14 minutes ago, Ixidor said:Token stacking in almost all regards seems to be either less valuable or less possible in second edition, and that's a good thing.
Yeah, but a friend of mine plays Rebels all of the time and I REALLY want to take his 2.0 Luke down to zero defense dice just to see the look on his face!
Is anyone else a little disappointed that when they had the chance to add new shapes of obstacles, they wimped out and reused ones from past core sets/expansions that introduced debris?
8 hours ago, eMeM said:This is a common misconception, English, in fact, doesn't have any spelling rules. It is a logographic system, like Chinese and Japanese, but more messy and not nearly as aesthetic , and to make things worse not only the English letters decievfuly resmble words written in alphabetic languages (with which it has nothing in common), even within this writing system very similar characters often sound completely different, off the top of my head: compare the letter"query" and the letter "queue"... and vice versa with "right" and "write".
As a child I was led to believe that English is an easy language to learn, but the more I learned the more obvious it became that I have been bamboozled. How is Chinese hard with just a few thousand characters when English has 250 000?
Debatable. English is a beautiful language in my opinion. It's quirky. It's the manic pixie dreamgirl of languages. BAE.
2 hours ago, HolySorcerer said:He’s just an R2 unit with a bit of experience. What did you want him to do? Non-R2 stuff?
I actually wouldn't mind if he could do a bit more. Like the current r2-d2, but with 1 extra functionality. He easily saved most main characters in the movies, he should be as powerful as any of the "Great ones" like Luke, Vader, C3-PO, and therefore more unique. Obviously, the it would be costed accordingly.
Sth like:
After you reveal your dial, you may spend 1 (charge) to recover 1 shield and gain 1 disarm token.
You may spend 1 (charge) to decrease the difficulty of a maneuver.
[3 charges]
It wouldn't be broken, but it would make it a more interesting card. If R2 normally costs 10 points, we could go for 12 for this.
44 minutes ago, KiraYamatoSF said:Dear lord those wings seem to open and close so smooth than Saw's. Also, why isn't Red 5 shown more up close! The humanity man!
Empire bias man, Empire bias.
37 minutes ago, HolySorcerer said:It’s not our fault all your ships are so ugly.
6 hours ago, period3 said:Well there's learning to read/write a language, and there's learning to speak it. I'm a uni-lingual english speaker, so I'm not objective on this, but the languages commonly spoken in China seem very hard to speak, with intonation completely changing the meaning of words.
The tones make a difference, but you can often tell what was meant by the context of the sentence. It's not all that different from the way we use emphasis in English. One time somebody asked me where the ba-THROOM was. It took me a minute to realize he was asking where the BATH-room was. Except there are more words in Chinese that are identical except for the intonation, which can be confusing without enough context. I'm not even sure there are any words in English that are identical except for the emphasis.
2 hours ago, drail14me said:I’m dissapointed as well. R2D2 is special. He saves the day. I thought he was fine in 1.0 and wouldn’t mind him being unlimited in 2.0, but costed appropriately.
29 points?
52 minutes ago, Parakitor said:The tones make a difference, but you can often tell what was meant by the context of the sentence. It's not all that different from the way we use emphasis in English. One time somebody asked me where the ba-THROOM was. It took me a minute to realize he was asking where the BATH-room was. Except there are more words in Chinese that are identical except for the intonation, which can be confusing without enough context. I'm not even sure there are any words in English that are identical except for the emphasis.
I am not a speaker myself but I believe in Mandarin the words for horse, scold, and mother are all “Mah” with different tones.
Tone in English influences the message conveyed (sarcsm, etc.), but I can’t think of any examples of it changing the word from one concept to another. In the example above, I think a Mandarin speak would consider each “Mah” a distinct and different word. English has homophones like “cool” (the action of losing heat) and “cool” (like the cool kids) but that is different; a Mandarin speaker does not need to determine the definitions through context because tone conveys which “mah” is being used.
2 hours ago, HolySorcerer said:It’s not our fault all your ships are so ugly.
Rebel ships are not ugly they just have... character and... scars. None of them are ugly.
*Hides M-Wing and H-Wing from view*
Yep, none of them are ugly.
1 minute ago, KiraYamatoSF said:Rebel ships are not ugly they just have... character and... scars. None of them are ugly.
*Hides M-Wing and H-Wing from view*
Yep, none of them are ugly.
The E-Wing thread on the front page says hi.
3 minutes ago, KiraYamatoSF said:Rebel ships are not ugly they just have... character and... scars. None of them are ugly.
*Hides M-Wing and H-Wing from view*
Yep, none of them are ugly.
A-wings are pretty.
The YT-2400 is pretty.
The ARC-170 is beautiful. (Has a stupid droid on it, but nothing a modelling knife can't handle)
An argument can be made for the B-Wing.
But that's it really.
Plus their pilots don't get slick black uniforms. Boo.
8 minutes ago, HolySorcerer said:The E-Wing thread on the front page says hi.
*Opens and closes mouth a few times*
...No comment.
40 minutes ago, Pewpewpew BOOM said:29 points?
That seems high. It would be like R2D2 being 14.5 points in 1.0. Maybe 20 points.
2 hours ago, KiraYamatoSF said:Dear lord those wings seem to open and close so smooth than Saw's. Also, why isn't Red 5 shown more up close! The humanity man!
Empire bias man, Empire bias.
Because the person in the video was busy using the wrong terminology?
2 minutes ago, drail14me said:That seems high. It would be like R2D2 being 14.5 points in 1.0. Maybe 20 points.
Still allows for actionless, infinite kiting.
