

Phasma was a non-character. The only reason anybody even knows her name is because she is shiny.

Just like Boba Fett... stood around, then died like a chump.

The only things he did right on screen are looking cool, and Following the Falcon.

1 hour ago, JJ48 said:

So does C-3PO. And whether he hates it or not, Obi-wan does do a fair bit of it.

The difference is Threepio is a droid and has to go where his ‘masters’ tell him - basically a slave.

That being said, I think Obi-Wan (as a ghost) would make a good light side upgrade of sorts.

21 minutes ago, Magnus Grendel said:

That's my main problem; she doesn't really do anything. She's more interesting in Phasma the novel, and the deleted scene where she shoots her own men when they find out what happened on starkiller base is good too, but that ended up on the cutting room floor.

I'd really have liked the guy who batters Finn senseless on takodana to have been Phasma. It'd instantly make her a more impressive character (and as an officer justify why random dude is carrying a melee weapon we see no other stormtrooper armed with).

I suddenly wish the Phasma armor was used to signify Employee of the Month. You did the best last month? 1 month of guaranteed living through a blaster fight.

6 minutes ago, That Blasted Samophlange said:

The difference is Threepio is a droid and has to go where his ‘masters’ tell him - basically a slave.

That being said, I think Obi-Wan (as a ghost) would make a good light side upgrade of sorts.

Oh wow, I hadn't thought of (Ghost) Obi-Wan.

Dual card

Side 1: Start the game with this side face up, While defending, you may reroll your defense dice. If you do, flip this card.

Side2: Place 2 Force charges on this card. At the start of the combat phase you may choose 1 friendly ship with Force ability at range 1-2 and assign one force charge from this card to that ship up to its maximum number of force charges.

1 hour ago, Magnus Grendel said:

I'd really have liked the guy who batters Finn senseless on takodana to have been Phasma. It'd instantly make her a more impressive character (and as an officer justify why random dude is carrying a melee weapon we see no other stormtrooper armed with).

In the app "starwars arena" (iirc) they are defined as Riot Troops. They carry melee weapon and a shield. (and they are a very good unit, btw)

Phasma Crew: 0 Points

When you add Phasma crew to a ship, assign the shiny Phasma condition token to it.

Phasma Condition: This token does absolutely nothing. But hey, it's shiny!

17 minutes ago, Malasombra said:

In the app "starwars arena" (iirc) they are defined as Riot Troops. They carry melee weapon and a shield. (and they are a very good unit, btw)

Agreed. I'm sure there is a definition of what they are. But the point is that it feels like a retroactive explanation; in the middle of a battlefield (which the first order came in shooting and at no point attempted to use riot control tactics that might justify issuing non-lethal weapons) there is one guy, armed differently to everyone else, for no really good reason, because the director wanted a melee armed opponent for Finn to fight with a Saber.

If we saw multiple riot troopers (either a squad or one-per-section), or you saw some on starkiller (where their armament makes more sense for internal security), it feels like it would make more sense,

2 hours ago, ViscerothSWG said:

It'd think that if they were a proper space navy they'd always have a few fighters patrolling to protect their carriers and more at the ready in case of engagement. And that was the supreme leader's capital ship. The TIEs pouring out of it should have been Top Gun in space.

Now I have Highway to the Danger Zone and Take My Breath Away in my head. THANKS!

1 hour ago, That Blasted Samophlange said:

Just like Boba Fett... stood around, then died like a chump.

The only things he did right on screen are looking cool, and Following the Falcon.

He did track the Falcon to Bespin though.

1 hour ago, Magnus Grendel said:

That's my main problem; she doesn't really do anything. She's more interesting in Phasma the novel, and the deleted scene where she shoots her own men when they find out what happened on starkiller base is good too, but that ended up on the cutting room floor.

There is a canon comic series where she goes around and kills off anyone that knows what she did on Starkiller Base to cover her tracks, so its still happened in another manner.

