Rex and Shortcut?

By tsuruki, in Arkham Horror: The Card Game

Just a rather simple but important rules question.

What happens if you play Shortcut in the player windows between starting a skill test (Investigate) and before revealing the token? More importantly, if I start investigating one spot, and shortcut to another, where do the clues come from? What's the difficulty of the test?

For example:

- Can I start investigating a low difficulty location, and scootch over to a high difficulty one with the lower difficulty test and get the clues there?

And/Or

-Can I use this to "split" a test and get a clue from two locations at once?

Or

-Do I get all the clues at the original location?

The clarification is here:

https://arkhamdb.com/card/02022

As for Rex, what does his card say exactly?

To give an explicit answer, since I was originally playing this wrong: when you declare that you are taking the Investigate action your current location is "locked" as the target for the skill test. This means that you will use the original location's shroud value as the difficulty and if you succeed will take a clue from the location you were at before you played Shortcut.

When you use Shortcut to move location during the skill test and succeed by two or more, Rex's reaction can be used. This happens after you succeed at the skill test and therefore after you have moved. The ability states "at your location", meaning your current location, i.e. at the new location that you moved to by playing Shortcut.

Note that if you were to commit Deduction to the skill test, its text refers to "at that location", meaning the location you are investigating. This is the target of the skill test and therefore the original location, so the additional clues from Deduction would come from the location you were at before you played Shortcut.

Hope that helps!

5 minutes ago, Assussanni said:

To give an explicit answer, since I was originally playing this wrong: when you declare that you are taking the Investigate action your current location is "locked" as the target for the skill test. This means that you will use the original location's shroud value as the difficulty and if you succeed will take a clue from the location you were at before you played Shortcut.

When you use Shortcut to move location during the skill test and succeed by two or more, Rex's reaction can be used. This happens after you succeed at the skill test and therefore after you have moved. The ability states "at your location", meaning your current location, i.e. at the new location that you moved to by playing Shortcut.

Note that if you were to commit Deduction to the skill test, its text refers to "at that location", meaning the location you are investigating. This is the target of the skill test and therefore the original location, so the additional clues from Deduction would come from the location you were at before you played Shortcut.

Hope that helps!

Yes, that helps!

2 hours ago, Assussanni said:

Note that if you were to commit Deduction to the skill test, its text refers to "at that location", meaning the location you are investigating. This is the target of the skill test and therefore the original location, so the additional clues from Deduction would come from the location you were at before you played Shortcut.

Note also that if you were using the Ancient Stone (Unidentified), which says "discover 1 additional clue at your location," you wouldn't discover a clue from either location. "Your" location is the new location, and you can't discover an "additional" clue if you're not discovering any clues there in the first place.

On 6/21/2018 at 10:19 PM, rsdockery said:

Note also that if you were using the Ancient Stone (Unidentified), which says "discover 1 additional clue at your location," you wouldn't discover a clue from either location. "Your" location is the new location, and you can't discover an "additional" clue if you're not discovering any clues there in the first place.

But isn't Rex discovering a clue at the new location if his ability kicks in?

Can you use pathfinder in the middle of a test like you can with shortcut?

2 hours ago, Donel said:

Can you use pathfinder in the middle of a test like you can with shortcut?

Yes, assuming all other requirements are met. There is a player window before you commit any cards and a second one after you commit all cards but before drawing the token.

On 8/21/2018 at 9:13 AM, Louie Cypher said:

But isn't Rex discovering a clue at the new location if his ability kicks in?

Yes, but only after the test resolves. It's not a part of the test's resolution, so it's too late for Ancient Stones.