11 hours ago, Cartchan said:Here are captures of the Quickstart guide and rule book for people at work:
Maybe I totally missed the boat on earlier 2E spoilers (and granted, I've been out of the loop on the last couple of waves of expansions).
But I'm VERY intrigued by the Reverse Straight and Reverse Bank rules text under Other Maneuvers. Maybe we'll see something with the ability to reverse thrusters on a dime at the cost of stress? Or ordnance so strong the inertia knocks the ship back?
Edit: Never mind me, that's a Quadjumper thing. Moving along now.
Edited by ManWearingHat3 minutes ago, ManWearingHat said:
Maybe I totally missed the boat on earlier 2E spoilers (and granted, I've been out of the loop on the last couple of waves of expansions).
But I'm VERY intrigued by the Reverse Straight and Reverse Bank rules text under Other Maneuvers. Maybe we'll see something with the ability to reverse thrusters on a dime at the cost of stress? Or ordnance so strong the inertia knocks the ship back?Edit: Never mind me, that's a Quadjumper thing. Moving along now.
and a sheathipede shuttle thing
5 hours ago, HolySorcerer said:He’s just an R2 unit with a bit of experience. What did you want him to do? Non-R2 stuff?
Has R2D2 not been with us since some of the most early scenes in the Phantom Menance? Where he survices the blockade and repaired the ship - he is a hero!
I could see him with perhaps 4 charges and not the weapons-disabled token.
@HolySorcerer it is all about gameplay vareity to make the game interesting and fun!
Edited by RedHotDice13 minutes ago, RedHotDice said:Has R2D2 not been with us since some of the most early scenes in the Phantom Menance? Where he survices the blockade and repaired the ship - he is a hero!
I could see him with perhaps 4 charges and not the weapons-disabled token.
@HolySorcerer it is all about gameplay vareity to make the game interesting and fun!
In 1.0 he became the easy button villain of Rebel regen NPEs.
I'll see your core set and raise you another core set.
1 hour ago, Crabbok said:I'll see your core set and raise you another core set.
That’s just not cool.
Edited by Samwise Gamgee15 hours ago, eMeM said:This is a common misconception, English, in fact, doesn't have any spelling rules. It is a logographic system, like Chinese and Japanese, but more messy and not nearly as aesthetic, and to make things worse not only the English letters decievfuly resmble words written in alphabetic languages (with which it has nothing in common), even within this writing system very similar characters often sound completely different, off the top of my head: compare the letter"query" and the letter "queue"... and vice versa with "right" and "write".
As a child I was led to believe that English is an easy language to learn, but the more I learned the more obvious it became that I have been bamboozled. How is Chinese hard with just a few thousand characters when English has 250 000?
As someone who has learnt Mandarin, the difficulty comes from the fact that the characters represent concepts and are combined in order to form words. As an example: 电 (dian) is electricity, 视 (shi) is 'to look at/ to regard as'. Combined, they form the word 'television'.
Furthermore, while there are only x number of thousands of characters, there are about 400 syllables in standard Mandarin. The 6000 most common characters account for 372 different syllables. The best example of this is the Stone Lion poem, which consists entirely of the sound 'shi' (pronounced "shur").
https://www.yellowbridge.com/onlinelit/stonelion.php
Furthermore, for the majority of the characters you just have to remember what their sound is. Some elements of some characters provide some insight into how they're likely to be pronounced; but for the most part its pure memory. No spelling out of words like in English etc.
Edited by Dr Zoidberg4 hours ago, Commander Kaine said:Still allows for actionless, infinite kiting.
I don’t have a problem with this on the casual scene. Maybe costed a few point more points so he’s costly on the competitive scene.
The charge deal in 2.0 is a good idea though. I just wish he had 4 charges. One extra just doesn’t seem special enough for R2D2. Especially when R5P9 also has 3 charges.
However, the conversation is moot as FFG has already made their decision.
1 hour ago, drail14me said:I don’t have a problem with this on the casual scene. Maybe costed a few point more points so he’s costly on the competitive scene.
The charge deal in 2.0 is a good idea though. I just wish he had 4 charges. One extra just doesn’t seem special enough for R2D2. Especially when R5P9 also has 3 charges.
However, the conversation is moot as FFG has already made their decision.
I agree. But infinite is a bit too much.
I’ve always felt that R2-D2 has skewed the perception of the value of shields. I always thought the shield and hull upgrade cards were fairish baselines for what the designers deemed to be the worth of each type of extra hit point. I say “fairish” because of the variance of the value of an extra hit point for any given ship.
However, when you compare a shield upgrade card and R2-D2 from 1.0 (same cost of 4), this throws that baseline out the window. And thus the deservedly harsh regen nerf.
This all to say, I think 3 charges vs 2 charges is a significant difference in a balanced game that correctly values regen. In that case, R2-D2 would remain an “elite” or “special” astromech.
6 minutes ago, Samwise Gamgee said:I’ve always felt that R2-D2 has skewed the perception of the value of shields. I always thought the shield and hull upgrade cards were fairish baselines for what the designers deemed to be the worth of each type of extra hit point. I say “fairish” because of the variance of the value of an extra hit point for any given ship.
However, when you compare a shield upgrade card and R2-D2 from 1.0 (same cost of 4), this throws that baseline out the window. And thus the deservedly harsh regen nerf.
This all to say, I think 3 charges vs 2 charges is a significant difference in a balanced game that correctly values regen. In that case, R2-D2 would remain an “elite” or “special” astromech.
Hull and Shield Upgrade were always overcosted in 1.0 so they weren't autoincludes.
5 hours ago, Crabbok said:I'll see your core set and raise you another core set.
Open 'em up so we can see the rulebook.