4 hours ago, That Blasted Samophlange said:

Just like Boba Fett... stood around, then died like a chump.

The only things he did right on screen are looking cool, and Following the Falcon.

And yet the Boba Fett in the cartoon in the middle of the Holiday Special still managed to somehow be even less effective.

What, exactly, have been Boba's accomplishments?

1. Held off jumping out of the system until he could Bluetooth-sync his phone, and happened to notice the Falcon leaving.

2. Called Darth Vader.

3. Transported cargo to Jabba.

4. Briefly inconvenienced a Jedi, who almost immediately snapped the line.

5. Got knocked into a pit by a blind guy completely on accident.

On the plus side, he does have nice armor, so at least he can look cool while accomplishing so little. In fact, in ANH Special Edition we have him appear for precisely that purpose!

Phasma was a joke.

And when they brought her back, she was still a joke.

19 minutes ago, kris40k said:

There is a canon comic series where she goes around and kills off anyone that knows what she did on Starkiller Base to cover her tracks, so its still happened in another manner.

Interesting.

Nice to see another pilot with a bit of background - TN-3465 .

Who, once again, appears to be a more interesting and likeable character than Phasma herself.

Captain Phasma (Crew)

When you are declared as the target of an attack, you must spend all of your shields.

I thought there was a lot of potential for Phasma, she really could have been the next Boba Fett, but they have squandered her in the movies. Hopefully they do something cool with her in the Resistance series being made other than having her fall down holes.

I hope she survived and makes an impact in EP 9. or yeah, she's worse than Boba as far as trash characters go.

17 minutes ago, kris40k said:

I thought there was a lot of potential for Phasma, she really could have been the next Boba Fett, but they have squandered her in the movies. Hopefully they do something cool with her in the Resistance series being made other than having her fall down holes. 

I hope so too. Part of the problem is that there is an argument that she is the next Boba Fett - she has cool armour but achieves nothing but stand there looking imposing before getting her backside kicked by someone not massively competent and falling down a hole.

The problems to me are:

• We never see her do anything competent . "Standing at the back of the crowd in Mos Eisley" and Holiday Special aside, the first time we see Fett, he is the bounty hunter with sufficient sense to figure out what Solo's done and follow him. That immediately sets him above the generic imperial mooks who don't.
• She was massively pushed as a character in the lead-up to episode 7 both for " look, cool character !" and " look, awesome actress ":
  • Captain Phasma gets about 1.5 minutes of screen time in each film to date. That's pretty much the same as Boba Fett. But it doesn't feel like 'main character'.
  • Whatever justification is given for her caving in on starkiller, it feels retroactively added (which it probably was)
  • We're used to Gwendoline Christie from Brienne of Tarth, who's a much more imposing and effective character.

If we get to see her on screen be (a) a bit more effective and (b) a bit more obviously self-serving in a prequel-to-the-sequel set series, then her behaviour in the force awakens will probably feel more 'right'.

It's like my usual comment about Rogue One - watching it, then A New Hope straight after, makes the older film make more sense for everything from 'planned design flaw' to 'most of our fleet just got wiped out' to 'Vader is so angry he's choking people with his actual hand' .

4 hours ago, ViscerothSWG said:

In each movie she shouted ineffectively then was pushed down a hole. Her armor was much better than most against blasters though. I'd tie her to the outside of my tie fighter for extra armor. Maybe a unique modification card 'Operation Phasma Shield'.

Yeah like Boba

3 hours ago, HolySorcerer said:

Phasma was a non-character. The only reason anybody even knows her name is because she is shiny.

Like Boba

3 hours ago, LordBlades said:

She got more screen time than let's say Bistan

Or that

3 hours ago, JJ48 said:

So does C-3PO. And whether he hates it or not, Obi-wan does do a fair bit of it.

Not in the OT. For all we know the only time obi wan flew in the galactic civil war timeline, is when he took a short trip to Alderaan in the passenger seat.

Phasma being a non character is a non argument. Half of the characters are minor characters with no or minimum speaking roles in the movies.

Especially if some of the "big ones" are also similarly non characters like Boba.

Yeah phasma did nothing useful in the movies. So what?

5 minutes ago, Commander Kaine said:

Yeah phasma did nothing useful in the movies. So what?

I think it's a bit of a reaction to the marketing. Phasma felt a bit shoved down the audience's throat pre-film and post-film and yet underwhelming on screen.

Fett's first 'real' appearance in Empire Strikes Back didn't really have him do much, but what he did (track solo) he did effectively. He comes across as a lot less effective in Jedi, to be fair.

Phasma's first appearance has her - to quote Finn - 'squeal like a whoop hog' and shut down the shields of the base she's supposed to protect.

1 minute ago, Magnus Grendel said:

I think it's a bit of a reaction to the marketing. Phasma felt a bit shoved down the audience's throat pre-film and post-film and yet underwhelming on screen.

Fett's first 'real' appearance in Empire Strikes Back didn't really have him do much, but what he did (track solo) he did effectively. He comes across as a lot less effective in Jedi, to be fair.

Phasma's first appearance has her - to quote Finn - 'squeal like a whoop hog' and shut down the shields of the base she's supposed to protect.

The flaws of marketing aren't a sufficient reason to not have this character in the game.

Bistan has no role to speak of, and he is a powerful card (and will be in 2.0). Nobody is complaining about him being in the game.

This is the rebel bias of the forums. It's completely fine if the rebels get some inconsequential characters that did nothing in the movies, but every imperial/fo character needs to submit a 3 page document detailing their exploits, otherwise they can't be in this game... because they are badly written villains.

Kinda too late in 1e, but I kinda wish she was the Imperial version of Sabine. I'd have her add a bomb slot, and "[once per turn?] before a friendly bomb token is removed, roll a die for each [enemy? any?] ship at Range 1 of the token. On a crit, the ship suffers one damage." So Sabine would be a guarantee, but caps at 1. Under ideal conditions, Cad Bane can add up to three damage to a Proximity Mine. Phasma would have higher potential damage, but be less likely to do damage.

In 2e, I'm not sure what'd be right. Perhaps she'd be some sort of Gunner rather than crew, but I don't really know what I'd design for her. Why gunner? Because specifically she never shoots.

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I'll also agree with the OP: Phasma is Boba Fett. Looks cool. Is Useless. Is still awesome.

Boba Fett got in a gunfight with Luke on Bespin.......

I'd have to agree Boba is definitely better than Phasma.

Boba may not have done jack in the original movies but he still did something - Phasma literally just looked cool and talked smack. Boba had less lines than she did and still spoke bigger words.
That being said, not a boba fan either.

Literally everything they did with Phasma in the movies bugged the **** out of me. I legitmatly said "Are you f***ing kidding me theyre doing this scene?!" when they had her drop the shield at gunpoint. Shes a devout follower of the First Order, she should have ZERO qualms with forfeiting her life for the Order and putting the Resistance's plans to ruin. I hate that kind of movie plot so bad, "Do it or you die" cool kill me then because once i do it im dead anyway so FU.

And i agree, it should have been her instead of the random trooper with the riot baton fighting Finn in TFA. Not only would it have been more fitting, and more personal, but it would have also excused her from being on Starkiller so you wouldnt need some BS reason why she isnt dead

3 hours ago, That Blasted Samophlange said:

The difference is Threepio is a droid and has to go where his ‘masters’ tell him - basically a slave.

That being said, I think Obi-Wan (as a ghost) would make a good light side upgrade of sorts.

Dual card, like L337.

2 minutes ago, Punning Pundit said:

Dual card, like L337.

CREW: Tractor beam tokens are removed at the end of the round. Flip this card when at least one tractor beam token is removed.

GHOST: Add one force token per round. You may keep up to one more than allowed on your card.

This is actually more of a joke than a real effort at creating Obi's dual-side card.